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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Huesito88 said:
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"Piccolo upscale"
Don't screw with us DB fans! We don't read!
Let's see Gohan Beast vs Cell Max without Gamma 2 weakening Cell Max, no one destroying his wings, no one holding him in place, no one stopping him from blocking the Special Beam Cannon, zero time for Gohan to charge his Ki and see if he does any better than Orange Piccolo. I'm willing to bet he's dying pretty quickly.

The entire point of the fight is that it's a team effort. Gohan going Beast doesn't suddenly nullify that. Hell, the point is strengthened by him needing Piccolo, 18, Krillin, Gamma 1, Goten and Trunks lining the shot up for him (Holding him in place, shattering his wings, knocking his hand aside so he can't counter, holding his head firmly in place).

If Orange Piccolo had a senzu bean and Gohan Beast didn't have time to charge his Ki beforehand, their asses would be about equal. End of story.
 
CryoTheMayo said:
"Piccolo upscale"
Don't screw with us DB fans! We don't read!
Let's see Gohan Beast vs Cell Max without Gamma 2 weakening Cell Max, no one destroying his wings, no one holding him in place, no one stopping him from blocking the Special Beam Cannon, zero time for Gohan to charge his Ki and see if he does any better than Orange Piccolo. I'm willing to bet he's dying pretty quickly.

The entire point of the fight is that it's a team effort. Gohan going Beast doesn't suddenly nullify that. Hell, the point is strengthened by him needing Piccolo, 18, Krillin, Gamma 1, Goten and Trunks lining the shot up for him (Holding him in place, shattering his wings, knocking his hand aside so he can't counter, holding his head firmly in place).

If Orange Piccolo had a senzu bean and Gohan Beast didn't have time to charge his Ki beforehand, their asses would be about equal. End of story.
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Cell Max solos Gohan Beast, Broly, UE Vegeta, Orange Piccolo, UI Goku all the same time if Hedo didn't give him a weak point ong.
I believe Broly would lose to Orange Piccolo in a fight as well. He's underrated as **** and so is Cell Max. The manga made him cracked as hell.
 
Ok so I'm looking at the DBS speed calc and see that 118.25 sextillion c end have been crossed due to the CRT which made the universe models used to get said ends unviable.

If that's the case... why does the DBS Anime blogs still use it?
 
If we consider cosmology of DB as the same, shouldn't timeline manipulation be law, logic, etc manipulation for characters like Hit in DBS?
 
The Grand Priest in Dragon Ball Heroes should be granted Logic Manipulation because he can erase logic as mentioned here ↓

Void Erasure (Nature Type 1, Aspects 2 [Concept] and 5 [Others: history, spacetime, causality, fate, probability, law, and logic]).
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Logic Deletion: The user may delete a logical law without replacing it. An example of this is deleting the Law of Non-Contradiction, allowing phenomena to both exist and not exist at the same time.
 
Remus1998 said:
Ok so I'm looking at the DBS speed calc and see that 118.25 sextillion c end have been crossed due to the CRT which made the universe models used to get said ends unviable.

If that's the case... why does the DBS Anime blogs still use it?
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Shared worldview undid the downgrade that got the afterlife size nerfed. Supporters just forgot to fix the calc text.
 
Can someone check this match? Someone said Mori outskills Goku badly
vsbattles.com

Goku vs Mori Dan

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Toei)#Frieza_Fight https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mori_Dan?so=search#Post-Training Speed equalized + both at multi solar system key
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
 
Tuxidoe_Redo said:
Can someone check this match? Someone said Mori outskills Goku badly
vsbattles.com

Goku vs Mori Dan

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Toei)#Frieza_Fight https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mori_Dan?so=search#Post-Training Speed equalized + both at multi solar system key
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
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I don't know who or what that is. What I do know is that Goku has Gokuversal skill so that someone is objectively wrong.
 
Mgebrat282 said:
If DBS shares worldview with Toei, then why this feat isn't infinite in speed?
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because dragon ball is allowed zero inconsistencies for infinite or Immeasurable speed

someone needs to say goku moved at Immeasurable speed then directly link our immeasurable speed standards for it to be accepted
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
because dragon ball is allowed zero inconsistencies for infinite or Immeasurable speed

someone needs to say goku moved at Immeasurable speed then directly link our immeasurable speed standards for it to be accepted
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That would likely get DB removed from the wiki since it would imply the writers are using our tier system to power scale the verse which isn’t allowed I don’t think.

So there’s no winning. Despite Goku having one of the most blatant and decisive immeasurable speed feats ever, arguably more combat applicable and direct than even The Flash up until Wally Wests 2025 comic run where he can now run out of the narrative .
 
Hasty12345 said:
That would likely get DB removed from the wiki since it would imply the writers are using our tier system to power scale the verse which isn’t allowed I don’t think.

So there’s no winning. Despite Goku having one of the most blatant and decisive immeasurable speed feats ever, arguably more combat applicable and direct than even The Flash up until Wally Wests 2025 comic run where he can now run out of the narrative .
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its an outlier because I said so
 
Hasty12345 said:
So there’s no winning. Despite Goku having one of the most blatant and decisive immeasurable speed feats ever, arguably more combat applicable and direct than even The Flash up until Wally Wests 2025 comic run where he can now run out of the narrative .
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what is it? genuinely asking
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
its an outlier because I said so
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It's because of tournament of power time, which is apparently now the current it's an "outliner killer/Big Anti-Feat for Infinite/Immeasurable Speed " for verses that people are starting to use (Sees Sonic (Or atleast one time period of Sonic) and other verses that are currently being downgraded)
 
Huesito88 said:
It's because of tournament of power time, which is apparently now the current it's an "outliner killer/Big Anti-Feat for Infinite/Immeasurable Speed " for verses that people are starting to use (Sees Sonic (Or atleast one time period of Sonic) and other verses that are currently being downgraded)
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please ignore the fact that even moving at like 99% sol means that virtually no time would pass during fights so time passing being a counter argument against immeasurable speed is nonsensical to because our characters being beyond light speed already means effectively no time should realistically be passing
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
please ignore the fact that even moving at like 99% sol means that virtually no time would pass during fights so time passing being a counter argument against immeasurable speed is nonsensical to because our characters being beyond light speed already means effectively no time should realistically be passing
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Inb4 a downgrade thread is made on this very premise.
 
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