(Mega Man Zero) - Omega Is Really, Really Greedy (AP Increase)

[TheHedgememe]

Looks good to me.

Epic.

How many more admin votes are needed?

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Epic.

How many more admin votes are needed?

Pretty sure one more is needed, since it isn't that controversial

 

[Dalesean027]

Hello! Kind of a random CRT but this is something that's been in my mind for a while and I figured I'd throw this at the wall and see if it sticks.

So, with the already accepted reasoning and justifications for Tier 2 Mega Man X/Zero/ZX in mind, there’s been something that’s bothered me. The Zero Era (and onwards) should actually have more universes in their AP than the X era. Please hear me out on this.

For those uninitiated on the current scaling, here’s the original Tier 2 MMX/Z/ZX thread in question:
https://vsbattles.com/threads/mega-...riumphant-return-massive-stat-upgrades.179855

Additionally, if you’d rather not read a thread, feel free to read this blog: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...scale_of_the_Cyberspaces_+_Tier_2_Mega_Man_X5

If you already know about this or have just now caught up, I’ll begin:

Let's start with the fact that Omega’s Cyberspace is where all data flows until the end. Not only would this include the data of reploids and all material phenomena (including time and space), but this should also include the data of other Cyberspaces that have existed in the series as well. And seeing as information from different points in time can be accessed through data, such as data from the past with how Phantom learns of the Elf Wars and Zero himself, and then the future through Snipe Anteater witnessing the events of Zero 1 from accessing Zero’s data, I think it’s reasonable that Omega’s Cyberspace should include all of these other Cyberspaces too as accessing data from different points in time is a concept that exists in the series as shown by Anteater and Phantom.

Remember, when Phantom says he learned of Zero (among the Elf Wars and the Dark Elf), he also says he learned of everything: Likely including Zero’s origins and his involvement in spreading the Sigma Virus as Phantom is disgusted by Zero, telling him he never had what it takes to be a hero, as if he actually found all of this out while in Cyberspace. Obviously, a majority of the X Era's events happened before Omega created his Cyberspace, so for Phantom to know about Zero in full, it would have to have directly accessed data from that point in time.

Even if the other Cyberspaces ceased to exist before the events of the Zero Era, Omega’s Cyberspace should have the data of the Cyberspaces anyways as it could have very well dug up the data of the other Cyberspaces from the past. It being a space-time mirroring the real world's phenomena in its entirety, should also logically include its past and its future—supported by Phantom learning of the past through the data within Cyberspace.

So, with that out of the way, let’s just get a headcount of all the Cyberspaces present past the 27+ already present in the Mother Computer:

• X4 Cyberspace (1 Universe)
• Zero Space (4 Universes)
• X7’s Cyber Field (1 Universe)
• X8’s Training Simulations (9, 8 standard training simulations and then Cut Man’s fight lol)

In total: 15 additional universes to add to the attack potency of 27+ (since the Mother Computer Cyberspaces should be included), making it 42+ universes. Holy crap, this is a bigger number than I expected.

Obviously, anyone who scales to Omega's creation of Cyberspace should scale to this, which I'm fairly certain means anyone that scales to a post Elf-Wars X, Zero, or Omega. Feel free to give your thoughts.

EDIT #1: Omega's Cyberspace should now include the training simulation of Doppler's Laboratory, X Challenge Zero Space, and the Cyber Space stage from Zero 4 (since it's a separate one from the one Omega created). That's two, plus another four for the Zero Space stages stored in X Challenge, leading the new total to be 48+ universes.

EDIT #2: The universe count is.... Actually much higher than the initial amount. What the hell. It's closer to being over a hundred, following the logic that the Maverick Hunters still store the past battle data of Mavericks in the same manner they did with the Mother Computer. Please read the linked doc for something I feel is more accurate. (TL;DR: 176 Universes)

EDIT #2.5: Also, Zero 4 Cyberspace is added to this so take the number in the document and add 1 to it. Classic Era might even bump up this number even more since it's well-established and agreed upon that data from past Cyberspaces is part of Omega's Cyberspace. Any future Cyberspaces (ZX/Legends) could also be part of this too but I'm not knowledgeable enough in ZX/Legends lore to argue for it. (EDIT 2.6: Omega's Cyberspace, on its own, is also another universe. Barring stuff from other eras, that's 2 from the Zero Era Omega would have created.)

This works

 

[TheHedgememe]

This works

Awesome! That should be both of the votes needed, then!

When is it alright to begin editing profiles?

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Awesome! That should be both of the votes needed, then!

When is it alright to begin editing profiles?

A day passed. I think it's fine enough to start

 

[Remus1998]

So 176 Universes... who in 2-C is around that level?

 

[TheHedgememe]

Dibs on Zero and Omega.

 

[TheHedgememe]

I'll probably make a blog out of the contents of the Google Doc.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Bump.

It's already accepted, it just needs to be edited into the pages

 

[TheHedgememe]

Blog made!

The Scale of Omega's Cyberspace

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[TheHedgememe]

Gonna be peak to have Zero Era characters at 100+ universes AP

 

[TyranoDoom30]

 

[TheHedgememe]

Gonna be peak to have Zero Era characters at 100+ universes AP

Absolute Cinema. Zero and Omega's changes have been made (I called dibs, after all).

Hopefully I'm following editing procedure properly. It's my first time actually editing any of the VSBW pages so I'm cross-referencing the Editing Rules blog to make sure I'm doing all of this right.

 

[TheHedgememe]

Absolute Cinema. Zero and Omega's changes have been made (I called dibs, after all).

Hopefully I'm following editing procedure properly. It's my first time actually editing any of the VSBW pages so I'm cross-referencing the Editing Rules blog to make sure I'm doing all of this right.

Okay, that should be everyone in MMZ/MMZX, that has statistics notes, edited. Might be time to close the thread since it got approval and edits have been made.

That said, I do have some other plans for the verse I intend to carry out whenever I can.