Spamton vs Kaneki (Deltarune vs Tokyo Ghoul) ([ 2-7-3 ]

[M2u12]

Isn't the one shot amp restricted? Because if base kaneki alread upscale from his value then a one shot amp would definately be a higher tier (also i tought the amp was the reason why kaneki was tier 7 in the first place)

No, it not Amp, it his raw ap that massively upscale a lot and His 7C come from AD not Amp.

 

[StrymULTRA]

He can heal from fatal damage like piece through torso? If so then IDK how kanaki well deal with that.

Well, it has no feats for that.

thought-based like his healing?

Yeah. Check the video a bit before.

 

[NikHelton]

Isn't the one shot amp restricted? Because if base kaneki alread upscale from his value then a one shot amp would definately be a higher tier (also i tought the amp was the reason why kaneki was tier 7 in the first place)

No, he reaches 7-C already in the battle with Arima. The rest is a scaling chain within the same tier.

Kaneki Centipede EoS >>>> Arata Amon >>>> Base Kaneki EoS > Base Amon ~ Centipede Kaneki Kanou lab >>>> 893 Tons.

 

[M2u12]

Well, it has no feats for that.

Good for Kaneki ig.

Yeah. Check the video a bit before.

To be honest, how is Kaneki going to win here lmao

 

[NikHelton]

Good for Kaneki ig.

To be honest, how is Kaneki going to win here lmao

Headshot

 

[NikHelton]

Spamton is still limited to High-Low regeneration. He cannot regenerate limbs, bisections, or head injuries.

 

[Qurbonboev]

Headshot

Kinda difficult when eyes, nose and mouth can shoot projectiles(which ne needs to avoid)

 

[God_of_perversion]

Does Kaneki resist Spantom's absorption? Spantom has far higher LS so probably not and if he gets caught he will take major soul damage

 

[M2u12]

Headshot

Yeahhh but thought always faster then movement, so Spamton can taking that.

But at the same time, he upscaled a lot from 893 tons, so Kaneki might actually be able to inflict fatal damage.

 

[NikHelton]

Does Kaneki resist Spantom's absorption? Spantom has far higher LS so probably not and if he gets caught he will take major soul damage

Far higher? The difference is only 1.5 times, and Kaneki's LS scaling chain is the same as his AP's. Their LS is equivalent.

 

[NikHelton]

Kinda difficult when eyes, nose and mouth can shoot projectiles(which ne needs to avoid)

A blow to the back of the head, a blow to the throat, cutting in half, disembowelment, anal probing. I could go on and on.

 

[God_of_perversion]

i went to check in a video and Spantom's absorption attack did 50 damage to Susie but that was with armour + without counting all the projectiles that Spantom also sucks in so it will probably be a one shot if kaneki gets caught

 

[NikHelton]

Yeahhh but thought always faster then movement, so Spamton can taking that.

But at the same time, he upscaled a lot from 893 tons, so Kaneki might actually be able to inflict fatal damage.

Don't overlook Kaneki's accelerated perception, which will even the odds. I still haven't heard back on how Spamton is handling regen neg.

 

[God_of_perversion]

Far higher? The difference is only 1.5 times, and Kaneki's LS scaling chain is the same as his AP's. Their LS is equivalent.

Spantom also upscale from his value by quite alot

 

[M2u12]

Kinda difficult when eyes, nose and mouth can shoot projectiles(which ne needs to avoid)

Enhanced Senses and Accelerate Perception (see someone in slow mo) can deal with that.

 

[NikHelton]

Spantom also upscale from his value by quite alot

That's why I'm talking about equivalence. A 1.5x difference won't give you any real advantage

 

[NikHelton]

Someone pls update Kaneki's page

M2u12 is preparing peak update.

 

[M2u12]

Don't overlook Kaneki's accelerated perception, which will even the odds. I still haven't heard back on how Spamton is handling regen neg.

don't Kagune regen neg is only work on biological organisms? Spamton here have Inorganic Physiology.

 

[NikHelton]

don't Kagune regen neg is only work on biological organisms? Spamton here have Inorganic Physiology.

Oh, sure

 

[God_of_perversion]

don't Kagune regen neg is only work on biological organisms? Spamton here have Inorganic Physiology.

To be more precise he is a spam email given a physicall form lol,on his quest he literally transfers himself into a empty disk to achieve his Neo form

 

[M2u12]

Does Spamton have any attacks that would actually land a hit on Kaneki?

 

[Qurbonboev]

Does Spamton have any attacks that would actually land a hit on Kaneki?

Most of the danmaku is unavoidable (or nigh-impossible to avoid) if you don't destroy bullets consciously.
Some bullets would be invisible by virtue of being soundwaves.
And Final Attack will suck him into his mouth(SNEO has slight LS advantage) and kill

 

[NikHelton]

Most of the danmaku is unavoidable (or nigh-impossible to avoid) if you don't destroy bullets consciously.
Some bullets would be invisible by virtue of being soundwaves.
And Final Attack will suck him into his mouth(SNEO has slight LS advantage) and kill

Shockwave attacks are nothing new in TG, and even Kouma dodged one. A 1.5x difference isn't enough to suck him in, especially given the length of the scaling chain.

 

[M2u12]

Most of the danmaku is unavoidable (or nigh-impossible to avoid) if you don't destroy bullets consciously.

Are there gaps between the projectiles for Kaneki to dodge through?
If that's the case, Kaneki can dodge it.

And Final Attack will suck him into his mouth(SNEO has slight LS advantage) and kill

Wouldn't that just make it easier for Kaneki to attack him?

 

[Qurbonboev]

Shockwave attacks are nothing new in TG, and even Kouma dodged one. A 1.5x difference isn't enough to suck him in, especially given the length of the scaling chain.

BUt he doesn't have flight. And trying to create anchors in the ground or the buildings won't help that much, since Class G force will just wreak them too.

Are there gaps between the projectiles for Kaneki to dodge through?

There are "gaps", which you are supposed to destroy first and them fit through. See for example this:

Wouldn't that just make it easier for Kaneki to attack him?

During final attack he is 20 meter tall Mecha. So he can comfortably fit inside mouth.
Also during final attack, random danmaku would appear behind him, making it even harder to dodge it

 

[God_of_perversion]

Are there gaps between the projectiles for Kaneki to dodge through?
If that's the case, Kaneki can dodge it.

Nope the only way to dodge the attack is by breaking it with the yellow soul bullets

 

[Qurbonboev]

Btw, counted votes.
If you thought that you voted, but don't see your names in the OP, cast it again

 

[M2u12]

There are "gaps", which you are supposed to destroy first and them fit through. See for example this:

Couldn't Kaneki just use his kagune to prop himself up and jump to dodge it? He doesn't necessarily have to destroy it.

During final attack he is 20 meter tall Mecha. So he can comfortably fit inside mouth.
Also during final attack, random danmaku would appear behind him, making it even harder to dodge it

His kagune can stretch this far, so Spamton probably won't be very comfortable with Kaneki in his mouth. And he can dodge an attack in blind spot via Awareness, so it shouldn't be too difficult for him to evade it.

 

[NikHelton]

From what I understand, they can both deal fatal blows to each other, both can inflict wounds that cannot be healed, and their LS is relatively equal.
However, Kaneki has more flexible attacks, instinctive actions, heightened senses, slow-motion vision, and a kakuja that increases speed. He also knows how to fight danmaku and actively dodges attacks. He also has better endurance and can fight even with fatal wounds that he cannot regenerate.
A battle of attrition will be on his side; he has a greater evasive toolkit and superior skills.

Kaneki FRA

 

[NikHelton]

Btw, counted votes.
If you thought that you voted, but don't see your names in the OP, cast it again

2/2

 

[NikHelton]

Couldn't Kaneki just use his kagune to prop himself up and jump to dodge it? He doesn't necessarily have to destroy it.

His kagune can stretch this far, so Spamton probably won't be very comfortable with Kaneki in his mouth. And he can dodge an attack in blind spot via Awareness, so it shouldn't be too difficult for him to evade it.

Kaneki simply causes serious brain damage from the inside. By the way, are you voting?

 

[M2u12]

By the way, are you voting?

I'm not going to vote on anything just yet, I wants to be sure before voting on something.

 

[God_of_perversion]

Kaneki simply causes serious brain damage from the inside. By the way, are you voting?

Does Spantom even have a brain? He is a living Spam email so maybe not,also he can turn his mind into data

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Spamton has no resistance to Fear Manipulation. Kaneki Battle Spirit gg /s

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Spamton has no resistance to Fear Manipulation. Kaneki Battle Spirit gg /s

what does the fear hax do besides just creeping people out tho

 

[M2u12]

what does the fear hax do besides just creeping people out tho

If you fear something, do you really want to keep fighting? (unless you have a very strong will)
Even though I don't agree with Kaneki having fear hax.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

If you fear something, do you really want to keep fighting? (unless you have a very strong will)
Even though I don't agree with Kaneki having fear hax.

if losing would lead to a dire set of conseqences then yeah

like 5 yr olds fear the dark, but they know at some point they have to accept it anyway

 

[NikHelton]

Spamton has no resistance to Fear Manipulation. Kaneki Battle Spirit gg /s

Kaneki nen crush

 

[M2u12]

if losing would lead to a dire set of conseqences then yeah

like 5 yr olds fear the dark, but they know at some point they have to accept it anyway

But fear hax doesn't work like normal fear, it's supernatural fear and Kaneki can induce such fear that it forces his opponents to flee mid-battle. Spamton has no resistance to it.

But he has it in another key, so it doesn't matter in this match.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

But fear hax doesn't work like normal fear, it's supernatural fear and Kaneki can induce such fear that it forces his opponents to flee mid-battle. Spamton has no resistance to it.

it took me a moment to realize SBA allows opponents to give up through fear manip

Yo kaneki battle spirit crush?

But he has it in another key, so it doesn't matter in this match.

Awwww