Is it really? Really... REALLY?
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Andrealphus
Andrealphus
Blitzø
Octavia
Does it really? Rosie is implied not to be a sinner, the fact she can contact the living world, gave power to a sinner that made him topple over centuries-dominating overlords, with him being labelled as the "strongest sinner" so I don't see why him being the outlier here would be a problem.
Charlie can't wat
Glad I'm not the only one who immediately noticed that, if we get the source on this that'll bring not only a crazy resistance to Charlie but might actually lead to some layered immortality stuff
Sure, but that also means Rosie, who is considered an overlord is stronger than Stolas.
More like powerless against the sins and a hundred other Goetic demons.
I mean I would argue the sinsmas lines are more about losing to a race that is not even treated humanly as "looking bad" rather than weaker.
However, Rosie is also considered to be an overlord based on the fact she attended Carmilla's meeting. And Rosie > Alastor so, Rosie(Overlord) > Stolas(Goetia).
Because Adam is still a human, even if he has the rank of a Archangel
“Still a human”
No, she is not even the strongest Sinner. Hierarchy is a bum.
Does she even count as a sinner? She didn't die and go to hell like a normal sinner, she was banished.
She is a Sinner, Vox confirms that in Season 2.
Charlie is cooking
We still don't know what Lilith is exactly, for all we know Vox could've been lying, which he is known for.
If you looked at the actual fight, you'd realize they didn't do a single bit of damage against him, except Loona, and they would've all been killed if it wasn't for Octavia intervening.
Purely from being a better combatant.
I don't see how that implies superiority, all he did was push her out, same Blitzo was scared from Loopty Goopty.
She's an Overlord because that's realistically the highest rank she could have, we don't know what she is, but she's clearly not a sinner, and you can't put her in other parts of the hierarchy as anything above Overlord is literally just races.
Uh no? I don't recall him almost "killing her" just beating her because he's purely better at fighting, as Charlie has never properly fought anyone, doesn't mean he's actually stronger than her.
He got the other two correct. He was pretty genuine to Charlie in that scene. We has no real reason to lie.
See the bolded part.
but we also known that it is unlikely for her to be weaker than her if she is still the queen, the only reason WHY is Vox is even the king, is not because he is stronger than Luci, is because Luci can't do jack shit to sinners
He does have a real reason to lie? All of Hell seeing him as the strongest sinner is a pretty big deal for him leading them to a big war against Heaven, especially when he lied before about being the strongest sinner.
You do realize Stolas is still accepted to scale higher via magic right? There's a reason the hierarchy part is still accepted in his profile, not to mention the difference between him and Andrealphus is stupid anyways, Andrealphus casually got put down by a weakened Stolas, while a full-powered one was thought to be invincible, casually broke down a wall, one-shot a hellborn, and was ultimately not scared of any of his assassination or kidnapping attempts.
Except here we see Alastor’s deal break, so he actually means being the strongest Sinner.
At possibly.
No, it is primarily Alastor vs. Stolas statement carrying that bum ahh.
Why is this not considered Appeal to Author?
Read what I said again, I'm not talking about whether or not Vox actually became the strongest sinner, I'm talking about whether or not Lilith is a sinner.
Ok? Doesn't change much of my point.
It's not like he's immortal or something.
Being immortal and invulnerable are not the same thing, and this just further proves my point, Hellhounds and Imps are comparable, yet a Hellhound casually damaged Andrealphus while a powered Stolas wasn't scared of a couple of Imps trying to assassinate and kidnap him.
Aren't they tho? Said imp assassins can shoot, stab, do whatever to Stolas and he'd be good as new the next second. Nothing they could've ever done would stick. Same with Andrealphus, Loona might have ripped his throat but literally the next scene he was back to normal, I.M.P. couldn't actual do jackshit to him, cause he's immortal.
It clearly hurts him, why would he willingly let them do that? Unless for the fact he knew Blitzo would save him and that he could one-shot any imp in his way.
And it does not make sense for Vox to lie that Lilith is a Sinner since he never lied once in that scene.
That stuff is just supportive, it wouldn’t be valid without main evidence.
What kind of logic is that???
Oh so the fact Vivziepop talks about how characters like Charlie and Alastor use magic because their power level exceeds the rest while Stolas is also capable of using it doesn't mean much? The fact that Vivziepop has consistently talkd about or showed via the show that the hierarchy is related to power? (I literally sent multiple statements if you scroll up.)
The first clip is literally while Stolas' power is nullified, why are you even using that??? (Also when Striker leaves he's literally crying)
You heard what he said, right? Stolas gets turned on from being stabbed and having bear traps clamp on him?
Pretty solid about the fact that you have no ground to assume he is telling untruth.
Sure, can be above average Sinner via magic, but all Overlords have magic too, thus this is not a definitive proof.
He's literally provoking him, are you trying to imply Blitzo has something sharper than a holy knife?
Has literally 0 anti-feats, all he does is call some human strong, while literally following him in whatever impersonating that Blitzo is doing.
Guy who's known for lying has no ground to assume he's lying because he doesn't lie in one scene??? Also he literally IS LYING, asking Charlie to call him the strongest sinner when he wasn't even that at that point, it wasn't till she said it that he became the strongest sinner, so yes, he did lie.
Literally ignored the whole mentions of the hierarchy...
Bear traps are more physically damaging than bullets for example, that hurt sinners and imps for example, the fact Stolas is casual about it is just better for him.
Clear gags, Blitzo was getting beat up in the same scene by humans.
The gag being... That Stolas is weak?
