Prime Soul King Abilities Removal

[Purgy]

The Soul King currently has Gremmy Thoumeaux's ability because it was agreed that Gremmy is the Soul King's brain and therefore the Soul King should have his ability. However, this reasoning assumes that Gremmy already possessed that ability while part of the Soul King, which turns out to be untrue. Gremmy's ability was something granted to him by Yhwach, so I don't see any reason why the Soul King should have it.

He was a Quincy whose body was a single brain floating in a container and who, through the V Schrift—The Visionary—that Yhwach had bestowed upon him, had created his flesh body by "imagining" it.

These are the abilities that I'm proposing should be removed from the Soul King's Prime tab:

• The Visionary:
  • Subjective Reality (Can turn his fantasy into reality)
  • Nonexistence Erasure (Nature Types 1 & 3, Aspect Types 1 & 3; Soul King can and people from existence through his imagination. This erasure is potent enough to erase Guenael Lee from existence despite the fact he's completely unaffected after erasing his very own existence from reality with "The Vanishing Point", with his "existence" containing his soul, mind and body
  • Elemental Manipulation (The Soul King can manipulate the earth beneath him to construct a battlefield can create lava imprison his opponents in a cube of water to drown and suffocate them
  • BFR (Can open a portal and send targets to Space)
  • Power Bestowal (Using The Visionary, Soul King is capable of granting himself and others new abilities, like those of Guenael Lee)
  • Stealth Mastery (The Soul King can use The Visionary to sneak behind anyone with ease
  • Creation (It is heavily implied that Gremmy Thoumeaux is the brain of the soul king)

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Seems fine

 

[Duedate8898]

Sure, makes sense

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

agree

 

[Cipher72]

Very straightforward, I agree.

 

[Damage3245]

I agree with the OP.

 

[Purgy]

Is this good to apply or should I wait for another vote?

 

[Saqphire]

Yeah, the CRT is fine (wait for another vote tho)

 

[DavidTPPM]

Is this good to apply or should I wait for another vote?

You should wait for the end of grace (48 hours since thread started)

Also Bleach probably does need 3 staff votes due to its controversial nature so it's better to wait regardless

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

I agree

 

[LordGriffin1000]

This is fine, I agree with the removal.

 

[Crobatman44]

Is fine,pretty certain it required to wait a time period post thread creation before applying the changes iirc?

 

[SuperSonicTL]

Honestly speaking, it's not like Yhwach granted Gremmy his powers or smth, he most likely just reanimated it.

I don't see why Soul King himself shouldn't have Gremmy's abilities. Feels awkward why the source of very powers Yhwach himself have of bestowel is something he himself shouldn't.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Honestly speaking, it's not like Yhwach granted Gremmy his powers or smth, he most likely just reanimated it.

I don't see why Soul King himself shouldn't have Gremmy's abilities. Feels awkward why the source of very powers Yhwach himself have of bestowel is something he himself shouldn't.

Correct me if I'm wrong. As far as I remember, Yhwach doesn't give them their abilities. They awaken their abilities with the blood they receive from Yhwach. If Yhwach doesn't take their powers when they die, he can't possess those powers himself. That's why Liltotto's schrift isn't on Yhwach's profile.

 

[SuperSonicTL]

Correct me if I'm wrong. As far as I remember, Yhwach doesn't give them their abilities. They awaken their abilities with the blood they receive from Yhwach. If Yhwach doesn't take their powers when they die, he can't possess those powers himself. That's why Liltotto's schrift isn't on Yhwach's profile.

This is why I'm saying that this downgrade doesn't make any sense...

Regardless if it's either Yhwach or Gremmy, the end point is both of their abilities comes from Soul King — they are not any special. Thus, Adnyeus should have the visionary ability nonetheless.

It would've made alot more sense however if we removed the scrift from Yhwach's profile rather then Adnyeus'

 

[SacredDao]

This is why I'm saying that this downgrade doesn't make any sense...

Regardless if it's either Yhwach or Gremmy, the end point is both of their abilities comes from Soul King — they are not any special. Thus, Adnyeus should have the visionary ability nonetheless.

It would've made alot more sense however if we removed the scrift from Yhwach's profile rather then Adnyeus'

Makes sense. afaik what yhwach does is awaken their dormant ability, I think kubo also answered something like Yhwach can see the letter being engraved in the soul/body as well