Kenpachi Zaraki VS Minato Namikaze

[TauanVictor]

"Captain of 11th Division" Kenpachi Zaraki VS "Yondaime Hokage" Minato Namikaze​

• Both in-character and 10m away
• Equalized speed
• Soul Society Arc Kenpachi | Edo Tensei Base Minato

LOCATION:

Zaraki:
Minato:
Inconclusive:

 

[Foriaa]

kcm minato art looks absolutely fire

 

[TauanVictor]

kcm minato art looks absolutely fire

Zaraki too tbf

 

[Arkenis]

following. Leaning to incon where Kenpachi just can't be put down or the chance Minato has a win con it could be hard to land. Not sure how Kenpachi's gonna win though

 

[Foriaa]

Zaraki too tbf

his is def more tuff, the minato one is far more aesthetic, i think it might be from naruto blazing

 

[Apotheosis69]

Umm… Zaraki far upscales 19 EXATONS

While Minato at Tailed Beast State is at 154 PETAtons…

That is almost 100x difference…

His Soul Crush with muuuch higher potency will just destroy Minato's soul

 

[TauanVictor]

Umm… Zaraki far upscales 19 EXATONS

While Minato at Tailed Beast State is at 154 PETAtons…

That is almost 100x difference…

I think the profiles should have the AP set. I'll change Zaraki's key.

 

[Foriaa]

Minato still has sealing hax

 

[Apotheosis69]

Minato still has sealing hax

That would be a winning factor, if it weren't for Soul Crush being completely Passive as its just from Reiatsu being emitted.

 

[TauanVictor]

if it weren't for Soul Crush being completely Passive as its just from Reiatsu being emitted.

Minato resists.

 

[Arkenis]

When has Minato resisted having his soul crushed?

 

[TauanVictor]

When has Minato resisted having his soul crushed?

Soul Manipulation (In order to obtain Kurama Chakra Mode, Minato performed a Chakra tug of war with the beast himself and won, exactly as Naruto did. This training allows someone to resist Nagato's<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Minato_Namikaze#cite_note-Naruto631-94"><span>[</span>94<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Minato_Namikaze#cite_note-Naruto551-168"><span>[</span>168<span>]</span></a> soul extraction.)

 

[Arkenis]

That isn't what soul crush is about but okay.

 

[TauanVictor]

That isn't what soul crush is about but okay.

It turns out that since Minato is alive, Kurama Mode amplifies this resistance. I don't see why we shouldn't consider it; soul crush is just a specific attack on the soul, so resistance works.

 

[Arkenis]

We shouldn't consider it because Kurama's not inducing massive pressure on Minato, he's just fighting the soul. Not only that, but this is saying since he did that he can resist Nagato's soul hax, Nagato's soul hax doesn't do soul crush either.

 

[TauanVictor]

We shouldn't consider it because Kurama's not inducing massive pressure on Minato, he's just fighting the soul.

His ability to fight demonstrates that he can withstand some kind of disturbance, which is exactly what soul crush does. It's not a specific hax like Sans or Mahito. His resistance is amplified 2x by Tailed Beast Mode and Kurama Avatar.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Minato resists.

Its Potency based… thats how Bleach works… and almost 100x difference

 

[TauanVictor]

Its Potency based… thats how Bleach works… and almost 100x difference

I changed the key.

 

[karo_senpaii]

We shouldn't consider it because Kurama's not inducing massive pressure on Minato, he's just fighting the soul. Not only that, but this is saying since he did that he can resist Nagato's soul hax, Nagato's soul hax doesn't do soul crush either.

Resistance to soul manipulation and then good LS resists soul crush. By the way dragging someone's soul out of their body is inducing massive pressure.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Resistance to soul manipulation and then good LS resists soul crush. By the way dragging someone's soul out of their body is inducing massive pressure.

That is not how that works in the slightest. Even IF that's how that works. Bleach is currently workin on revising its LS, on being a Looot higher into Class P and E, by using Toshiro's Storm calc as a baseline for chain scaling.

Edit: Even with Yammy fight... he still is at 19 Exatons...

 

[DavidTPPM]

kcm minato art looks absolutely fire

Naruto blazing had goated art for basically every character. Such a shame the game went to shit because of Greed and got shut down.

Very ironic the company running it was called "Gree"

 

[Foriaa]

I use to love playing that game, I remember how hype the comm was when FV Naruto and Sasuke released

 

[karo_senpaii]

That is not how that works in the slightest. Even IF that's how that works. Bleach is currently workin on revising its LS, on being a Looot higher into Class P and E, by using Toshiro's Storm calc as a baseline for chain scaling.

Edit: Even with Yammy fight... he still is at 19 Exatons...

That's indeed how it works.

If it isn't then immediately close this match coz it's pointless

 

[Arkenis]

Yeah unless we drop Kenny to an even weaker tier, then even if Minato could resist, Kenpachi's too strong for him to resist his level of soul crush.

 

[TauanVictor]

Yeah unless we drop Kenny to an even weaker tier, then even if Minato could resist, Kenpachi's too strong for him to resist his level of soul crush.

Alright, I changed this to SSA Zaraki and Edo Base Minato.

 

[Arkenis]

Just make it alive since that's also 6-B and we don't gotta argue about regen.

 

[TauanVictor]

Just make it alive since that's also 6-B and we don't gotta argue about regen.

Alive Minato is deconstructed passively.

 

[Arkenis]

That's spiritual decon so Edo also gets his soul deconned.

 

[TauanVictor]

That's spiritual decon so Edo also gets his soul deconned.

It's molecular, not spiritual.

 

[Arkenis]

Reishi is spiritual matter, its molecular on a spiritual level.

 

[Lynieryz]

Deconstruction (Molecular; Kenpachi's Reiatsu is stated to cause Reishi to burn and crumble away)

Range: Tens of Meters with his sword, Interdimensional with spatial cutting, Universal to Interdimensional with Reiatsu (His Reiatsu would be able to shake the three realms of existence)

Minato will passively die against any Zaraki, as he has no resistance to Deconstruction.

 

[TauanVictor]

Reishi is spiritual matter, its molecular on a spiritual level.

It's not listed on profile.

 

[Lynieryz]

It's not listed on profile.

• Soul Physiology & Soul Reaper Physiology (Soul: High-Tier/Soul Reaper: High-Tier)

Soul Physiology (Bleach)

Within Bleach most of the major (and even minor) characters are Souls, constructed of Reishi particles and given inherent characteristics that are gained through being a soul in the series, this blog will index all the abilities gained through these characteristics. This rating is given out to...

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[TauanVictor]

Soul Physiology (Bleach)

Within Bleach most of the major (and even minor) characters are Souls, constructed of Reishi particles and given inherent characteristics that are gained through being a soul in the series, this blog will index all the abilities gained through these characteristics. This rating is given out to...

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In Soul Physiology

Matter Manipulation/Deconstruction/Absorption (Souls with Reiryoku can resist the<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Soul_Physiology_(Bleach)#cite_note-27"><span>[</span>27<span>]</span></a> effects of a Quincy's ability to deconstruct, manipulate and absorb matter

It explicitly states it's matter.

 

[Lynieryz]

In Soul Physiology


It explicitly states it's matter.

• Soul Manipulation/Non-Physical Interaction (Everyone that possesses Reiryoku within Bleach can interact with souls in one way or another, Reiatsu directly attacks the soul of those effected by it, souls can interact with Senna, an abstract entity comprised entirely of memories)

• Greater Enhanced Senses/Enhanced Non-Physical Interaction (Souls with high perception can see/interact with Spirit ribbons which are invisible/intangible to low ranking souls who can see/interact with Souls)

• Aura (Overwhelming, Fear Inducement, Materialized and Explosive: Reiatsu induces a plethora of different aliments/effects onto those that affected by it like Soul Manipulation, Paralysis Inducement, Fear Manipulation and many others)

Irrelevant, Reishi is spiritual matter and NPI already covers that anyway.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Its Spiritual matter. ANYTHING that has to do with Soul reapers, Hollows, Quincies, etc is all spiritual. Trust

 

[TauanVictor]

Its Spiritual matter. ANYTHING that has to do with Soul reapers, Hollows, Quincies, etc is all spiritual. Trust

Okay, the profile descriptions confused me. I'll ask for it to be closed.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Yeah Bleach profiles is outdated unf.

BUUUT… that Spiritual Deconstruction is rather strange as its to the surroundings. Plus he has neeever shown it in combat against people, and it is waaaay OOC for him to do that. As he wants a fun fight and wants his opponent to do their best.

Most of all, that was during Spirits Are Forever with You novel, waaay after Soul Society Arc.

 

[Apotheosis69]

So thing is, even with Equalized speed… Minato with Body Flicker Jutsu, and especially his reactions is far fastee. He normally is >0.14 c, while his Bodyflicker and reactions are FTL. Thats a 7.1x beyond blitzing, and then there's Sage Mode making him even faster.

Zaraki meanwhile upscales from 38.9 Teratons with Minato upscaling from 7 Teratons. Thats a 5.5x difference, almost being one-shot level. Minato HAS to be in Sage Mode for it to be remotely fair. Though ofc, Minato is not that proficient with Senjutsu. He will Have to summon Ma and Pa, for them to constantly gather Nature Energy for him to stat in Sage Mode.

You could make Minato START in Sage Mode, that way speed will be fully equalized, so its fair.

 

[Lynieryz]

Yeah Bleach profiles is outdated unf.

BUUUT… that Spiritual Deconstruction is rather strange as its to the surroundings. Plus he has neeever shown it in combat against people, and it is waaaay OOC for him to do that. As he wants a fun fight and wants his opponent to do their best.

Most of all, that was during Spirits Are Forever with You novel, waaay after Soul Society Arc.

So thing is, even with Equalized speed… Minato with Body Flicker Jutsu, and especially his reactions is far fastee. He normally is >0.14 c, while his Bodyflicker and reactions are FTL. Thats a 7.1x beyond blitzing, and then there's Sage Mode making him even faster.

Zaraki meanwhile upscales from 38.9 Teratons with Minato upscaling from 7 Teratons. Thats a 5.5x difference, almost being one-shot level. Minato HAS to be in Sage Mode for it to be remotely fair. Though ofc, Minato is not that proficient with Senjutsu. He will Have to summon Ma and Pa, for them to constantly gather Nature Energy for him to stat in Sage Mode.

You could make Minato START in Sage Mode, that way speed will be fully equalized, so its fair.

What is currently accepted in both profiles makes this thread a stomp.

As previously mentioned, Zaraki has passive Deconstruction with universal range in all keys.

The very layers of soul hax are outdated since the standards changed; there should be at least hundreds of layers, but nobody has the patience to count every soul interaction.