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Xen's town scaling down the drain(I have zero context of what's going on but I kinda understand why Shei's fully leaving the EXE community, especially with how toxic they are on twt)
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Sonic.exe ( Soulless Sonic | Sonic Prototype 2017 | Sonic II Gaiden ) General Discussion Thread
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I have an argument to make for more concrete evidence of 2-C (to possibly 2-B) Sonic.exe, regarding the post Joe made
At first glance for many, this would simply be a joke statement judging by the GIF Meme. However, upon further inspection, context wise- the gif was placed there to add a bit of humor to represent Lord X's mood after destroying the 6th billionth exe universe because he lost a in a game. Joe neither confirms nor denies the feat to be possible.
This feat could also be applicable by backtracking to the thread the post was attached to, it being mentioned that X doesn't like to influence other universes, which implies he could do such.
I believe this is also the reason that X isn't trying to merge his universe with ours since it isn't his goal and the reason I've displayed just now.
The idea of "influencing" other universes besides his own seems to be consistent for him and other VOID Entities/Beings (Bandado for instance), given the hypothetical scenario Raven made a while back for if X had entered Sonic's universe which is said to be the same as Weirdmageddon.
Another thing I'd like to point out is that EXE would be relative to this power as well by being capable of bending dimensions via both raw physical strength & reality-bending abilities (the latter he does in a more hands-on fashion since he isn't constantly changing his form while requiring concentration to do so), as well as the fact that this should still be canon and he can destroy his reality.
Lastly, even though cross verse scaling is invalid, it should be at least supported evidence due to Raven's hypothetical being Post-Forces/IDW (meaning most or all of the cast is 2-C at that point) and both X & EXE scaling above base Sonic according to Joe & Raven (The former requiring to be defeated by a new form, whereas the latter is comparable to that of the Titans from Frontiers).
So what do y'all think
At first glance for many, this would simply be a joke statement judging by the GIF Meme. However, upon further inspection, context wise- the gif was placed there to add a bit of humor to represent Lord X's mood after destroying the 6th billionth exe universe because he lost a in a game. Joe neither confirms nor denies the feat to be possible.
This feat could also be applicable by backtracking to the thread the post was attached to, it being mentioned that X doesn't like to influence other universes, which implies he could do such.
I believe this is also the reason that X isn't trying to merge his universe with ours since it isn't his goal and the reason I've displayed just now.
The idea of "influencing" other universes besides his own seems to be consistent for him and other VOID Entities/Beings (Bandado for instance), given the hypothetical scenario Raven made a while back for if X had entered Sonic's universe which is said to be the same as Weirdmageddon.
Another thing I'd like to point out is that EXE would be relative to this power as well by being capable of bending dimensions via both raw physical strength & reality-bending abilities (the latter he does in a more hands-on fashion since he isn't constantly changing his form while requiring concentration to do so), as well as the fact that this should still be canon and he can destroy his reality.
Lastly, even though cross verse scaling is invalid, it should be at least supported evidence due to Raven's hypothetical being Post-Forces/IDW (meaning most or all of the cast is 2-C at that point) and both X & EXE scaling above base Sonic according to Joe & Raven (The former requiring to be defeated by a new form, whereas the latter is comparable to that of the Titans from Frontiers).
So what do y'all think
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I'd also like to know if this can perhaps be utilized for Type 5 Immortality to be added in VOID Physiology
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Technically that would just be a Low 2-C feat but again, if there's no real confirmation then I don't think this should really be usable.
Also I can't find what the original posts said.
I'll be sure to include this in the CRT thread since this was a talking point and definitely is something we could use to upgrade the verse, but the counter-argument that comes is that "bending the dimensions he inhabits" could just be a statement about him being able to reality warp. The other statement does give more clarity and it theoretically could be used to give UES properties to EXE specifically if X reaches Tier 2.
I'm mostly neutral on this statement but I agree on EXE scaling to X's level.
The problem is this would be supporting evidence for 12-Universe 2-C/1-C (apparently what Game Sonic is tiered at nowadays), which is not what the joke statement implies either.
Yeah that's an easy add.
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I think I missed a few post of the QNA I'm just gonna put these here
(IDK if this means anything I'ma just leave this here)
(IDK if this means anything I'ma just leave this here)
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I would like to mention that it is technically flat-out suggested that X's reality is in fact a universe by the way the statement is worded "doesn't like to influence other universes" (besides his own)
Still, I do suppose that we should hold off on Tier 2 for a bit until there's enough information
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Other universes in that case usually refers to other EXE continuities, Joe is mostly consistent with that since the context is about people wanting official X crossovers.
Him being canonically aware of alternate universes is fully accepted and used on the profile though.
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Going to make some sandboxes for EXE and include them in the CRT since we have a lot of information about him at the moment.
This one's going to need a lot of discussion from everybody since it dives into Tier 2 upgrades, and that's not really a patch that can be added to the profiles easily.
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Is there anything from nonexistent physiology that can be added to the VOID physiology page
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I would have said Original PC Port since it has a whole line about how X was never meant to exist, but that's no longer canon until we get a statement on it
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cOMIC WIL BE EVENTUALLY COMING
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Well more so that progress on their script it getting more and more complete unless joe already sent the finished comic to the VA's to voice so when he ready he will edit them but who knows just guardain comics are coming along and due to his mention of teasing more content due to stuff being push back who knows what we will get
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I believe we have confirmation for it
UAV’s name might’ve also been figured out
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As much as I would want to use this, we sort of need official confirmation to apply it to the profile (which we probably will get soon).
I think the actual name was 5 letters but that would be hilarious if people unintentionally leaked it before the comic was even in production
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There are other sources that directly reference X’s origins from og PC Port with at least some involvement from Joe
Sinister Minds (which utilizes canon material)
Are You Listening
And more acknowledgment:
Sinister Minds (which utilizes canon material)
Are You Listening
And more acknowledgment:
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This still doesn't give an answer really, just that X is mysterious.
But I do think that lore bit will make it into the new PC Port game, I'd just rather have actual clarification before applying it to profiles.
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Gotcha then, noted
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A bit of a small discovery I made when looking at the comics again: X's world has a sun.
Considering we see areas that have both day and evening, this should be enough proof that the high tiers would scale to this.
Considering we see areas that have both day and evening, this should be enough proof that the high tiers would scale to this.
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Check Joe’s Blusky and YT community tab 
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Strawpage time
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That’s all for now
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Greg
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fun fact: that whole super sonic neutral thing, from a power standpoint don't make sense
positive chaos energy has always been stronger than negative, it'd just be an intermediate between dark and super sonic
at least in that way we know it's probably not related to actual power
positive chaos energy has always been stronger than negative, it'd just be an intermediate between dark and super sonic
at least in that way we know it's probably not related to actual power
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maybe it’s something similar to Dark Gaia and Light Gaia(?) We may be given more information about this form in the future
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I feel like people in the west always get Chaos Energy wrong, there is no "positive" and "negative" duality attached to it in the original script, that was entirely a dubbing error.
CE is the same energy in general, but it's powered by one's strong emotions (joy, anger, sadness, etc). Positive emotions are stronger than negative ones, which is why Super Sonic is stronger than Perfect Chaos.
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Another guess of mine is probably what El_rapero said as well as a comment in Blusky who proposed that "finding the balance between negative and positive energy" had more to do with another perspective that isn't power, or in this case emotions
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this isn't that related to powerscaling but i find that balancing positive and negative emotions specifically for X makes a lot of sense
because with X we actually get to see in a much bigger scope the complete depravity of itself, how irredeemable it is and how much harm it's caused in its victims
that being the case, the negative emotions are needed to righfully punish a monster like X with the needed cruelty for someone as cruel as it is, while the positive emotions are needed to help those in need and raise the hopes of the people that once thought they'd never be themselves again
it sort of reminds me of the two faces of Relational Egalitarianism as a form of justice, in which negatively it stands against social relationships involving opression, subordination, etcetera, and positively it regards for a society where people treat each other as equals. Of course, both taking a more "Heroic" view. (Not to call sonic a "hero" but it's the closest i can get to it)
it would make the "balance between positive and negative" make more sense since it's not from a power standpoint anymore and take a deeper meaning
because with X we actually get to see in a much bigger scope the complete depravity of itself, how irredeemable it is and how much harm it's caused in its victims
that being the case, the negative emotions are needed to righfully punish a monster like X with the needed cruelty for someone as cruel as it is, while the positive emotions are needed to help those in need and raise the hopes of the people that once thought they'd never be themselves again
it sort of reminds me of the two faces of Relational Egalitarianism as a form of justice, in which negatively it stands against social relationships involving opression, subordination, etcetera, and positively it regards for a society where people treat each other as equals. Of course, both taking a more "Heroic" view. (Not to call sonic a "hero" but it's the closest i can get to it)
it would make the "balance between positive and negative" make more sense since it's not from a power standpoint anymore and take a deeper meaning
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Well said my friend, perfect analogy
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If or when we do get nonexistent physiology added to the VOID physiology page, then would that also be able to upgrade high regen to low godly or are there other requirements for that to happen
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Canon is gone, I repeat, canon is gone!
(Also we got Alan's full name now)
(Also we got Alan's full name now)
