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Muzan Kibutsuji vs Ryomen Sukuna [9-24-0]

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loool i did not expect to come back to this 😭
i assumed the previous matchups were just removed cause stat changes
if jjk supps generally agree than Sukuna just gets victimized, i can switch the matchup to someone with more agenda a stronger case behind them
Can we get Yuta Okkotsu Vs Ken Kaneki instead
 
as kny supporter i think its fine, but you should unequalize the speed because at the moment there's nothing muzan can do against a WCS
Sukuna apparently might not even be able to handle Muzan without equalization lol
 
Can't Sukuna use Nue to get out of range, a few dismantles should also be enough to distrupt Muzans flow of attack, no?
Muzan can use thigh whips to instantly increase the speed of his attacks into a blitz amp capable of blitzing the 7 Hashiras jumping him and knocking them out. Dont know how he could easily escape since they're just gonna be fighting inside of the Infinity Fortress for the 4th time

Spatial Manipulation & BFR (By controlling Nakime remotely, he can freely control the entire Infinity Fortress Dimension and trap others into it. Manipulated the Infinity Fortress in order for Tanjiro to fall to his death and blocked him off. Pushed Sanemi and Obanai out of the Infinity Fortress)

Teleportation (By controlling Nakime remotely, he can teleport himself or Demons into, across, or teleport them outside of the Infinity Fortress) Portal Creation (By controlling Nakime remotely, he can summon portals in various different form such as a tatami sliding door that can spawn in any direction or giant gateways)

Gravity Manipulation (By controlling Nakime remotely, he can manipulate the gravity for individual beings inside of the Infinity Fortress)

Limited Telekinesis (By controlling Nakime remotely, he can make objects in the Infinity Fortress hover in mid-air)
 
I’ll see how laser elaborates on innate domain saving Sukuna from being sleep maniped or whatever.
But if Sukuna does fall asleep even for a little bit.
Even if he would realize he’s dreaming it doesn’t matter. By the time he realizes he needs to die in the dream Muzan biohaxed him into mush.
 
does sukuna resist or counter the paralysis from muzan's shockwaves? that might just get him an insta win
 
Sukuna's reactions should allow him to counterattack those thigh whips, considering it is simply about a 2x speed difference slightly in favor of Muzan. And if they do end up landing, Sukuna's RCT should allow him to recover or he can reinforce his arms with more cursed energy to tank it (hope I didn't go off the rails with that one).

Sukuna also would not be prone to any spatial or gravity mixing shenanigans with Nue. If anything, he can deploy Mahoraga to begin adapting against Muzan's attacks.
 
i dont see a place for mahoraga in here. he's either getting teleported to the other end of the infinity castle or BFR'd into the human world.
 
I'll just vote for whatever gets the match over quicker tbh 😭

I do not feel like debating for 20 pages only for the match to be removed not long after due to DS nukes.
 
Sukuna's reactions should allow him to counterattack those thigh whips, considering it is simply about a 2x speed difference slightly in favor of Muzan. And if they do end up landing, Sukuna's RCT should allow him to recover or he can reinforce his arms with more cursed energy to tank it (hope I didn't go off the rails with that one).
Yeah, essentially reaction speed is for short movements, and not prolonged ones like throwing punches or weaving punches in close quarters. It would be more like ducking one punch or flipping out of the way of an attack, but being unable to act beyond that. Sukuna's reaction speed feat is being able to point, chant, and fire his WCS as Kashimo's EMW was heading towards him. So in close quarters he's cooked if he has to avoid anything beyond a single blow against someone much faster than him in combat speed (Hypersonic)
Muzan also has like over a dozen bone whips that can all be increased into a blitz amp

Sukuna would either end up decapitated by a single attack because his bone tentacles are all as sharp as a sword, or Muzan's bio blood hax will just one shot and kill Sukuna because all of his attacks are imbued with his blood. A small drop of blood is enough to kill people.

Muzan would not be able to see Mahoraga due to the physiology of Shikigami.
This was already argued before. Muzan, (and now the other demons because theyre all here) can sense the Ten Shadows with Extrasensory Perception. (Something also agreed upon by @LaserPrecision)

Sukuna also would not be prone to any spatial or gravity mixing shenanigans with Nue. If anything, he can deploy Mahoraga to begin adapting against Muzan's attacks.
And then Mahoraga just gets BFR'd out of the Infinity Fortress while sukuna gets jumped by like 30 Demons.
 
There likely needs to be a discussion rule about Shikigami and curses in versus matchups. If the opponent is not born as a Jujutsu sorcerer, they cannot see or harm them, which is ridiculous.
 
Sukuna's reactions should allow him to counterattack those thigh whips, considering it is simply about a 2x speed difference slightly in favor of Muzan.
significantly greater than 2x, but sukuna would still struggle to dodge or block an entire barrage of those attacks since his combat speed wouldn't keep up with constant bombardments by shockwave bullets, moon blades, blood blades, and ice attacks from all sides.

And if they do end up landing, Sukuna's RCT should allow him to recover or he can reinforce his arms with more cursed energy to tank it (hope I didn't go off the rails with that one).
can sukuna survive the bio hax from muzan's blood? all his attacks are laced with it.


Muzan would not be able to see Mahoraga due to the physiology of Shikigami.
Akaza would be able to detect his battle spirit and warn the others, and i'd be willing to bet the others could feel the vibrations in the air from mahoraga's movements with their enhanced senses.
 
I'll just vote for whatever gets the match over quicker tbh 😭

I do not feel like debating for 20 pages only for the match to be removed not long after due to DS nukes.
dont worry, those downgrades are NEVER happening (seriously its been like 6 months)
 
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They all exist in this fight. Kokushibo's Danmaku and range is even more than Muzan's.
 
Muzan also has like over a dozen bone whips that can all be increased into a blitz amp

Sukuna would either end up decapitated by a single attack because his bone tentacles are all as sharp as a sword, or Muzan's bio blood hax will just one shot and kill Sukuna because all of his attacks are imbued with his blood. A small drop of blood is enough to kill people.
If Sukuna just fires a WCS he can just erase the attack and Muzan without having to evade it too tbf :p
There likely needs to be a discussion rule about Shikigami and curses in versus matchups. If the opponent is not born as a Jujutsu sorcerer, they cannot see or harm them, which is ridiculous.
This seems like trying to argue stands should be visible and tangible to everyone in crossverse match-ups. Which just kinda... seems weird and effectively makes their physiology pointless.
dont worry, those downgrades are NEVER happening (seriously its been like 6 months)
I can't say soon or anything, but it will happen. Smth else is coming before it but I can certainly say it's coming.
 
If Sukuna just fires a WCS he can just erase the attack and Muzan without having to evade it too tbf :p
Kokushibo or Akaza are precoging that and pushing muzan aside.

I can't say soon or anything, but it will happen. Smth else is coming before it but I can certainly say it's coming.
oh, i bet. i'll probably be senile by then, but i'm sure it'll come out some time.
 
you'd have to verse equalize battle spirit and CE to do that which doesn't really work
I love how we’re perfectly fine giving everyone cursed energy crossverse but against it for Akaza’s abilities to work even though he stated that everyone including Infants have battle spirit and that Tanjiro is practically the equivalent to a Heavenly Restriction user bypassing it.
 
Sukuna can deploy dozens of cleaves to shear those whips down if he wants to without even making any gestures. He also resists poisons to a great extent, which should help him resist the effects of Muzan's blood if it ever comes to dealing with it. Fair point on the Mahoraga counters though.
In all that direct chaos, I do not see why he cannot zip away with Nue and deploy his domain. He is fully capable of countering everyone there with Dismantle, which would pretty much allow for a swift escape. Does Sukuna also have Kamutoke here? as it should serve as an effective quick use area of effect stun as well. I explained the biology aspect with Cast, but fair point on the Mahoraga points as well.
 
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