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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Didn't whis tell beerus that he made a Time Ring because he went and killed zamasu when he wasn't suppose to ?

Pretty sure splits only happen when its in relation to some time travel shenanigan and event altering

 
Azer, dude, I know you are extremely excited behind that screen but I'm begging you to stop.

Also no way you get 2-A rating via that.
 
@Azertyhuuh You might want to discuss your ideas regarding Dragon Ball cosmology here, specifically your new arguments about the Gods or Goku being able to destroy two universes along with the 'insignificant 5D' space. Since the other thread focuses on a different topic, bringing these points up there could lead to derailing. That said, could you briefly explain your exact argument here?
 
BoastJr said:
Didn't whis tell beerus that he made a Time Ring because he went and killed zamasu when he wasn't suppose to ?

Pretty sure splits only happen when its in relation to some time travel shenanigan and event altering

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Maybe the album on the profile can explain it a bit, however Beerus needs to go to the future because they can't destroy Zamasu just by changing history at one point in time, so he gets angry when he visits Gowasu and says if only he could go to the future and deal with Zamasu directly there.

So Whis asks Beerus directly in that world to use his authority, because in any world the history of "Zamasu killing Gowasu ≈ Zero Mortal Plan" will always happen (you can see 3 histories that have happened = Goku's Timeline, Future Trunks' Timeline, and Future Trunks' New Timeline) which is not strange why Zamasu would have a Time Ring protecting him so they can't do much just by destroying Zamasu at one point in time.
 
Reiner04 said:
@Azertyhuuh You might want to discuss your ideas regarding Dragon Ball cosmology here, specifically your new arguments about the Gods or Goku being able to destroy two universes along with the 'insignificant 5D' space. Since the other thread focuses on a different topic, bringing these points up there could lead to derailing. That said, could you briefly explain your exact argument here?
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It is relevant to the topic. The matter has already been approved. A clash between two Gods of Destruction causes the annihilation of both universes, and this includes a portion of the Neutral Zone located between the two universes. This means the destruction of a small five-dimensional structure. I stated that destroying a small five-dimensional structure is a 2-A feat, because even the smallest five-dimensional part contains an uncountably infinite number of four-dimensional structures within it. That is all—and this is only one part of the topic.
 
Azertyhuuh said:
smallest five-dimensional part contains an uncountably infinite number of four-dimensional structures within it.
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I only lurk here to spy on everyone, but this statement is wrong. An uncountable infinite number of 4D spaces is Low 1-C
We then move on to the power set of ℵ0, P(ℵ0), which is an uncountably infinite quantity and represents the set of all the ways in which you can arrange the elements of a set whose cardinality is the former, and is also equal to the size of the set of all real numbers. In terms of points, one can say that everything from 1-dimensional space to (countably) infinite-dimensional space falls under it, as all of these spaces have the same number of elements (coordinates, in this case), in spite of each being infinitely larger than the preceding one by the intuitive notions of size that we regularly utilize (Area, Volume, etc.).

On the other hand, an P(ℵ0) number of universes is Low 1-C, and a similar number of spatial dimensions is High 1-B+.
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You're talking about a countable infinite number of 4D structures, which can only occur if Beerus and Champa temporally erased a partial amount of the space-time of the entire Neutral Zone.
 
Azertyhuuh said:
It is relevant to the topic. The matter has already been approved. A clash between two Gods of Destruction causes the annihilation of both universes, and this includes a portion of the Neutral Zone located between the two universes. This means the destruction of a small five-dimensional structure. I stated that destroying a small five-dimensional structure is a 2-A feat, because even the smallest five-dimensional part contains an uncountably infinite number of four-dimensional structures within it. That is all—and this is only one part of the topic.
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THe arguement they are using differ from the arguement u are proposing mid ways that can derail the actual arguement that needs to be evaluated. If person A has X arguement to prove Tier 1 then he has all rights for his X arguement to be properly evaluated in his own thread. If some other person has Y arguement different from the person A then he should create his own thread (after 26-27 days now) to get it evaluated, rather than derailing person A thread with it.
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
After that crt passes, someone could point out some advantages in Zeno's existential erasure, such as some absurd layers.
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Shadow7001 said:
Whis later traveled to the timeline that Beerus' erasure of Zamasu had created. I forget the manga chapter but it's the one where he flies off to another timeline (often used to argue immeasurable speed Whis)
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So, yes, I'm correct. You were talking about the end of the story arc.
Azertyhuuh said:
-quaternary canon interview-
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BoastJr said:
Didn't whis tell beerus that he made a Time Ring because he went and killed zamasu when he wasn't suppose to ?

Pretty sure splits only happen when its in relation to some time travel shenanigan and event altering

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Again, had Future Trunks not warned the Z-Fighters, which was only possible because he rewrote history, Zamasu's original plans of killing Gowasu, swapping bodies with Goku, and then attacking Future Trunks would've unfolded without issue. Zamasu is only erased by Beerus because Future Trunks intervened and altered history.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
So, yes, I'm correct. You were talking about the end of the story arc.
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Right, so he informs the Beerus of that arc of Zamasu, which would result in that Beerus wiping Zamasu out too, which means a new timeline should also technically be created the same way Trunks' return causing Beerus to wipe present Zamasu is what caused the former timeline to exist, but that wasn't even a concern for either Whis or Beerus or anyone standing there, even though it's essentially the same as what Trunks did. Point is, the statement that only time travel creates parallel worlds is demonstrably false within the series and it is, at best, simply inconsistent and usually just a plot device.
 
Shadow7001 said:
Right, so he informs the Beerus of that arc of Zamasu, which would result in that Beerus wiping Zamasu out too, which means a new timeline should also technically be created the same way Trunks' return causing Beerus to wipe present Zamasu is what caused the former timeline to exist, but that wasn't even a concern for either Whis or Beerus or anyone standing there, even though it's essentially the same as what Trunks did. Point is, the statement that only time travel creates parallel worlds is demonstrably false within the series and it is, at best, simply inconsistent and usually just a plot device.
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It was mentioned in Dragon Ball that time travel or changing the past is not the only way to create parallel worlds. Even decisions made from time to time create parallel worlds as well. For example, even if you say “I am here,” the universe around you manifests and creates parallel worlds. Dragon Ball follows a Type 3 multiverse theory, involving quantum mechanics, and the Bulma notebook shows this. The work deliberately displays this notebook on-screen so that viewers can understand the type of universe and what happens within it, as shown in the notebook ↓

In quantum mechanics, basis elements refer to the states that form a complete set, meaning any state of the system can be expressed as a linear combination of these basis states. In some cases, such as for a particle in a one-dimensional box, the basis elements can be discrete and finite. However, in other cases, such as for a particle in free space, the basis elements can be infinite

To achieve an infinite number of basis elements in quantum mechanics, one commonly uses the concept of momentum eigenstates or plane waves. These states are characterized by definite momentum values and are represented by the wavefunction Psi(p) where p is the momentum. The set of all possible momentum eigenstates forms an infinite basis for the system.

The scan in question even says chou-kuu-kan which means superspace and the way it functions suckin all light up is literally in context supergravity and supersemmtry and the basis elements within it are infinite because of the previous scans we have of how Psi(p) works

the bottom left red circle is Psi(p) To achieve an infinite number of basis elements in quantum mechanics, one commonly uses the concept of momentum eigenstates or plane waves. These states are characterized by definite momentum values and are represented by the wavefunction Psi(p).
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Azertyhuuh said:
It was mentioned in Dragon Ball that time travel or changing the past is not the only way to create parallel worlds. Even decisions made from time to time create parallel worlds as well. For example, even if you say “I am here,” the universe around you manifests and creates parallel worlds. Dragon Ball follows a Type 3 multiverse theory, involving quantum mechanics, and the Bulma notebook shows this.
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Are there scans for any of these?
 
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