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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Dagoth_OwO said:
You are aware that the Kaioshin Realm exists within U7, right?
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I thought it orbited it though
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Dagoth_OwO said:
Pretty sure the macrocosm model is no longer used to scale the cosmology, but regardless, it still exists as a part of U7
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I see. Well if thats the case, and it exists on the edge of the universe, how is one infinite and one not?
 
Toei has not bulma's anti feat statement.

Also like this infinite universe discussion is getting extremely boring omg. Why do we bring this discussion every week.
 
Mbpoops said:
I see i see so its not infinetly expansive in toei just infinite got it

Might be my bad. I was arguing with a friend and wanted to clarify dbs universe was finite
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Nah you good 👍, it's just that this entire topic is incredibly boring when you see it getting discussed repeatedly with no new arguments getting discussed (because there is nothing left more to argue, it's all repetition of same stuff). It's becoming painful to see it.
 
RoninSlayer200 said:
Nah you good 👍, it's just that this entire topic is incredibly boring when you see it getting discussed repeatedly with no new arguments getting discussed (because there is nothing left more to argue, it's all repetition of same stuff). It's becoming painful to see it.
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Nah i get it lmao 😭😭
 
Dagoth_OwO said:
Assuming the edge scan is real (actual source would be nice), Kaioshin Realm is stated to exist in another dimension so it's contradicted. Also Toei doesn't have Bulma's shenanigans like Ronin said
Dagoth_OwO said:
That....doesn't really change anything
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Term "the universe" in daizenshu was listed as only a living wolrd. And the statement in the site was talking about the edge of the universe, so meaning it exist. Saying "it's contradicted" can be applied to DBS too cuz in Daizenshu it was stated numeros times about infinite size of the universe(and in DBZ there were none statements)
 
RoninSlayer200 said:
Toei has not bulma's anti feat statement.

Also like this infinite universe discussion is getting extremely boring omg. Why do we bring this discussion every week.
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Since when character's opinion is beyond verse's statements? It was stated in anime that Kaioshin realm exist in the universe(U7 was a term only in Super, so it's a mortal universe) and the official site states it's on the edge, so why it should differs from each other(DBS in finite and Toei isn't because...idk)
 
Mgebrat282 said:
Since when character's opinion is beyond verse's statements? It was stated in anime that Kaioshin realm exist in the universe(U7 was a term only in Super, so it's a mortal universe) and the official site states it's on the edge, so why it should differs from each other(DBS in finite and Toei isn't because...idk)
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Idk, people gas up Bulma like she is omnisicient. Her statement about the universe counts as anti-feat whether we like it or not. This is one of the main reasons DBS uni isn't infinite.
 
RoninSlayer200 said:
Idk, people gas up Bulma like she is omnisicient. Her statement about the universe counts as anti-feat whether we like it or not. This is one of the main reasons DBS uni isn't infinite.
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I just linked a video about why infinite universe can has an edge, so why it can't be applied to DBS?
 
When it comes to "anti-feats" for Toei cosmology from anime and official sources: Actually, it's contradicted in other sources, so nuh-huh.
When it comes to "anti-feats" for DBS cosmology from anime: Bulma is omniscient and other sources, including Daizenshu, are lies and hyperboles.
 
I want to know your opinion on this matter, what do you think about having Zamasua in his profile ← Conceptual Manipulation & Void, Beyond-Dimensional Existence [Type 1] & Nonexistence (Nature Type 1, Aspects Type 2 {Concept} & 5 {Other: History & Space-Time};

Infinite Zamasu has become one with the entire Super Time Line all the way to other Super Time Lines and this gives him at least Void, Beyond-Dimensional Existence [Type 1] & Nonexistence (Nature Type 1, Aspects Type 2 {Concept} & 5 {Other: History & Space-Time}; because he has merged with it as well, I mean the Void World etc. and with the Super Time Line and everything in it and will enjoy conceptual manipulation due to his merging With everything and the timeline making him one with the concepts themselves, at least he would be able to change and erase concepts within the entire scope because he was already fused with them.
 
Mgebrat282 said:
I just linked a video about why infinite universe can has an edge, so why it can't be applied to DBS?
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The video doesn't say that. It just explains how you can technically map and "find" a border to an infinite universe, but that's from a purely mathematical point of view. Said universe still wouldn't have a physical edge.
 
It's kinda piss me off how GayTea fans are glazing their mid-tier while trying to downgrade DBS with all their might
 
Mgebrat282 said:
Term "the universe" in daizenshu was listed as only a living wolrd.
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So? Keep in mind all the times Buu was stated to be a threat to the universe which included the Afterlife. Context matters.
Mgebrat282 said:
And the statement in the site was talking about the edge of the universe, so meaning it exist
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I checked the link and it's literally an episode summary for DBZ Kai, not the original Toei anime so it doesn't even apply to the Toei anime continuity
 
Mgebrat282 said:
50/50, theoreticaly it can.
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It generally can't. Current understanding of cosmology and topological hard disagrees with infinite universe having edge or center.

In fact, you can genuinely argue that even a finite universe can be finite and have no edge.

Mgebrat282 said:
Should I make a CRT about infinite universe in DBS?
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Do you have PhD in Physics? If yes, you may. If no, I personally think you shouldn't because it's gonna be a headache and likely be +10 page CRT. Genuinely not worth.
 
Mgebrat282 said:
Term "the universe" in daizenshu was listed as only a living wolrd. And the statement in the site was talking about the edge of the universe, so meaning it exist. Saying "it's contradicted" can be applied to DBS too cuz in Daizenshu it was stated numeros times about infinite size of the universe(and in DBZ there were none statements)
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the Kaioshin realm is outside of the macrocosm, so the edge of the universe referring to the dimensional wall, unless you want to say the Kaioshin realm is within the living world

The problem isn't the edge, infinite in fiction can have edge/end to go "outside", the issue with DBS is a center

Also the Kanji in the site is 果て, which either mean Edge or End
 
Vietthai96 said:
the Kaioshin realm is outside of the macrocosm, so the edge of the universe referring to the dimensional wall, unless you want to say the Kaioshin realm is within the living world

The problem isn't the edge, infinite in fiction can have edge/end to go "outside", the issue with DBS is a center

Also the Kanji in the site is 果て, which either mean Edge or End
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Why an infinite universe can't have a center? In math you can multiplie infinity by 2 and you can draw an abstractly infinite universe and point it at the center
 
Killerdrone123 said:
GT

Honestly idk what he is talking about given most GT supporters here are also dbs supporters
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I read a GT canonicity page...that's illogical, almost every movie, especially Fusion reborn that was pointed in that blog, just can't happen. Should I make a CRT about it?
 
No. Because movies, especially fusion reborn, had to happen because vegeta knows about the fusion dance
 
Mbpoops said:
No. Because movies, especially fusion reborn, had to happen because vegeta knows about the fusion dance
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Vegeta never said that he knew how to do a fusion dance before, that could be just a plot like when a character is weaker for a plot than he really is.
 
Mgebrat282 said:
Vegeta never said that he knew how to do a fusion dance before, that could be just a plot like when a character is weaker for a plot than he really is.
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Vegeta doesnt need to say “i know how to do the fusion dance” for him to know how to do it. The fact he got ssj4, went to goku and said “lets fuse” the performed the fusion dance perfectly should be evidence enough that fusion reborn did happen
 
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