A Hunters grasp| The Hunter (Bloodborne) vs The Player (Slap battles) | [10-2-0] (Concluded)

[Delusionaltx2]

usually doesn't it work when there is the body (I mean that The Player has to touch it or something like that to zombify it)? and when The Hunter dies, there is the body on the floor so that The Player can transform it or it disappears?

if you die to a user holding the glove a gravestone spawns where you died and you crawl out of this gravestone as a zombie

Edit: the gravestone the victim is trapped in spawns where the player last slapped you not where you died

 

[Friedoil11]

thanks

 

[Delusionaltx2]

this is the glove in action

 

[WeeklyBattles]

this is the glove in action

Do you have a clip of it working through time rewind-based resurrection?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Do you have a clip of it working through time rewind-based resurrection?

No (it working through recall is prob something thunderman has though)

 

[Thunderman101]

Will find the clip later. But I just wanted to bring up flex glove. Dying after being transmutated is game mechanics because obviously the devs can't leave someone there. And from my understanding the hunter was only able to resist transmuation due to it being overtime and them having a constant supply of blood. This is instant. Also the rob sealing would in fact work as it was able to maintain the eternal bobs sealing on the dark realm, who in his base form has dimensional travel as he's shown in the shopkeeper realm, slap royale, the main game etc

 

[Arkansalter2]

are staff gloves allowed here? Also wanna bring up the fact that hunters gonna have a hell of a time trying to put slap down. Also rob sealing powers go brr

Optional equipment. No + making a CRT for sus glove.

 

[Thunderman101]

Optional equipment. No + making a CRT for sus glove.

Op said optional equipment is allowed

 

[Arkansalter2]

Op said optional equipment is allowed

Interesting.
Now I technically can't argue for staff gloves since they're... not super complete on the profile. But hey things got a LOT more interesting.
Gum would make this a quick GGs as the gum glove just allows for the adhesives to just keep popping him and knocking him back forever.
Edgelord is just an instant GGs as you're invulnerable, have nigh infinite and unrestricted TP, and just instant TK knockback.
Sus is just EE = GGs (CRT in progress for this)
Terry just kills you.
BOBBLE is inescapable unlike it's regular counterpart
Infinite sleep bullets...

Yeah staff gloves are pretty bysred.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Op said optional equipment is allowed

no optional equitment

I want it to just be SBA

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Interesting.
Now I technically can't argue for staff gloves since they're... not super complete on the profile. But hey things got a LOT more interesting.
Gum would make this a quick GGs as the gum glove just allows for the adhesives to just keep popping him and knocking him back forever.
Edgelord is just an instant GGs as you're invulnerable, have nigh infinite and unrestricted TP, and just instant TK knockback.
Sus is just EE = GGs (CRT in progress for this)
Terry just kills you.
BOBBLE is inescapable unlike it's regular counterpart
Infinite sleep bullets...

Yeah staff gloves are pretty bysred.

if these are optional then they can't be used

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Will find the clip later. But I just wanted to bring up flex glove. Dying after being transmutated is game mechanics because obviously the devs can't leave someone there.

that dosen't nessesarly prove its game emchanics

And from my understanding the hunter was only able to resist transmuation due to it being overtime and them having a constant supply of blood. This is instant.

no its cause they can use willpower to just will themselves back to human if need be (looking at the supernatural willpower portion)

 

[Arkansalter2]

no its cause they can use willpower to just will themselves back to human if need be (looking at the supernatural willpower portion)

The Flex kills them and transmutes them at the same time. Can they will themselves back to normal after already being instantly transmuted?

 

[Thunderman101]

that dosen't nessesarly prove its game emchanics

no its cause they can use willpower to just will themselves back to human if need be (looking at the supernatural willpower portion)

It actually is game mechanics for the statue to deqspawn, in the flex banner we can see people who are transmutated have obviously been like that for a long time as there was enough time to make a throne out of them. Also rob can seal people with interdimensional travel as stated earlier

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Will respond to this more in a bit. Going to see Iron lung

 

[Thunderman101]

Also I am a bit confused on how the hunters immortality is different than slaps gauridanbangel immortality (which can be bypassed by gloves such as mail). Both are immortality that instantly bring the user back from death which is reliant on an outsider entity to do so. Recall In slap battles which rewinds time cannot bring back people who are dead so I don't see why this wouldn't work. Also transmutation does not kill the hunter and would likely work for reasons stated above

 

[Thunderman101]

Also I feel as if this was brought up but is hunters ID travel interdimensional, cause if he can't travel back to the battle feild after being sent to the center of the universe by error that's just gg.

 

[Thunderman101]

Also I feel as if this was brought up but is hunters ID travel interdimensional, cause if he can't travel back to the battle feild after being sent to the center of the universe by error that's just gg. Killstreak can also just steal the hunters soul (I don't know what resistance to soul manip he has I'll check later) If anyone decides to counter argue I'm gonna be offline so don't expect me to counter argue tommorow.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also I am a bit confused on how the hunters immortality is different than slaps gauridanbangel immortality (which can be bypassed by gloves such as mail). Both are immortality that instantly bring the user back from death which is reliant on an outsider entity to do so. Recall In slap battles which rewinds time cannot bring back people who are dead so I don't see why this wouldn't work. Also transmutation does not kill the hunter and would likely work for reasons stated above

Guardian Angel's resurrection is just resurrection. The Hunter's immortality is the entire timeline being rewound to the last point that The Hunter was alive.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also I feel as if this was brought up but is hunters ID travel interdimensional, cause if he can't travel back to the battle feild after being sent to the center of the universe by error that's just gg.

It is yes. He can also just force a resurrection with the Hunter's Mark to make time rewind

 

[Thunderman101]

It is yes. He can also just force a resurrection with the Hunter's Mark to make time rewind

Thanks for the clarification

 

[Thunderman101]

Also you said Hunter had resistance to soul manip but I can't find it on his profile. This is important because killstreak snatching his would would not only incap but keep him technically alive as his soul is still there so he can't rewind time. He should generally have the advantage as with his sould bank he can give himself kills up to ten

 

[Thunderman101]

I'll make a post summarizing slaps wincons soon

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also you said Hunter had resistance to soul manip but I can't find it on his profile. This is important because killstreak snatching his would would not only incap but keep him technically alive as his soul is still there so he can't rewind time. He should generally have the advantage as with his sould bank he can give himself kills up to ten

He does yes, he is completely unaffected by becoming a Bone Ash Hunter, wherein both his body and soul are completely incinerated

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Honestly not sure why thats not on his profile...

 

[Thunderman101]

Ok Heres all John Slaps Wincons

1.Sending The Hunter To Barzil With Mortis Glove (I know the real mortis has only been shown to do it but transforming into mortis should grant us all him abilites)
A thing i want to point about about slap battles teleportations is all your equipment is taken and your abilites are disabled, like john slap having immo type 2 and dying to land mines, so It could possibly disable the hunters teleportation, especiallly since trying to transport yourself from barzil to the min realm will cause chaos to rip you to shreads (not gonna give the link because if that does happen hunter will just revive so no point)

2. Transmutating the hunter with the flex, hitman bullet, or megarock.

Transmutatio like this wont nessecarily kill you, think of it like a fat buu transmutation, they can still think and conceive, but they cant move talk or use thier body. All their abilites are disabled too so no revives. The bodies dissapearing are counteracted by the fact the flex banner shows that the person holding had enough time to kill multiple people with it to make a throne of them

3. Stealing his soul with killstreak

I dont see the hunters real counter to this, stealing your soul is not the same as getting it destoryed and hed still technicaly be alive so no rewinding time. Also not on his profile.

4.Rob Sealing. Im not too sure about this one, the only person robs ever been shown to help the player seal is bob, but it should work especially since bob has shown interdimensional travel as hes able to travel from slap royale and etc. And its heavily implied if rob didnt interfere bob was going to escape and cause chos in the main realm in slap royale. Theres also the fact that rob, bobs direct clone, was able to somehow travel from slap royale to the dark realm.

they also have sevral incons like buddies, which makes it so they cant attack eachother, and can continue their trial and error by healing with el gato. I also firmly belive gloves like mail and null will kill hunter because when youse recall next to a dead body including ones killed by mail and null they wont come back to life.

He does yes, he is completely unaffected by becoming a Bone Ash Hunter, wherein both his body and soul are completely incinerated

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Honestly not sure why thats not on his profile...

wasnt there a rule where its not allowed if its not the profile. Also getting your soul destroyed is not the same as getting your soul stolen, thats association fallacy

 

[Thunderman101]

if none of these work i dont see how this isint a stomp because the player cant kill the hunter but the hunter has several ways to kill the player

 

[Thunderman101]

Ok Heres all John Slaps Wincons

1.Sending The Hunter To Barzil With Mortis Glove (I know the real mortis has only been shown to do it but transforming into mortis should grant us all him abilites)
A thing i want to point about about slap battles teleportations is all your equipment is taken and your abilites are disabled, like john slap having immo type 2 and dying to land mines, so It could possibly disable the hunters teleportation, especiallly since trying to transport yourself from barzil to the min realm will cause chaos to rip you to shreads (not gonna give the link because if that does happen hunter will just revive so no point)

2. Transmutating the hunter with the flex, hitman bullet, or megarock.

Transmutatio like this wont nessecarily kill you, think of it like a fat buu transmutation, they can still think and conceive, but they cant move talk or use thier body. All their abilites are disabled too so no revives. The bodies dissapearing are counteracted by the fact the flex banner shows that the person holding had enough time to kill multiple people with it to make a throne of them

3. Stealing his soul with killstreak

I dont see the hunters real counter to this, stealing your soul is not the same as getting it destoryed and hed still technicaly be alive so no rewinding time. Also not on his profile.

4.Rob Sealing. Im not too sure about this one, the only person robs ever been shown to help the player seal is bob, but it should work especially since bob has shown interdimensional travel as hes able to travel from slap royale and etc. And its heavily implied if rob didnt interfere bob was going to escape and cause chos in the main realm in slap royale. Theres also the fact that rob, bobs direct clone, was able to somehow travel from slap royale to the dark realm.

they also have sevral incons like buddies, which makes it so they cant attack eachother, and can continue their trial and error by healing with el gato. I also firmly belive gloves like mail and null will kill hunter because when youse recall next to a dead body including ones killed by mail and null they wont come back to life.

wasnt there a rule where its not allowed if its not the profile. Also getting your soul destroyed is not the same as getting your soul stolen, thats association fallacy

also forgot to metion this but bob can canonically transport other people to other realms so i dont see why he couldnt do it himself

:https://roblox-slap-battles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Eternal_BOB#Near_Phase_4

 

[Thunderman101]

@Delusionaltx2 @WeeklyBattles

 

[Thunderman101]

bump

 

[Deadguy999]

Have anyone talked about reverse yet? It is one of the gloves with the most potential in the game.
Also what are the several ways hunter can kill player? Since player can be invulnerable in several ways like mega rock etc

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Have anyone talked about reverse yet? It is one of the gloves with the most potential in the game.
Also what are the several ways hunter can kill player? Since player can be invulnerable in several ways like mega rock etc

Invulnerability as a power is currently being reworked, atm its lowkey treated as a NLF on-site when its basically just durability

But The Hunter has ways to bypass it anyways with stuff like the madness hax from the Bloodletter and the instant kill poison from Rapid Poison

 

[WeeklyBattles]

also forgot to metion this but bob can canonically transport other people to other realms so i dont see why he couldnt do it himself

:https://roblox-slap-battles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Eternal_BOB#Near_Phase_4

If he tries to travel to the Hunter's Dream he instantly dies from madness

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ok Heres all John Slaps Wincons

1.Sending The Hunter To Barzil With Mortis Glove (I know the real mortis has only been shown to do it but transforming into mortis should grant us all him abilites)
A thing i want to point about about slap battles teleportations is all your equipment is taken and your abilites are disabled, like john slap having immo type 2 and dying to land mines, so It could possibly disable the hunters teleportation, especiallly since trying to transport yourself from barzil to the min realm will cause chaos to rip you to shreads (not gonna give the link because if that does happen hunter will just revive so no point)

It wouldnt disable the Hunter's Mark, even when all equipment is disabled he keeps that in-game

2. Transmutating the hunter with the flex, hitman bullet, or megarock.https://roblox-slap-battles.fandom.com/wiki/MEGAROCK

Would just activate the resurrection. And requires contact, which The Hunter can very easily avoid.

Transmutatio like this wont nessecarily kill you, think of it like a fat buu transmutation, they can still think and conceive, but they cant move talk or use thier body. All their abilites are disabled too so no revives. The bodies dissapearing are counteracted by the fact the flex banner shows that the person holding had enough time to kill multiple people with it to make a throne of them

The problem is its not the Hunter's power, its the Moon Presence. He would have to null the Moon Presence itself in order to prevent the Hunter from resurrecting.

3. Stealing his soul with killstreak

I dont see the hunters real counter to this, stealing your soul is not the same as getting it destoryed and hed still technicaly be alive so no rewinding time. Also not on his profile.

Hunter can function with no soul, so having it stolen does not do anything to him. And Hunter can rewind time while alive, he does not need to be dead.

they also have sevral incons like buddies, which makes it so they cant attack eachother, and can continue their trial and error by healing with el gato.

Beckoning Bell and Shaman Bone Blade counter these

I also firmly belive gloves like mail and null will kill hunter because when youse recall next to a dead body including ones killed by mail and null they wont come back to life.

Hunter doesnt leave a body when he dies

 

[Thunderman101]

If he tries to travel to the Hunter's Dream he instantly dies from madness

not what i meant, i meant that as backup for rob being able to seal people who can travel to other realms

 

[Thunderman101]

It wouldnt disable the Hunter's Mark, even when all equipment is disabled he keeps that in-game

getting rid of equipment and power null are 2 different things

Would just activate the resurrection. And requires contact, which The Hunter can very easily avoid.

The problem is its not the Hunter's power, its the Moon Presence. He would have to null the Moon Presence itself in order to prevent the Hunter from resurrecting.

While this is true, the moon presence will not revive the hunter if theyre not dead, so stun locking would keep him under wraps. Also rewindg time around a flexed body wont make it dissapear.

Hunter can function with no soul, so having it stolen does not do anything to him. And Hunter can rewind time while alive, he does not need to be dead.

No scans, and souls stolen by killstreak will not be able to use abilites. I shouldve clarified that killstreak only steals souls when killing someone, so by stealing hunters soul when he kills him heel keep him alive and power nulled.

Hunter doesnt leave a body when he dies

game mechanics

 

[WeeklyBattles]

getting rid of equipment and power null are 2 different things

The Hunter's Mark isnt equipment, its his mind

While this is true, the moon presence will not revive the hunter if theyre not dead

They will yes, that is what the Hunter's Mark is

Also rewindg time around a flexed body wont make it dissapear.

It would yes, it would rewind time to a point before the Hunter became flexxed

No scans, and souls stolen by killstreak will not be able to use abilites.

I gave you the scans already

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I shouldve clarified that killstreak only steals souls when killing someone, so by stealing hunters soul when he kills him heel keep him alive and power nulled.

If he kills him he wont be able to steal his soul as time will rewind before he can do it

game mechanics

No? Its shown to function this way in the comics as well.

Also very bold to argue game mechanics when you could easily argue that 90% of the stuff youre arguing for the Player are just game mechanics.

 

[Thunderman101]

The Hunter's Mark isnt equipment, its his mind

They will yes, that is what the Hunter's Mark is

It would yes, it would rewind time to a point before the Hunter became flexxed

I gave you the scans already

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If he kills him he wont be able to steal his soul as time will rewind before he can do it

No? Its shown to function this way in the comics as well.

Also very bold to argue game mechanics when you could easily argue that 90% of the stuff youre arguing for the Player are just game mechanics.

youre missing my point entirley, the hunter will not be bale to use his abilites while he is flexed or in barzil because he is power nulled, even if the ability is in his mind its still going to not work as thats how power null works. To use the hunters mark he would have to not be power nulled. Im honestly confused on how youre interpeting this cause for me its pretty simpple

1.Hunter gets transmutated
2.Hunter is not dead just transmutated
3.Hunter tries to rewind time
4.It dosent work as he is power nulled (sAME THING GOES FOR BARZIL)

also you have completley ignored robs sealing capabilites that work against those with dimensional travel. Although it isint on the profiles since we are using hunters soul resistance which also isint on the profile i dont see why we cant

 

[Thunderman101]

It would yes, it would rewind time to a point before the Hunter became flexxed

in slap battles if u use recall next to a flex body like one second after they flexed and you rewinda couple seconds before they got flexed they stay flexxed

 

[WeeklyBattles]

youre missing my point entirley, the hunter will not be bale to use his abilites while he is flexed or in barzil because he is power nulled, even if the ability is in his mind its still going to not work as thats how power null works. To use the hunters mark he would have to not be power nulled. Im honestly confused on how youre interpeting this cause for me its pretty simpple

I think youre misunderstanding. The Hunter is not the one who rewinds time. The Moon Presence rewinds time. It can do so at any time, regardless of whether the Hunter is dead or not. You can null everything The Hunter has and it wouldnt get rid of the time rewind because its an entirely separate being rewinding time.

 

[Thunderman101]

I think youre misunderstanding. The Hunter is not the one who rewinds time. The Moon Presence rewinds time. It can do so at any time, regardless of whether the Hunter is dead or not. You can null everything The Hunter has and it wouldnt get rid of the time rewind because its an entirely separate being rewinding time.

just because it can, dosent mean it will, the moon presence from what i can understand only reiwnds time when the hunter is dead unless the hunter uses hunters mark, which in this case he cant use.