BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Crobatman44]

The lack of self awareness is odd, the other two verses get downgrades on a seasonal basis, OP lost almost all their high 6a calcs and later on their tier 5 stuff too, KT ended up doing this shit because of how much One Piece got attacked, Damage deadass hops from one piece to naruto to one piece to naruto in his downgrade sprees but hasn't made a thread for bleach in years, there was a time when we had our ETSO calc bombarded with multiple downgrade threads at the same time, not to mention the people constantly making threads trying to kick one piece out of baseline ftl

How you even manage to convince yourself you're a victim when bleach got away with so much more and was untouched for years is beyond me man

We Traded mostly good fortune on AP for the world's crustiest speed and Lifting strength ratings.(which is still mostly our fault for postponing any updates on those until cour 4,even simple things like making the values match)
But yeah Bleach has had a fairly good and importantly stable time ever since getting out of the dark ages of like,tier 6 Yhwach iirc.

 

[KingogKings777]

Why is it always people trying to downgrade bleach? I feel like it gets attacked more then any other verse in the big 3

Hey at least we not boruto verse

 

[SilentBob34]

The lack of self awareness is odd, the other two verses get downgrades on a seasonal basis, OP lost almost all their high 6a calcs and later on their tier 5 stuff too, KT ended up doing this shit because of how much One Piece got attacked, Damage deadass hops from one piece to naruto to one piece to naruto in his downgrade sprees but hasn't made a thread for bleach in years, there was a time when we had our ETSO calc bombarded with multiple downgrade threads at the same time, not to mention the people constantly making threads trying to kick one piece out of baseline ftl

How you even manage to convince yourself you're a victim when bleach got away with so much more and was untouched for years is beyond me man

This is how I can tell you’re a baby on this site lol. Go back to like 2018 when the bleach god tiers were continental and the accepted speed for SS to the royal realm was Ichigo falling through the air for a week

All of it because there was a lot of knowledgeable members were banned or ignored and the people that didn’t agree with bleach being as strong as it was took the reign. Honestly it was a very toxic time in this site. One I’m glad to have noticed we’ve mostly grown past

 

[SilentBob34]

All you have to do is read the Calc Stacking page properly and abide by it's rules, that's it

It's not a mess, the responses have been straightforward idk how you view it as that

Holy shit, you really don’t know what calc stacking is lol. Im sorry, but you’re kind of an a**shole for trying to take advantage of some that’s naive and doesn’t know what calc stacking is

 

[KingTempest]

This is how I can tell you’re a baby on this site lol. Go back to like 2018 when the bleach god tiers were continental and the accepted speed for SS to the royal realm was Ichigo falling through the air for a week

All of it because there was a lot of knowledgeable members were banned or ignored and the people that didn’t agree with bleach being as strong as it was took the reign. Honestly it was a very toxic time in this site. One I’m glad to have noticed we’ve mostly grown past

Imagine someone talking about current scrutiny and your example is 2018 before almost every active member in this thread joined the wiki

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

This is how I can tell you’re a baby on this site lol. Go back to like 2018 when the bleach god tiers were continental and the accepted speed for SS to the royal realm was Ichigo falling through the air for a week

I know about that, clearly the topic is about pushbacks and downgrade hits in the current era

The things people used to belt bleach for in 2016 aren’t things they’re gonna use in the modern days, when’s the last time someone tried to change the three worlds into being planets? They’re outdated examples that will no longer hit bleach, Naruto and one piece will still be looked at with a magnifying glass for years to come

Holy shit, you really don’t know what calc stacking is lol. Im sorry, but you’re kind of an a**shole for trying to take advantage of some that’s naive and doesn’t know what calc stacking is

lol what

All I did was reply to him with a link to the calc stacking page, every response I’ve given with regards to calc stacking is me citing rules from that page, saying this or that breaks established policies

Unless you think the calc stacking page doesn’t know what calc stacking entails this crash out of yours makes no sense

 

[HelloThere1089]

RVR his ass

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

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Kakashi got competition

Holy shit, you really don’t know what calc stacking is lol. Im sorry, but you’re kind of an a**shole for trying to take advantage of some that’s naive and doesn’t know what calc stacking is

Telling folks to read the official standard on calc stacking and deciding for themselves if the example they have presented coincides with what the page talks about isn’t “taking advantage” of others.

 

[Ralp0054]

Guys how many days does the evaluation phase typically take? Also, do we have any measurements or information about the cities in the Soul King's palace?

 

[SilentBob34]

Imagine someone talking about current scrutiny and your example is 2018 before almost every active member in this thread joined the wiki

What does that have to do with anything I’ve I’ve said other than you being an A**hole? The fact there’s new people promoting things that you weren’t around there for gives you little credence lol

 

[SilentBob34]

Kakashi got competition

Telling folks to read the official standard on calc stacking and deciding for themselves if the example they have presented coincides with what the page talks about isn’t “taking advantage” of others.

I know about that, clearly the topic is about pushbacks and downgrade hits in the current era

The things people used to belt bleach for in 2016 aren’t things they’re gonna use in the modern days, when’s the last time someone tried to change the three worlds into being planets? They’re outdated examples that will no longer hit bleach, Naruto and one piece will still be looked at with a magnifying glass for years to come

lol what

All I did was reply to him with a link to the calc stacking page, every response I’ve given with regards to calc stacking is me citing rules from that page, saying this or that breaks established policies

Unless you think the calc stacking page doesn’t know what calc stacking entails this crash out of yours makes no sense

You say calc stacking, yet Fail to give an example. A calc calc stacking example would be using Ichigo’s accepted calc of him dodging Gin’s Buto. Then applying that to the calc of the distance using Ichigo’s speed for that calc.

Tell me again, how a statement of Grimmjow having the speed of Candice’s cloud to ground lightning speed suddenly involves using multiple calculations?

 

[SilentBob34]

@KingTempest
I’m sorry man, you were one of the people I always saw treat Bleach fairly, but you kinda fall into into the brain rot of random new users thinking they know everything

 

[KingTempest]

It’s 5:43 am EST bro

 

[Ralp0054]

@Arc7Kuroi

Of course, he will come when we least expect it and everything will be under control.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

RVR his ass

No need, we settle this here and now

Holy shit, you really don’t know what calc stacking is lol. Im sorry, but you’re kind of an a**shole for trying to take advantage of some that’s naive and doesn’t know what calc stacking is

What does that have to do with anything I’ve I’ve said other than you being an A**hole? The fact there’s new people promoting things that you weren’t around there for gives you little credence lol

@KingTempest
I’m sorry man, you were one of the people I always saw treat Bleach fairly, but you kinda fall into into the brain rot of random new users thinking they know everything

My guy, these are extreme overreactions to the comments you're responding to. Tone it down.

 

[Robo432343]

dude now i understand why arc left
oh my glorious king

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

What does that have to do with anything I’ve I’ve said other than you being an A**hole? The fact there’s new people promoting things that you weren’t around there for gives you little credence lol

This type of obnoxious behavior is what makes staff evade the HST because why are you calling people a-holes over the most mild responses? Get off your high horse this isn’t the way you behave with people on this site

You say calc stacking, yet Fail to give an example

I cited and linked the rules every single time I spoke about its narrowed down problems, did you skip all that and only focus on the buzzword?

 

[Ralp0054]

Joking aside, the information gathered, the calculations made, the blogs created, and the discussions held here require considerable effort. I understood this after looking at the situation from a slightly more insider's perspective. It's not what it seems from the outside.

 

[PizzaDante67]

@Arc7Kuroi

I miss my goat

Anyway, why dont we all just take a chill pill and have a good time together? Toxicity won‘t help us get anything accepted and will only give us more enemies.

 

[Ralp0054]

I miss my goat

Anyway, why dont we all just take a chill pill and have a good time together? Toxicity won‘t help us get anything accepted and will only give us more enemies.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Guys how many days does the evaluation phase typically take?

Evaluation lengths here are kind RNG.
For CRTs you can get stuff evaluated in the first hour and it can take weeks.
For calcs same things but the upper limit is hilariously high (had some calcs evaluated in hours and some in about 3 months).

 

[AppleLord]

Based on what i remember the kanji used for the almighty is allmighty and all-knowing. So it's just saying SK yhwach has surpassed The almighty(base yhwach).

I asked AI, it told me is not referring to the Almighty in the context of the Kanji words in this case but the actual conceptual meanings of omniscient and omnipotence. But I don’t know Japanese so…

 

[Ralp0054]

Evaluation lengths here are kind RNG.
For CRTs you can get stuff evaluated in the first hour and it can take weeks.
For calcs same things but the upper limit is hilariously high (had some calcs evaluated in hours and some in about 3 months).

The calculation I have is already giving tiers to almost the entire verse, and i just added an element, a part, to it significantly changes the result (Whether it will be accepted or not is another matter, of course.), but I'm waiting for an evaluate without initializing a CRT. Am I doing something wrong?

 

[DavidTPPM]

The calculation I have is already giving tiers to almost the entire verse, and i just added an element, a part, to it significantly changes the result (Whether it will be accepted or not is another matter, of course.), but I'm waiting for an evaluate without initializing a CRT. Am I doing something wrong?

Have you submitted it in the calculation evaluation thread? If not do so.

Afterwards you wait until a calculation group member evaluates it and after (if) it's approved you can make a CRT that proposes it to be used

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

if it takes too long you can always request individual CGMs on their walls to try for a better rate of eval

 

[Ralp0054]

Thanks for your answers.

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Fairy Tail's latest passed CRT took around 6 months to get accepted and around 5 to 5.5 of those months were just the OP bumping, CRTs can take a long time.

 

[Specterxxxx]

I stay off vsbattle for a couple days and come back to 3 pages of sh*tstorm. Peak general discussion thread as always.

 

[DragoZeroNova]

You should see the JJK discussion thread, each page is usually filled in half an hour.

 

[Mommyleona]

I stay off vsbattle for a couple days and come back to 3 pages of sh*tstorm. Peak general discussion thread as always.

rookie numbers

 

[Ralp0054]

rookie numbers

Sometimes, the jjk page gets discussed for 10 pages in half an hour, of course.

 

[Ralp0054]

Let's discuss guys. Our page's performance needs to improve!

Are you aware that we have Ftl Bleach thanks to Shunsui? It seems no one has tried to measure it yet; I wanted to, but it looks like we need the size of the cities belonging to the Soul King's palace.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Fairy Tail's latest passed CRT took around 6 months to get accepted and around 5 to 5.5 of those months were just the OP bumping, CRTs can take a long time.

MinatoSparkle had a Minato CRT that took a year to be accepted...

 

[Mommyleona]

MinatoSparkle had a Minato CRT that took a year to be accepted...

there's currently a detroit crt going for over 1.5 years and still no mod votes

 

[Specterxxxx]

Now in regards, to the seretei to royal palace distance calc and for the most part your complaints are valid, i only wish ghost said this a lot sooner when I literally asked for everyone's input and thoughts. But thanks for the info, I didn't know statements are still a form of calc stack till now.

Now moving on, the royal palace distance calc is very very important for a lot of feats in the series, and is not even just speed related. We already have another potential FTL feat that isn't dependent on that calc but I am yet to calc that one yet. So I have question regarding a new way I thought to calc the distance. Now Ichigo’s travelling speed is enough to perception blitz candice and co from a couple blocks after immediately landing from the journey so this instance isn't in a different event, it is not like this part happens later, it happens immediately when he lands. Now would using the calc value gained from calculating this blitzing feat to determine the length of the journey be considered calc staking since they are all taking place within same event. If so why?

 

[Ralp0054]

Now in regards, to the seretei to royal palace distance calc and for the most part your complaints are valid, i only wish ghost said this a lot sooner when I literally asked for everyone's input and thoughts. But thanks for the info, I didn't know statements are still a form of calc stack till now.

Now moving on, the royal palace distance calc is very very important for a lot of feats in the series, and is not even just speed related. We already have another potential FTL feat that isn't dependent on that calc but I am yet to calc that one yet. So I have question regarding a new way I thought to calc the distance. Now Ichigo’s travelling speed is enough to perception blitz candice and co from a couple blocks after immediately landing from the journey so this instance isn't in a different event, it is not like this part happens later, it happens immediately when he lands. Now would using the calc value gained from calculating this blitzing feat to determine the length of the journey be considered calc staking since they are all taking place within same event. If so why?

I checked to see if we had any tangible calculations, but almost all of them are 3-5 years old. I was actually going to suggest use a calculation for the speed at which Ichigo hit the Seireitei. There's a calculation for where Candice and the others couldn't react to Ichigo, but that seems outdated too.

Seireitei Calc Updates

vsbattles.fandom.com

Candice? Candice di-

vsbattles.fandom.com

Gremmy's Meteor AP and New Seireitei Size (Using Only Statements)

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Specterxxxx]

I checked to see if we had any tangible calculations, but almost all of them are 3-5 years old. I was actually going to suggest use a calculation for the speed at which Ichigo hit the Seireitei. There's a calculation for where Candice and the others couldn't react to Ichigo, but that seems outdated too.

Seireitei Calc Updates

vsbattles.fandom.com

Candice? Candice di-

vsbattles.fandom.com

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ew_Seireitei_Size_(Using_Only_Statements)[/UR

Ichigo was slowing down, that wasn't his top speed. His traveling speed perception blitzing candice was so I am inclined to go that route, provided it's not calc staking but i don't think it was since its in the same scene literally the first thing he does as he lands. But I want to hear others opinion before I begin.

 

[Mommyleona]

Now would using the calc value gained from calculating this blitzing feat to determine the length of the journey be considered calc staking since they are all taking place within same event

still calc stacking

If so why?

just because it happens right after Ichigo lands does not mean it's "the same feat"
and using a result of a calc in another calc is obviously calc stacking

 

[Ralp0054]

So Mommy, you're saying we can't use a result we got from another scene, right?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

So Mommy

Freaky ahh username