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Izuku Midoriya (Deku) Vs Lord Boros (My Hero Academia Vs One-Punch Man)

What speed downgrade are you on about
TheRustyOne has a valid concern about the way we thought Fa Jin worked and also some huge speed changes are underway (involving travel and combat speed, also from TheRusty).
 
Oh that. Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s to separate their combat speed from their travel speed due to their travel speed being slower than their combat.

Ok so you’re good. So it’s deadass just Robo that thought Deku’s current profile had a 5x multiplier to his speed the entire time.
 
No i didn't
i never said anything like that
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Leave robo alone >:(
Never
 
Since discussion was had assuming Boros started in Meteoric Burst before the OP was edited, should we do the same for his AP?

Because without Fa Jin's 5x AP, Deku is at even more of a disadvantage.
 
Since discussion was had assuming Boros started in Meteoric Burst before the OP was edited, should we do the same for his AP?

Because without Fa Jin's 5x AP, Deku is at even more of a disadvantage.
No because it’s still on his profile until it’s addressed In a CRT.

im literally quoting the MHA general discussion thread, not whats on deku's profile

give up castorice
“Ever mentioned the existence of a 5x multiplier on Deku’s current profile”

Robo: Here

Also Hobo: “Not my fault yall kept implying a 5x speed amp multiplier or something ridiculous”

Yeah sure buddy.
 
From what I understand Borris FRA via superior heat resistance (from surviving his own aura)
His heat temperature not only isn’t accepted or on his profile, but it’s faulty. Just cause it’s stronger than other materials on earth (with STEEL being the main thing it’s compared to), doesn’t mean it’s melting point is higher, let alone randomly comparable to Tungsten. Also Kachon can’t even show how the ship descended, since it suddenly appeared in Earth’s atmosphere via Jump Technology, whatever that means.

So the ship has no feats of heat resistance that can be pulled from to make Boros’s own heat attacks actually impressive compared to Deku’s resistance.
 
Now the thread is going off the rails, and it seems Izuku is getting a downgrade, so I'll hold my vote until the CTR is over.
 
Has Izuku's CRT already been made? Because if not, it's better to wait, since the thread has become a mess and some arguments may no longer be used... As far as I know, certain aspects of Izuku's profile seem to be undergoing a downgrade.
 
Has Izuku's CRT already been made? Because if not, it's better to wait, since the thread has become a mess and some arguments may no longer be used... As far as I know, certain aspects of Izuku's profile seem to be undergoing a downgrade.
it's just fa jin being a 5x amp. there's no crt, and there's no confirmation of a crt even being planned.
 
it's just fa jin being a 5x amp. there's no crt, and there's no confirmation of a crt even being planned.
Mach is right, TheRustyOne is probably too busy with travel speed changes (which probably won't affect this match much).

The match can continue.
 
Deku's Danger Sense allows him to gauge how dangerous an individual is to him, so nothing stops Deku from wearing Boros down with shockwaves or Air Force blasts from afar.

That's how Deku was able to fight Shigaraki for over 20 minutes, despite Shigaraki's attacks being extremely dangerous to him and having immense range, while avoiding all of them.
 
Boros’s heat Aura doesn’t exist, it’s not accepted on his profile, and the level of heat he can manage is undefined. At best he is superior to melting steel, which is far below Deku’s resistance.

The argument for 6000 c is that his ship has a higher melting point than tungsten, which is completely inaccurate. Being tougher than earth metals, specifically being stated as much stronger than steel, does not mean it has a melting point beyond anything on Earth. So 6000 c is just wrong + it’s not accepted.

The argument for 9672 c is that his ship survived entering the atmosphere, with the assumption being it fell and experienced the full heat of entry. This isn’t accurate because Boros’s ship just suddenly appeared in atmosphere via Jump Technology, which implies a capability of teleportation or some other way of entering a planets atmosphere that is not experiencing the heat of entry. So it’s wrong + not accepted.

So Boros’s “heat aura” that prevents Deku from punching him is just not a thing. Deku should be fully capable of punching Boros.

The fight should start off with Boros going to hit Deku, who dodges because that’s what he would immediately do. Boros has now spent his energy massively, as Meteoric Burst takes a lot of energy from him, to the point a punch and a kick are enough to severely tire him.

Since Deku can tell the power difference by how much Danger Sense goes off, he would likely immediately go for Gearshift, resulting in him horrendously blitzing Boros. However, Boros can regenerate, so Deku will not make much headway. He can, however, tire Boros by doing one of the first things he did when he activated Gearshift: bait Boros into throwing another punch, activate Low Gear to dodge it, then go back to hitting him. This will mean Boros has spent two attacks failing to hit Deku, so his stamina is already nearly gone.

By this point, Deku and the Vestiges will notice that Boros is getting tired and that he can’t keep this up, so they’ll press the attack to keep hitting him. Boros will obviously then try to destroy the planet, but he will be unable to charge the CSRC because he keeps getting punched and kicked. Deku can then sense the massive energy Boros keeps trying to gather, and since Boros has regen he can’t deal with, the only way to stop Boros would be to sacrifice a Quirk and destroy his soul.

Deku has no ties to Boros, Boros is as strong or stronger than Shigaraki, Boros has better regen, and he has a capability to destroy the planet. Deku going for Soul Destruction the moment Boros starts charging (and, more than likely, announces that he is going to destroy the world because Deku is a worthy opponent he wants to destroy) is basically a guarantee. This is literally the Shigaraki scenario except Deku can’t charge enough power do completely destroy Boros, so he has to go for the Soul Destruction.
 
Kingofwolves999 arguments make sense, I'm voting for Deku FRA.
 
If we're starting with Meteoric Burst, i don't think Boros stands a chance at all.

Lasting more than the opponent isn't possible(And i'm just including Gearshift's time here, not even overall), massive speed and AP disadvantage + Danger Sense. Deku's current profile value allows him to take on Boros's no value heat attacks as well (Deku's 5000 celcius is wrong imo but eh :d).

Even CSRC isn't really usable as he doesn't seem to be capable of even starting it against Deku since blitz + 5x AP etc. (As Deku isn't Saitama who'll just wait, lol)

Regeneration isn't really usable nor makes a difference here as well. This form of Boros uses massive amount of internal energy. Getting blitzed + regenerating endlessly in a form that takes up huge energy by itself is a dead end.
 
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Deku can also bind Boros with Blackwhip and his way higher LS while he is attacking him with Gearshift, like he did Shigaraki. So Boros, after losing his stamina, is also going to be unable to move while still getting punched in the face, stuck in a form that is constantly draining his stamina. After Deku avoids his punch via his superior intelligence and Gearshift shenanigans, he could easily just bind Boros and keep punching him so he never has a chance to charge the CSRC and just loses via stamina.

But even if that’s not a viable option (I don’t see how it isn’t unless Boros can endure Meteoric Burst for 10+ minutes AFTER throwing two attacks), it just goes right back to Soul Destruction.

And I have a strange feeling that Boros constantly trying to charge the CSRC, only to get punched out of it again and again, is going to tax his stamina even more, to the point I doubt he could even attempt to charge it several times before he is completely exhausted.
 
Okay, let's continue.

Boros:
Advantages:
  • Heat Aura
  • AP/Dura Advantage
  • Regeneration
  • One-shot with CRSC
  • Moon Kick makes BFR on Izuku
Disadvantages:
  • Not skilled enough to hit Izuku with the stamina he has in this mode
  • Heat Aura might not be hot enough to protect him from Izuku's attacks
  • Much lower stamina
  • Moon Kick or any other attack won't hit Izuku because of Danger Sense
  • Izuku would one-shot Boros with Soul Manip before he could fire, at most costing Izuku an arm if Heat Aura is hot enough

Izuku:
Advantages:
  • Fa Jin and Gearshift scale far above Boros' Dura
  • One-shot with Soul Manipulation
  • Blitz when using his other quirks
  • Danger Sense kind of prevents Izuku from being hit, even the sneak attacks Boros sometimes performs are useless
  • Stamina
  • LS Superior
  • Low Gear
Disadvantages:
  • Normal attacks wouldn't cause enough damage to Boros to require regeneration.
  • Fajin and Gearshift alone wouldn't cause enough damage to kill Boros, perhaps not even enough to force much regeneration.

Note: It's a shame the speed difference between Released and Meteoric Burst is so large... Shouldn't Released Boros scale above Geryuganshoop in this regard?


I'm going to vote for Izuku here, man. Boros' best argument is the Heat Aura, and even if it works, it would need a CTR to add to Boros' profile... Besides, his profile needs a review.
 
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Deku with flight and higher LS shouldnt really have to worry about moon bfr
plus he could just jump back
 
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Even if Deku loses 5x Fa Jin, he still scales far higher with charging the kinetic energy. It would just now scale to “one shots people on his level, capable of charging to the point of obliterating them without a trace remaining.”

He doesn’t even need to force regen that much, all Deku needs is to draw a singular drop of blood from Boros to destroy his soul. And he can use Blackwhip to stab/form claws. So the 5x isn’t even necessary, he just needs to be able to do any amount of damage at all that can draw even the slightest amount of blood.
 
Deku can also bind Boros with Blackwhip and his way higher LS while he is attacking him with Gearshift, like he did Shigaraki. So Boros, after losing his stamina, is also going to be unable to move while still getting punched in the face, stuck in a form that is constantly draining his stamina. After Deku avoids his punch via his superior intelligence and Gearshift shenanigans, he could easily just bind Boros and keep punching him so he never has a chance to charge the CSRC and just loses via stamina.

But even if that’s not a viable option (I don’t see how it isn’t unless Boros can endure Meteoric Burst for 10+ minutes AFTER throwing two attacks), it just goes right back to Soul Destruction.

And I have a strange feeling that Boros constantly trying to charge the CSRC, only to get punched out of it again and again, is going to tax his stamina even more, to the point I doubt he could even attempt to charge it several times before he is completely exhausted.
Frankly, even containing Boros with Black Whip and beating him with Gearshift + Fa Jin wouldn't cause enough damage to stop Boros from charging the CRSC since he has a good pain tolerance, but anyway, Izuku would one-shot him with soul manipulation, even if he lost a Quirk in the process.
 
Looking at Izuku's profile, he has the ability to slow down any target he touches. If we reduce Boros to Released, and Izuku counters Boros with Black Whip and reduces its speed, then when Boros becomes MB the difference wouldn't be as overwhelming. Even so, ideally Released would be Relativistic+, with MB being a simple scaling chain Blitz.
 
Okay, let's continue.

Boros:
  • Heat Aura
  • AP/Dura Advantage
  • Regeneration
  • One-shot with CRSC
  • Moon Kick makes BFR on Izuku
  • Not skilled enough to hit Izuku with the stamina he has in this mode
  • Heat Aura might not be hot enough to protect him from Izuku's attacks
  • Much lower stamina
  • Moon Kick or any other attack won't hit Izuku because of Danger Sense
  • Izuku would one-shot Boros with Soul Manip before he could fire, at most costing Izuku an arm if Heat Aura is hot enough

Izuku:
  • Fa Jin and Gearshift scale far above Boros' Dura
  • One-shot with Soul Manipulation
  • Blitz when using his other quirks
  • Danger Sense kind of prevents Izuku from being hit, even the sneak attacks Boros sometimes performs are useless
  • Stamina
  • LS Superior
  • Normal attacks wouldn't cause enough damage to Boros to require regeneration.
  • Fajin and Gearshift alone wouldn't cause enough damage to kill Boros, perhaps not even enough to force much regeneration.

Note: It's a shame the speed difference between Released and Meteoric Burst is so large... Shouldn't Released Boros scale above Geryuganshoop in this regard?


I'm going to vote for Izuku here, man. Boros' best argument is the Heat Aura, and even if it works, it would need a CTR to add to Boros' profile... Besides, his profile needs a review.
forgetting low gear for deku...
 
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