A Hunters grasp| The Hunter (Bloodborne) vs The Player (Slap battles) | [10-2-0] (Concluded)

[Delusionaltx2]

was talking about the poison,

like the time it takes before the dmg starts/ends?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

was talking about the poison, also i would like to see the weapon that inflicts frenzys aoe

I posted it already, its the Bloodletter

 

[WeeklyBattles]

instant in what way, instnalty kills you, instnantly activates?

Instant damage that kills. Slow poison is damage over time, rapid poison is damage all at once

 

[Friedoil11]

I think that I’ll vote The Hunter

 

[Delusionaltx2]

I think that I’ll vote The Hunter

I left ur vote on hunter

 

[Friedoil11]

I didn’t realised, sorry

 

[Delusionaltx2]

I didn’t realised, sorry

nono its fine (if anything its kinda my fault forgetting to discard it)

 

[Thunderman101]

is there anything the hunter usually starts with? whats meta cause from whatg i understand the hunter is mostly a player character

 

[Thunderman101]

instant in what way, instnalty kills you, instnantly activates? be specific. I still dont buy the hunter being immune to transmutation as hes only been shown to resist partial transmutaitons. No one has also adressed how one million bricks could just keep hunter stunlocked permanently, or robs sealing propeties, or sus gloves existence erausre. Also just thought of a new wincon, Necromancer glove could leave hunter incapped as a zombie. All slap has to do is kill him once and hes stuck as a zombie even if he dies over and over again

so are we just gonna ignore this orrrr. i dont want to act rude but i feel as if most of my proposed wincons have been ingnored and the ones that are easier to debunk have been adressed

 

[Delusionaltx2]

so are we just gonna ignore this orrrr. i dont want to act rude but i feel as if most of my proposed wincons have been ingnored and the ones that are easier to debunk have been adressed

Already did for the proposed ones anyway

instant in what way, instnalty kills you, instnantly activates? be specific.

Instant damage that kills. Slow poison is damage over time, rapid poison is damage all at once

No one has also adressed how one million bricks could just keep hunter stunlocked permanently,

how would he even do that?

or robs sealing propeties,

he genuenly just outranges the sealing with dimensional travel heck his own res does that for him since the sealing kills the victim

or sus gloves existence erausre.

that isn't on the profile yet so it can't be used

Also just thought of a new wincon, Necromancer glove could leave hunter incapped as a zombie. All slap has to do is kill him once and hes stuck as a zombie even if he dies over and over again

since this is necromancy that might work?

@WeeklyBattles what are ur thoughts on this?

 

[Thunderman101]

Already did for the proposed ones anyway



how would he even do that?

he genuenly just outranges the sealing with dimensional travel heck his own res does that for him since the sealing kills the victim

that isn't on the profile yet so it can't be used

since this is necromancy that might work?

@WeeklyBattles what are ur thoughts on this?

how one million bnrick works is its just brick glove with no cooldown, soo slap could just bury him under a mountain of bricks leaving him trapped in a loop of getting insta stunned (he cant use his abilites during stunned), getting back up again and etc). Also transmuatation wincon, show me a time the hunter has come back from becoming fully transmutated

 

[Delusionaltx2]

how one million bnrick works is its just brick glove with no cooldown, soo slap could just bury him under a mountain of bricks leaving him trapped in a loop of getting insta stunned (he cant use his abilites during stunned), getting back up again and etc).

Since he's making uhh one million bricks... one at a time... he would still need time to do that

thats time the hunter simply wouldn't give him

 

[Thunderman101]

Since he's making uhh one million bricks... one at a time... he would still need time to do that

thats time the hunter simply wouldn't give him

not how one million bricks works (It used to be called minecraft). Link isint working so time stamp is 4:30

 

[Thunderman101]

also gum glove could just leave the hunter floating forever, with no nway to use his abilites

 

[Thunderman101]

anyways im likley gonna be online alot less so it may take longe rto respond to counter points today

 

[Delusionaltx2]

not how one million bricks works (It used to be called minecraft). Link isint working so time stamp is 4:30

the video has them summon one brick at a time (albeit in quick succession)

he dosen't summon 1 million at once

 

[WeeklyBattles]

is there anything the hunter usually starts with? whats meta cause from whatg i understand the hunter is mostly a player character

Not particularly no, all their weapons do basically the same thing damage-wise just with different movesets

 

[Thunderman101]

the video has them summon one brick at a time (albeit in quick succession)

he dosen't summon 1 million at once

true, but its fast enough to keeep the hunter stunlocked (there was a clip somewhere ill find it)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also just thought of a new wincon, Necromancer glove could leave hunter incapped as a zombie. All slap has to do is kill him once and hes stuck as a zombie even if he dies over and over again

Unless this is shown to work even when time is reversed, it will not leave him permanently as a zombie

 

[Delusionaltx2]

true, but its fast enough to keeep the hunter stunlocked (there was a clip somewhere ill find it)

not really since the amount of bricks it summons at a time wouldn't just instantly flood the battlefield if the hunter is like idk 10 meters away they can just back away from them and spam ranged attacks

 

[Thunderman101]

Not particularly no, all their weapons do basically the same thing damage-wise just with different movesets

so i feel like this is starting to boil down to who strikes first. is that not incon?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

also gum glove could just leave the hunter floating forever, with no nway to use his abilites

Ranged weapons, plus the ability to just force his own resurrection via the Hunter's Mark

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Anyway outside of timestop + disarm another wincondition I can see for the player is using the paralysis potion to stun the hunter and then hitting them with gum to attach gum that would make him float into the air

normally with gum, people fly into the void and die; however SBA has the fight take place in a netural place like new york so the hunter would just be stuck there floating indefietely which shouldn't trigger his ressurection since he isn't dying

Edit: fixed the gum link

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Anyway outside of timestop + disarm another wincondition I can see for the player is using the paralysis potion to stun the hunter and then hitting them with gum to attach gum that would make him float into the air

normally with gum, people fly into the void and die; however SBA has the fight take place in a netural place like new york so the hunter would just be stuck there floating indefietely which shouldn't trigger his ressurection since he isn't dying

The problem is he can force his own resurrection with the Hunter's Mark

Also he has guns and other ranged weapons, so being stuck in the air doesnt prevent him from fighting

 

[Friedoil11]

if the gum makes The Hunter fly for an indefinite period of time, at some point he should fall down and then he can resurrect, and at some point he might go to space and die if the gum doesn't explode.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

The problem is he can force his own resurrection with the Hunter's Mark

That's a good point

Also he has guns and other ranged weapons, so being stuck in the air doesnt prevent him from fighting

guns only have a range of around hundreds of meters, if he flies to a point where he's say, kilometers away, he can't really use those anymore

 

[Delusionaltx2]

if the gum makes The Hunter fly for an indefinite period of time, at some point he should fall down and then he can resurrect,

since there isn't really an end to when he's flying he wouldn't reach a point where he could fall down

and at some point he might go to space and die if the gum doesn't explode.

Oh yeah he dosen't have self sustanance

 

[Thunderman101]

Unless this is shown to work even when time is reversed, it will not leave him permanently as a zombie

Actually it does, there's a glove called recall that rewinds time for a couple seconds for you and others and if u use It on a recently turned zombie they stay a zombie

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Actually it does, there's a glove called recall that rewinds time for a couple seconds for you and others and if u use It on a recently turned zombie they stay a zombie

well that changes things (this also technically means stuff that bypassess recall can bypass resurection)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

if the gum makes The Hunter fly for an indefinite period of time, at some point he should fall down and then he can resurrect, and at some point he might go to space and die if the gum doesn't explode.

He doesnt need to be on the ground to resurrect, he can do it just by thinking

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Actually it does, there's a glove called recall that rewinds time for a couple seconds for you and others and if u use It on a recently turned zombie they stay a zombie

Thats far less than the Hunter's rewind, it can rewind minutes to hours

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Thats far less than the Hunter's rewind, it can rewind minutes to hours

I think he's saying even if you turned a player into a zombie only a second ago and they get recalled back by 3 seconds they still stay a zombie

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I think he's saying even if you turned a player into a zombie only a second ago and they get recalled back by 3 seconds they still stay a zombie

What type of zombification is it? the Hunter has a resistance to biological/disease based undeath transformation.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

What type of zombification is it? the Hunter has a resistance to biological/disease based undeath transformation.

I'm not exactly sure tbh

for the time being assume its normal necromancy until thunderman comes up with something

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I'm not exactly sure tbh

for the time being assume its normal necromancy until thunderman comes up with something

Necromancy isnt turning living people into undead though, its raising/controlling those that are already dead

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Necromancy isnt turning living people into undead though, its raising/controlling those that are already dead

Yeah and in this case you have to kill the player/enemy first in order to turn them into a zombie so it would fall under the latter

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah and in this case you have to kill the player/enemy first in order to turn them into a zombie so it would fall under the latter

Okay so it just wouldnt work then, the Hunter's time reversal happens as soon as they die

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Okay so it just wouldnt work then, the Hunter's time reversal happens as soon as they die

the zombification also works immediately upon killing the enemy though

 

[Friedoil11]

the zombification also works immediately upon killing the enemy though

usually doesn't it work when there is the body (I mean that The Player has to touch it or something like that to zombify it)? and when The Hunter dies, there is the body on the floor so that The Player can transform it or it disappears?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

usually doesn't it work when there is the body (I mean that The Player has to touch it or something like that to zombify it)? and when The Hunter dies, there is the body on the floor so that The Player can transform it or it disappears?

It disappears