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A Hunters grasp| The Hunter (Bloodborne) vs The Player (Slap battles) | [10-2-0] (Concluded)

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anything is allowed as long as its on the profile ofc

like I said earlier there are no restrictions here
Oh then edgelord just kind of ***** over hunter how is he going to get close at all and does he even have invulnerability negation. Even if slap dosent put him down it jsut keeps going til one of them gives up. he can overwhelm hunter with spawning a shit ton of clones, leave him trapped under para inducment forever with OneMillionBricks. Sus is likey ee so thats also an easy win. Slayer glove has infinite sleepy round sso hunters just gonna be sutn locked
 
Oh then edgelord just kind of ***** over hunter how is he going to get close at all and does he even have invulnerability negation. Even if slap dosent put him down it jsut keeps going til one of them gives up
He doesnt need to get close, he has guns and multiple forms of ranged attack

And yes he does via the Bloodletter
 
Oh then edgelord just kind of ***** over hunter how is he going to get close at all and does he even have invulnerability negation
i'm gonna stay netural on the more debatable stuff here but regarding the thread its already been established that slap has stuff that could kill the hunter

the real questions you should be answering is if he's gonna use this before the hunter uses their own winconditions like madness haxing him with bloodletter
 
i'm gonna stay netural on the more debatable stuff here but regarding the thread its already been established that slap has stuff that could kill the hunter

the real questions you should be answering is if he's gonna use this before the hunter uses their own winconditions like madness haxing him with bloodletter
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He doesnt need to get close, he has guns and multiple forms of ranged attack

And yes he does via the Bloodletter
intagibility, even if slap gets madness manip congrats, he still cant hit him, also apparently he needs to actually hit the player to draw blood for his madness manip so good luck with that, edgelord makes it so he cant hit him and even if he dosent do edgelord i doubt slap would ge too close he has plenty ranged abilites. also if john slap sends absolutley any npc spawns after and sees them getting hit by that and go insane hes going to avoid it like a hot potato. Reverse or el gato could just send it bakc to the hunter and some of the abilites of bloodletter activley damage the hunter. I am getting my info on bloodlettter from this so please correct me if im wrong

 
intagibility, even if slap gets madness manip congrats, he still cant hit him,
he absolutely can
also apparently he needs to actually hit the player to draw blood for his madness manip so good luck with that,
The hunter is FAR more skilled than slap and with contant ressurections they would gradually be gaining more and more knowledge on slaps kit and tendencies so predicting things and capitilizing on mistakes wouldn't be that hard

in which case hitting him would be very doable
 
The bloodletter doesnt need a direct hit with the weapon, its an AoE attack
 
he absolutely can

The hunter is FAR more skilled than slap and with contant ressurections they would gradually be gaining more and more knowledge on slaps kit and tendencies so predicting things and capitilizing on mistakes wouldn't be that hard

in which case hitting him would be very doable
invulnerability is not intangibiity. All of these are similar but not invulnerability. 200 gloves is a lot of variety so if slap sees him start to adapt to one thing just switch to another. Also prior point on slap summoning npcs
 
invulnerability is not intangibiity
invulnerability only works against things its been shown to be invulnerable against

in this case you would have to prove spectator is invulnerable to madness type 2

not only that but i'd say since slap is going to be switching gloves (and the hunter would be paying attention to things like this) he isn't going to be invulnerable forever so the hunter would just hit him the moment he isn't using spectator
 
invulnerability only works against things its been shown to be invulnerable against

in this case you would have to prove spectator is invulnerable to madness type 2

not only that but i'd say since slap is going to be switching gloves (and the hunter would be paying attention to things like this) he isn't going to be invulnerable forever
i never brought up spectator, ive been talking to edgelord, and how hunter is going to have a really hard time hitting said edgelord due to instant teleportation and invulnerability plus telekenisis with 0 cooldown if hunter gets too close. Also the flex would likley hurt as from my understanding the hunter was able to resist transmutiation due to the effect being overtime and them still being able to percive it, players dying after transmutation is game mechanics and can be disregarded here. Also el gato is full heals and will allow the player tiral and error. if the player needs time tom analyze strategy they can just use error and leave for barzil, bfr has to be 12 hours and all the player would have to do is make a plan and do the evil barzil boss which theyve been shown to no hit
 
i never brought up spectator, ive been talking to edgelord,
the same thing applies to that too (i forgot spectator isn't the only glove that does this)
and how hunter is going to have a really hard time hitting said edgelord due to instant teleportation and invulnerability
This is true but he still has to switch to something that can actually kill the hunter and after multiple retries the hunter would know slap needs to switch gloves for different abilities to work so if they see him switch to a different glove to attack they are going to abuse this window.
plus telekenisis with 0 cooldown if hunter gets too close,
Slaps class 5 TK is a non-factor here
 
the same thing applies to that too (i forgot spectator isn't the only glove that does this)

This is true but he still has to switch to something that can actually kill the hunter and after multiple retries the hunter would know slap needs to switch gloves for different abilities to work so if they see him switch to a different glove to attack they are going to abuse this window.

Slaps class 5 TK is a non-factor here
teleportation is still going to be annoying, also my point on petrification has been ignored several times but fair point on the tk however. Mail glove however royally screws the hunter as it bypasses their ressurection and would block thier entire vison so they would be most likley to just click whatever to get it out due to their asumption theyll just ressurect. And the reason mail is never used is because players already know how it would work so in a situation where slap know the opponent knows nothing of their abilites i dont see nwhy they wouldnt use it
 
teleportation is still going to be annoying
The Hunter can teleport as well via the Old Hunter Bone
Mail glove however royally screws the hunter as it bypasses their ressurection and would block thier entire vison so they would be most likley to just click whatever to get it out due to their asumption theyll just ressurect. And the reason mail is never used is because players already know how it would work so in a situation where slap know the opponent knows nothing of their abilites i dont see nwhy they wouldnt use it
The Hunter is fully capable of fighting without vision, there are multiple pieces of gear that specifically blind them as well as multiple instances of fighting after having their eyes torn out
 
teleportation is still going to be annoying,
yeah but slap has to actually Kill the hunter to win
also my point on petrification has been ignored several times
he resists this thanks to willpower, bringing him back from transmutation and petrification in it of itself is just a subset of transmutation
Mail glove however royally screws the hunter as it bypasses their ressurection and would block thier entire vison so they would be most likley to just click whatever to get it out due to their asumption theyll just ressurect.
on its own no mail dosen't kill him

it would if slap did something like timestop and power null him with disarm but that just ties back to the question of whos more likely to lead with their wincons
And the reason mail is never used is because players already know how it would work so in a situation where slap know the opponent knows nothing of their abilites i dont see nwhy they wouldnt use it
again he has to use mail with a specific combo of gloves since mail on its own is not killing the hunter
 
Also, some other things for The Hunter include:

-Poison manipulation via the Chikage and Poison Knives, as well as Murky and Dirty Gems that inflict poison and rapid poison respectively
-Attack Reflection with Beast Roar
-Invisibility via Blue Elixir
-The Shaman Bone Blade, which completely numbs the target's senses and removes their gross motor skills on contact, immediately followed by temporarily pacifying turning them into The Hunter's ally
 
Oh also The Hunter has the ability to summon other Hunters comparable to himself in power and skill with his Bells
 
Also, some other things for The Hunter include:

-Poison manipulation via the Chikage and Poison Knives, as well as Murky and Dirty Gems that inflict poison and rapid poison respectively
Does the poison insta kill? slaps invulnerability actually works on poison and has stuff like elgato to purify it as well
-Attack Reflection with Beast Roar
Slap kinda has this as well with stuff like reverse + i'm pretty sure he has gloves that bypass attack reflection
-Invisibility via Blue Elixir
this is notable
-The Shaman Bone Blade, which completely numbs the target's senses and removes their gross motor skills on contact, immediately followed by temporarily pacifying turning them into The Hunter's ally
if this hits slap he might be cooked
 
How strong is The Player's black hole (since it's listed in his abilities)?
for all intents and purposes based on wiki rules the pull would scale to the lifting strength its been shown to deal with

in this case that means its vaguely above class 5 (the hunter should be fine here)
 
But yeah, even if the Player manages to get The Hunter on the back foot, he just rings a beckoning bell and now theres three Hunters that The Player has to deal with
 
so that means it has a chance to kill slap before he switches (assuming they don't know its poison)
Sorry, double checked the differencce between regular and rapid poison, Rapid Poison is instant

 
Sorry, double checked the differencce between regular and rapid poison, Rapid Poison is instant

Does the poison also negate slaps immo type 2 and mid regen? (these 2 are innate things slap has naturally)
 
if hunter starts spawning too many clone sap can just use clone glove to counteract it, also clone glove is going to overwhelm hunter. As for the posion el gato purification counteracts it even while slap is being posiomned
yeah but slap has to actually Kill the hunter to win

he resists this thanks to willpower, bringing him back from transmutation and petrification in it of itself is just a subset of transmutation

on its own no mail dosen't kill him

it would if slap did something like timestop and power null him with disarm but that just ties back to the question of whos more likely to lead with their wincons

again he has to use mail with a specific combo of gloves since mail on its own is not killing the hunter
why would it on its own not kill the hunter, it has been shown to negato immortality type four. Also how exactly is he supposed to come back fully cause hes only been shown to come back while hes in the middle of fluctuation.
 
But yeah, even if the Player manages to get The Hunter on the back foot, he just rings a beckoning bell and now theres three Hunters that The Player has to deal with
and clone glove can spawn slap clones with no cooldown. And also as stated before rob has sealing properties so i dont see why rob glove just wouldnt be an instant gg
 
if hunter starts spawning too many clone sap can just use clone glove to counteract it, also clone glove is going to overwhelm hunter.
Theyre not clones, theyre other people entire, NPC Hunters you meet throughout the game
 
Also, some other things for The Hunter include:

-Poison manipulation via the Chikage and Poison Knives, as well as Murky and Dirty Gems that inflict poison and rapid poison respectively
-Attack Reflection with Beast Roar
-Invisibility via Blue Elixir
-The Shaman Bone Blade, which completely numbs the target's senses and removes their gross motor skills on contact, immediately followed by temporarily pacifying turning them into The Hunter's ally
slap has something very similar to the bone blade (buddies glove),
 
As for the posion el gato purification counteracts it even while slap is being posiomned
what about when slap dosen't have el gato equipped? the poison is instant so switching to a glove that can deal with it isn't an answer here
why would it on its own not kill the hunter, it has been shown to negato immortality type four.
because the hunters type 4 is completely different from standard type 4
 
what about when slap dosen't have el gato equipped? the poison is instant so switching to a glove that can deal with it isn't an answer here

because the hunters type 4 is completely different from standard type 4
instant in what way, instnalty kills you, instnantly activates? be specific. I still dont buy the hunter being immune to transmutation as hes only been shown to resist partial transmutaitons. No one has also adressed how one million bricks could just keep hunter stunlocked permanently, or robs sealing propeties, or sus gloves existence erausre. Also just thought of a new wincon, Necromancer glove could leave hunter incapped as a zombie. All slap has to do is kill him once and hes stuck as a zombie even if he dies over and over again
 
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