High Preceptor vs The Radio Demon(Yixuan{Zenless Zone Zero} vs Alastor{Hazbin Hotel}) 1-0-0

[MysticBrawler]

Yixuan(Zenless Zone Zero)-1

Alastor(Base)

Speed Equalized
Distance: 50 Meters
Alastor's Regeneration is High-Mid
Alastor has access to Angelic Weapons
Yixuan has prior knowledge to Angelic Weapons
SBA for the rest

 

[MysticBrawler]

Bump

 

[Naito-desu]

Damn 3 votes for her already? Yixuan fra

 

[MysticBrawler]

Damn 3 votes for her already? Yixuan fra

Huh, I guess I missed that. I fixed the OP so it's all good now.

 

[Mbpoops]

Mommy yixuan fra

 

[Sooshirohl]

alastor huh...

following, i'll reply to this sometime tomorrow when i'm free

 

[MaskedDragon908]

Masked is just going to go ahead and list two major problems with this matchup:

Number 1: All of Yixuan's standard attacks inflict Ether Corruption, which Alastor does not resist. Once he becomes an Ethereal, the match is over. It would be cool to see, though.

Number 2: Yixuan is 10.3x stronger. While Alastor does have Immortality type 2, he still requires his limbs in order to perform any meaningful actions. If she can disable him, she can continue applying pressure to effectively incapacitate him, not to mention she could potentially nullify his powers with her talismans.

If there are any refutations to this, Masked will continue their analysis later.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

following

 

[MysticBrawler]

Masked is just going to go ahead and list two major problems with this matchup:

Number 1: All of Yixuan's standard attacks inflict Ether Corruption, which Alastor does not resist. Once he becomes an Ethereal, the match is over. It would be cool to see, though.

Demon Physiology(Sinners) does give Alastor resistance to Biological Manipulation and Disease Manipulation, plus he has his own resistance to Mind Manipulation so he could handle the milder effects of Ether Corruption which can allow him to take a few hits. He can also summon minions as well as Husk and Nifty to aid him in combat so Yixuan won't be able to just focus her attention on Alastor. And I was also thinking that he could delay the effects of Ether Corruption by growing new body parts.

Number 2: Yixuan is 10.3x stronger. While Alastor does have Immortality type 2, he still requires his limbs in order to perform any meaningful actions. If she can disable him, she can continue applying pressure to effectively incapacitate him, not to mention she could potentially nullify his powers with her talismans.

If there are any refutations to this, Masked will continue their analysis later.

Angelic Weapons apparently have Low 5-B,Possibly 5-B AP and Durability so Alastor could use them to block some attacks from her.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Huh. Yixuan turned 7-C?

Well, time to get her an L!

 

[Sooshirohl]

Huh. Yixuan turned 7-C?

Well, time to get her an L!

all the void hunter tier characters are 7-C now, which includes miyabi, yixuan, and ye shunguang. banyue would also be 7-C since it's his feat that gets the value, but we don't have a profile for him up yet

 

[Sooshirohl]

alright, this matchup is a doozy. i haven't watched hazbin hotel so all of my information on alastor is going off of what's listed in his profile, so if i get anything wrong feel free to correct me.

first off, stats. yixuan pretty clearly has the massive AP advantage here, scaling to 10.68 kilotons while alastor only scales to 1.03 kilotons. iirc VSBW lists one shot territory as being an 8x AP difference, so yixuan most definitely has the capacity to straight up one shot alastor here. i think it's worth noting that according to alastor's profile, his durability is actually lower than his AP value, so the gap in strength is even worse. alastor's high-mid regen is gonna be helping him stay in the fight here (i'll delve more into that later), but yeah, yixuan for sure has the advantage there. as far as LS goes, base to base, yixuan is about 2.6x stronger, but alastor's LS far exceeds hers with his tentacles. alastor also has superior stamina (superhuman vs. peak human), far superior range (kilometers vs. hundreds of meters), and is smarter (genius vs. gifted).

as far as abilities go, both have a shit ton, so i won't delve into all of them as i think the debate kinda really just boils down to a few factors. for one, as aforementioned, while alastor does resist some of the effects of ether corruption (biological manip and disease manip), he does not resist a majority of it's effects, meaning he's very susceptible to getting corrupted if he gets pummeled enough. on the other hand, obviously alastor's angelic weapons are going to be able to just one shot yixuan if they land. i think yixuan's goal here is going to be to just pummel alastor with attacks until he eventually becomes corrupted, and alastor's goal is to likely just grab yixuan with his tentacles and just stab her with one of his angelic weapons.

yixuan has prior knowledge of the angelic weapons here, so i think she's gonna go into the fight knowing she'd basically just die instantly if she got caught by them. with this knowledge, i think she's going to opt fighting from ranged instead, abusing her flight and movement options like teleportation and utilizing stuff like vital view to avoid lethal attacks. only issue with this is that alastor outranges her, so he can afford to attack from further away without endangering himself. he also has summons to distract and defend himself, and also has methods of playing keep away with teleportation.

i'm honestly not sure who to side with here. i would say alastor probably has an easier time here, outranging, being smarter, having summons and ways to get out of sticky situations with stuff like teleportation, and all he really needs is a single opening to grab yixuan with his tentacles and then just stab her with one of his angelic weapons. but yixuan also has insane mobility, also has teleportation which would likely just let her escape the tentacles if she gets caught, and vital view to give her a massive perception amp to react to and avoid attacks. the AP advantage also means that she basically only really needs one hit to pretty much cripple alastor. honestly i think this fight really might just come down to a battle of attrition, in which case alastor would come out on top with his superior stamina, but it really just depends if yixuan can get an attack off on him before she runs of stamina

 

[MaskedDragon908]

Demon Physiology(Sinners) does give Alastor resistance to Biological Manipulation and Disease Manipulation, plus he has his own resistance to Mind Manipulation

He can also summon minions as well as Husk and Nifty

Angelic Weapons apparently have Low 5-B,Possibly 5-B AP and Durability so Alastor could use them to block some attacks from her.

alastor does resist some of the effects of ether corruption (biological manip and disease manip), he does not resist a majority of it's effects, meaning he's very susceptible to getting corrupted if he gets pummeled enough.

alastor's angelic weapons are going to be able to just one shot yixuan

alastor outranges her, so he can afford to attack from further away without endangering himself. he also has summons to distract and defend himself, and also has methods of playing keep away with teleportation.

honestly i think this fight really might just come down to a battle of attrition, in which case alastor would come out on top with his superior stamina

Getting this out of the way: Alastor does not resist Disease Manipulation. Sinners just can't die from them since they are supposed to suffer in Hell. That's why the Resistance is only Unconventional.
All the individuals within Hollows must have a high Ether Aptitude or wear protective gear. Alastor has none of these things, and Yixuan is able to inflict Ether Corruption on Ethereals, who naturally exist in Hollows and are unaffected by normal Ether.
Alastor's Superhuman stamina does allow him to ignore many of the effects, but sprouting black crystals is not one of those effects.

Alastor's minions have no feasible way of scratching Yixuan. She can also instantly delete them with her 206656.346749x AP advantage and move on. This somewhat applies to Alastor as well.

Yixuan's Sheer Force is specifically noted to bypass shields and durability in general, so shielding himself won't save Alastor.

Alastor, in his only fight using Angelic weapons, chose not to use them against the strongest opponent he has ever faced. Could he choose to use them here? Possibly. It's not completely out of the question, but he is incredibly arrogant in this key, and he's not going to have much time to use them.
(Also, why is their AP not listed on his profile? Can it even be used like this?)

Alastor has only ever fought at long range against fodder. In this key, he seems to like to fluster his opponents by getting close and personal, and then dodging their attacks while mocking them. Yixuan's vortex isn't going to be kind to him. He has used his teleportation to retreat from a fight, but generally doesn't seem to use it off the bat.

Yixuan has fought a regenerating opponent before, and after realizing this, she used a talisman to nullify their powers and prevent them from healing.
Alastor is decently skilled in his universe, but Genius ranking comes from his deception and general intelligence, not combat. His preference for close range combat against someone who actually knows Martial Arts isn't good. Yixuan is noted as a prodigy and has risen in the ranks to become the master of her own sect. Alastor's talent for deception could be useful, provided he survives long enough to take Yixuan seriously.
Her Vital View also grants her incredibly fast reactions after dodging a single attack.
In addition, Alastor hasn't dealt with Danmaku this caliber before.
If Ether Corruption doesn't make this a stomp, then Masked will vote for Yixuan Shifu, per their own reasons.

Minor note: Masked isn't sure if Yixuan can successfully dispel his tentacles, but if she can, she can take one of the Angelic weapons.

Huh. Yixuan turned 7-C?

Oh gods. Who will it be, Reaper? If nothing else, Masked will be interested to see who you plan on crushing her with.

 

[MysticBrawler]

alright, this matchup is a doozy. i haven't watched hazbin hotel so all of my information on alastor is going off of what's listed in his profile, so if i get anything wrong feel free to correct me.

first off, stats. yixuan pretty clearly has the massive AP advantage here, scaling to 10.68 kilotons while alastor only scales to 1.03 kilotons. iirc VSBW lists one shot territory as being an 8x AP difference, so yixuan most definitely has the capacity to straight up one shot alastor here. i think it's worth noting that according to alastor's profile, his durability is actually lower than his AP value, so the gap in strength is even worse. alastor's high-mid regen is gonna be helping him stay in the fight here (i'll delve more into that later), but yeah, yixuan for sure has the advantage there. as far as LS goes, base to base, yixuan is about 2.6x stronger, but alastor's LS far exceeds hers with his tentacles. alastor also has superior stamina (superhuman vs. peak human), far superior range (kilometers vs. hundreds of meters), and is smarter (genius vs. gifted).

I don't think this fight will last that long so Alastor's Stamina advantage probably won't be too detrimental for Yixuan. Alastor's range advantage is also not that big of a deal as he never really tries to keep his distance from his foes, and as MaskedDragon908 said above Alastor's Genius rating comes from his deception and general intelligence and not due to his combat skills.

as far as abilities go, both have a shit ton, so i won't delve into all of them as i think the debate kinda really just boils down to a few factors. for one, as aforementioned, while alastor does resist some of the effects of ether corruption (biological manip and disease manip), he does not resist a majority of it's effects, meaning he's very susceptible to getting corrupted if he gets pummeled enough. on the other hand, obviously alastor's angelic weapons are going to be able to just one shot yixuan if they land. i think yixuan's goal here is going to be to just pummel alastor with attacks until he eventually becomes corrupted, and alastor's goal is to likely just grab yixuan with his tentacles and just stab her with one of his angelic weapons.

Yeah pretty much.

yixuan has prior knowledge of the angelic weapons here, so i think she's gonna go into the fight knowing she'd basically just die instantly if she got caught by them. with this knowledge, i think she's going to opt fighting from ranged instead, abusing her flight and movement options like teleportation and utilizing stuff like vital view to avoid lethal attacks. only issue with this is that alastor outranges her, so he can afford to attack from further away without endangering himself. he also has summons to distract and defend himself, and also has methods of playing keep away with teleportation.

Yixuan also has her Qingming Bird which she can use to help her deal with Alastor's shadow minions

i'm honestly not sure who to side with here. i would say alastor probably has an easier time here, outranging, being smarter, having summons and ways to get out of sticky situations with stuff like teleportation, and all he really needs is a single opening to grab yixuan with his tentacles and then just stab her with one of his angelic weapons. but yixuan also has insane mobility, also has teleportation which would likely just let her escape the tentacles if she gets caught, and vital view to give her a massive perception amp to react to and avoid attacks. the AP advantage also means that she basically only really needs one hit to pretty much cripple alastor. honestly i think this fight really might just come down to a battle of attrition, in which case alastor would come out on top with his superior stamina, but it really just depends if yixuan can get an attack off on him before she runs of stamina

Well Yixuan does have Danmaku so if she feels cornered then she can just use that against Alastor.

 

[MysticBrawler]

Getting this out of the way: Alastor does not resist Disease Manipulation. Sinners just can't die from them since they are supposed to suffer in Hell. That's why the Resistance is only Unconventional.
All the individuals within Hollows must have a high Ether Aptitude or wear protective gear. Alastor has none of these things, and Yixuan is able to inflict Ether Corruption on Ethereals, who naturally exist in Hollows and are unaffected by normal Ether.
Alastor's Superhuman stamina does allow him to ignore many of the effects, but sprouting black crystals is not one of those effects.

Yeah, that is true.

Alastor's minions have no feasible way of scratching Yixuan. She can also instantly delete them with her 206656.346749x AP advantage and move on. This somewhat applies to Alastor as well.

Alastor could let his minions wield Angelic Weapons if he wants to, though I don't think he ever actually did that so I'm not sure if he would think of doing so here.

Yixuan's Sheer Force is specifically noted to bypass shields and durability in general, so shielding himself won't save Alastor.

True, which is why I let him have High-Mid Regeneration so that he can still have a chance to fight back.

Alastor, in his only fight using Angelic weapons, chose not to use them against the strongest opponent he has ever faced. Could he choose to use them here? Possibly. It's not completely out of the question, but he is incredibly arrogant in this key, and he's not going to have much time to use them.

True, though he'll probably choose to use them once he sees Yixuan's attacks punching through his forcefield while seeing his usual attacks be incapable of getting past her barrier.

(Also, why is their AP not listed on his profile? Can it even be used like this?)

Don't ask me, I didn't make his profile. In fact I only knew about this by checking out some of the other Hellaverse Versus threads where this was mentioned to be the case.

Alastor has only ever fought at long range against fodder. In this key, he seems to like to fluster his opponents by getting close and personal, and then dodging their attacks while mocking them. Yixuan's vortex isn't going to be kind to him. He has used his teleportation to retreat from a fight, but generally doesn't seem to use it off the bat.

True, though he'll probably change his tactics once he realizes he's outmatched

Yixuan has fought a regenerating opponent before, and after realizing this, she used a talisman to nullify their powers and prevent them from healing.

Alastor('sAnd all Sinner's in general) Regeneration is a intrinsic ability that doesn't seem to use an external power source so I'm not sure if Yixuan's Power Nullification would work against it.

Alastor is decently skilled in his universe, but Genius ranking comes from his deception and general intelligence, not combat. His preference for close range combat against someone who actually knows Martial Arts isn't good. Yixuan is noted as a prodigy and has risen in the ranks to become the master of her own sect. Alastor's talent for deception could be useful, provided he survives long enough to take Yixuan seriously.
Her Vital View also grants her incredibly fast reactions after dodging a single attack.

Yeah pretty much.

In addition, Alastor hasn't dealt with Danmaku this caliber before.
If Ether Corruption doesn't make this a stomp, then Masked will vote for Yixuan Shifu, per their own reasons.

Counted, and thanks for joining in.

Minor note: Masked isn't sure if Yixuan can successfully dispel his tentacles, but if she can, she can take one of the Angelic weapons.

She doesn't really need to dispel them since she can just destroy them with her attacks if needed.

Oh gods. Who will it be, Reaper? If nothing else, Masked will be interested to see who you plan on crushing her with.

It will definitely be a challenge to find a character that could contend with Yixuan. I've checked out several 7-C profiles while looking for a matchup for her, and so far I've only found a handful of characters that actually have a proper matchup with her

 

[MaskedDragon908]

Alastor's (And all Sinners in general) Regeneration is a intrinsic ability that doesn't seem to use an external power source so I'm not sure if Yixuan's Power Nullification would work against it.

She doesn't really need to dispel them since she can just destroy them with her attacks if needed.

Well, the Miasma Priest's ability to absorb Miasma could be considered intrinsic as well. Yixuan's Power Null hasn't shown such limitations, but Masked will admit that the mechanics of such an interaction are difficult to predict. Masked will add it to the list of things they are unsure about.

Masked forgot that Alastor's tentacles are somewhat physical.
They also forgot that Yixuan hasn't shown expertise in using such weaponry, although it remains an option for her.

It will definitely be a challenge to find a character that could contend with Yixuan. I've checked out several 7-C profiles

Are you still looking for matchups?
Off the top of their head, Masked believes that Ultrakill has several decent opponents for Yixuan Shifu, since machines have an inherent resistance to Ether, although they can still be corrupted with sufficient concentrations. However, McRicochet Ultrakill would instantly end Yixuan's career.

Reaper's arsenal of characters is vast and also somewhat terrifying. Masked is expecting a decisive defeat.

 

[Naito-desu]

Warhammer characters are also 7-C so that's gonna be bad since they resist much worse things than Ether

 

[MysticBrawler]

Are you still looking for matchups?
Off the top of their head, Masked believes that Ultrakill has several decent opponents for Yixuan Shifu, since machines have an inherent resistance to Ether, although they can still be corrupted with sufficient concentrations. However, McRicochet Ultrakill would instantly end Yixuan's career.

Reaper's arsenal of characters is vast and also somewhat terrifying. Masked is expecting a decisive defeat.

I did consider using V1 or V2 for a matchup, but their list of feats made me think they would just end up skill stomping Yixuan

 

[MysticBrawler]

Warhammer characters are also 7-C so that's gonna be bad since they resist much worse things than Ether

Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't Warhammer characters just end up stomping Yixuan?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't Warhammer characters just end up stomping Yixuan?

There's only a few in 7-C. I wouldn't throw a Witch Hunter at her but someone like Boris Todbringer sure.

 

[MaskedDragon908]

their list of feats made me think they would just end up skill stomping Yixuan

Yeah. That's why Masked said that using V1 was a bad idea. They will be more clear next time.
However, all the other machines do not possess such crazy feats. They're not completely unskilled, but they are nearly incomparable to V1 and V2.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't Warhammer characters just end up stomping Yixuan?

It depends on the character and if she has prior knowledge, but generally yes.
7-C Warhammer Fantasy characters scale to 76.67 Kilotons, which is a 7.18x difference, and if they are a named character, most likely resist Yixuan's Sheer Force.

I wouldn't throw a Witch Hunter at her but someone like Boris Todbringer sure.

Well, thank the gods for small mercies.
Ulric knows Boris won't have any mercy for Yixuan.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Oh dear lord, I hope this match wouldn't go south too quick considering the type of Hellaverse matches can be hectic kekw

 

[DaReaperMan]

Oh dear lord, I hope this match wouldn't go south too quick considering the type of Hellaverse matches can be hectic kekw

I mean this is like, an effortless stomp from Yixuan.

Al lacks dura neg, his durability isn't up to snuff, and she outhaxes him

 

[MysticBrawler]

There's only a few in 7-C. I wouldn't throw a Witch Hunter at her but someone like Boris Todbringer sure.

Well, thank the gods for small mercies.
Ulric knows Boris won't have any mercy for Yixuan.

I'm sorry, but how exactly is this guy supposed to be a better option? Cause seeing as he also has resistance to Aethyr Manipulation(and thus would end up resisting Yixuan's entire kit) this seems like it would also stomp to me.

 

[MysticBrawler]

I mean this is like, an effortless stomp from Yixuan.

Al lacks dura neg, his durability isn't up to snuff, and she outhaxes him

Did you at least read the arguments for both sides before coming to that conclusion?

 

[DaReaperMan]

I'm sorry, but how exactly is this guy supposed to be a better option? Cause seeing as he also has resistance to Aethyr Manipulation(and thus would end up resisting Yixuan's entire kit) this seems like it would also stomp to me.

Oh so she doesn't have the ability to fight in melee? Or like, anything?

Did you at least read the arguments for both sides before coming to that conclusion?

I did. Now, I want you, to, right now, open up Alastor's profile, and scroll down to his durability section. Do you see the problem?

 

[MysticBrawler]

Oh so she doesn't have the ability to fight in melee? Or like, anything?

She does but I don't see how that's supposed to make this not one-sided seeing as this guy can apparently fight an army all on his own on top of having High-Low Regeneration.

I did. Now, I want you, to, right now, open up Alastor's profile, and scroll down to his durability section. Do you see the problem?

Yeah I did, which is why I gave him High-Mid Regeneration so he still has a chance to fight back.

 

[DaReaperMan]

She does but I don't see how that's supposed to make this not one-sided seeing as this guy can apparently fight an army all on his own.

She's got range game, and he doesn't. Or did ya not notice.

Yeah I did, which is why I gave him High-Mid Regeneration so he still has a chance to fight back.

As if he's not going to be ******* obliterated by a 20664.28x difference in stats.

She one-shots him 2583. times. Over. A single attack hitting isn't going to gore, it's going to ******* obliterate him so hard tiny microscopic bits of him would be in CANADA.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Oh, and before ya bring up angelic weapons, they're 9-A right now. They are literally worthless to Alastor.

 

[MysticBrawler]

Oh, and before ya bring up angelic weapons, they're 9-A right now. They are literally worthless to Alastor.

Wait, what? What about those threads saying that Nifty has 5-A AP with her Angelic Weapons?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Wait, what? What about those threads saying that Nifty has 5-A AP with her Angelic Weapons?

You mean before the downgrades?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Niffty

Like, not hard to check her profile because Al got downgraded.

 

[MysticBrawler]

She's got range game, and he doesn't. Or did ya not notice.

Range that can't be used since apparently Resistance to Aethyr Manipulation gives Boris resistance to Energy Projection, Matter Manipulation and all of the effects of Ether Corruption.

As if he's not going to be ******* obliterated by a 20664.28x difference in stats.

She one-shots him 2583. times. Over. A single attack hitting isn't going to gore, it's going to ******* obliterate him so hard tiny microscopic bits of him would be in CANADA.

Yixuan's attacks are not that big so I don't see how her attacks being could hit his entire body.

 

[DaReaperMan]

This entire thread hinges on:

1. Alastor dodging danmaku he has never, EVER been shown to be able to dodge anything even remotely like it
2. Alastor not being blown past his baseline High-Mid by a single attack hitting
3. Assuming Angelic Weapons remained tier 5 without even checking profiles or seeing it in Alastor's tiering

Like, damn.

Range that can't be used since apparently Resistance to Aethyr Manipulation gives Boris resistance to Energy Projection, Matter Manipulation and all of the effects of Ether Corruption.

Ya know fair enough.

Yixuan's attacks are not that big so I don't see how her attacks being could hit his entire body.

...

Mystic. Energy travels. Alastor getting his ******* hoof hit is going to chain react.

 

[MaskedDragon908]

I'm sorry, but how exactly is this guy supposed to be a better option?

Did you at least read the arguments for both sides before coming to that conclusion?

Boris is a melee combatant. Given prior knowledge, Yixuan can technically whittle him down.
It's just not very likely.

Masked came to the same conclusion as Reaper did, so do you really have to ask?

Yixuan's attacks are not that big so I don't see how her attacks being could hit his entire body.

Three things:
She can make wings that are bigger than her body to hit people.
She only needs to hit his head or his chest to disable him.
As Reaper mentioned, Corruption is not limited to a single body part.

Wait, what? What about those threads saying that Nifty has 5-A AP with her Angelic Weapons?

Hazbin Hotel scaling is very contentious at the best of times. Masked tries to keep up with the revisions, but it's hard.

Oh so she doesn't have the ability to fight in melee? Or like, anything?

Really quick: Masked isn't sure about the exact mechanics of parrying on the VS Wiki.
Is it possible for Yixuan to redirect an attack that is 7.18x stronger than she is from someone with double her lifting strength with her Ether wings?
Or is that completely unfeasible?
This is hypothetical of course, since Boris has the skill to take her out as soon as he gets close.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Really quick: Masked isn't sure about the exact mechanics of parrying on the VS Wiki.
Is it possible for Yixuan to redirect an attack that is 7.18x stronger than she is from someone with double her lifting strength with her Ether wings?
Or is that completely unfeasible?
This is hypothetical of course, since Boris has the skill to take her out as soon as he gets close.

Ya know I forgot that Boris is upscaling heavily from like 70 KT to begin with...

 

[MysticBrawler]

You mean before the downgrades?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Niffty

Like, not hard to check her profile because Al got downgraded.

I'm not really keeping track of every Hellaverse CRT, and seeing how weak Nifty and Husk are compared to Alastor I wasn't really expecting much from them here.

This entire thread hinges on:

1. Alastor dodging danmaku he has never, EVER been shown to be able to dodge anything even remotely like it

Danmaku isn't something Yixuan pulls out right away so Alastor would still have a chance to fight back before she pull it out.

1. Alastor not being blown past his baseline High-Mid by a single attack hitting

When Yixuan's projectiles hit a (which would be several time weaker that Alastor)building it didn't leave any kind of massive hole in it and just pierced straight through it so I don't see what's the basis for you saying that her projectiles would obliterate Alastor.

1. Assuming Angelic Weapons remained tier 5 without even checking profiles or seeing it in Alastor's tiering

Like, damn.

Same as the fiirst response.

Anyway since Alastor no longer has a wincon I guess this matchup can no longer work.

 

[MysticBrawler]

Boris is a melee combatant. Given prior knowledge, Yixuan can technically whittle him down.
It's just not very likely.

Masked came to the same conclusion as Reaper did, so do you really have to ask?

Boris has High-Low Regeneration, so she can't do any kind of meaningful damage with her entire kit being unusable.

Three things:
She can make wings that are bigger than her body to hit people.
She only needs to hit his head or his chest to disable him.
As Reaper mentioned, Corruption is not limited to a single body part.



Hazbin Hotel scaling is very contentious at the best of times. Masked tries to keep up with the revisions, but it's hard.

Yeah ok, I already agreed that this matchup can no longer work.

Really quick: Masked isn't sure about the exact mechanics of parrying on the VS Wiki.
Is it possible for Yixuan to redirect an attack that is 7.18x stronger than she is from someone with double her lifting strength with her Ether wings?
Or is that completely unfeasible?
This is hypothetical of course, since Boris has the skill to take her out as soon as he gets close.

Yeah I don't see that happening.

 

[Sooshirohl]

i'm late but yeah the discusssed arguments have convinced me that alastor is kind of boned here. 20,000x AP advantage is a doozy lol, i don't think high-mid regen is saving al from the fact that a single attack from yixuan would turn him into goo, and that's ignoring her ways of bypassing dura with sheer force plus her various ways of boosting her damage. from what was discussed al doesn't even seem like he'll be fighting seriously even when faced with an opponent leagues stronger than him, meanwhile yixuan especially with prior knowledge about the fact that he has weapons that can oneshot her is just going to tear through everything he can throw at her and seek to end the fight as quickly as possible. i don't even think al can reliably restrain yixuan with tentacles even with the massive LS disparity since she can probably just teleport out of their grasp. coupled with the fact that apparently the angelic weapons won't even kill yixuan and yeah it's ggs lol

 

[DaReaperMan]

I'm not really keeping track of every Hellaverse CRT, and seeing how weak Nifty and Husk are compared to Alastor I wasn't really expecting much from them here.

You don't have to. You just need to see that Alastor is back to Low 7-C and then like... check Niffty to know if her AWs are still tier 5.

i'm late but yeah the discusssed arguments have convinced me that alastor is kind of boned here. 20,000x AP advantage is a doozy lol,

Also, thats only the advantage against Al's durability. The actual AP gap is like 10x, but FP Alastor is sort of a glass cannon.

 

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Also, thats only the advantage against Al's durability. The actual AP gap is like 10x, but FP Alastor is sort of a glass cannon.

yeah ik, though to be fair al would still be getting one shot even if his durability fully scaled to his AP. although i would at least be more convinced that he could regen from that gap compared to a 20,000x gap lol

also ik the angelic weapons wouldn't work against yixuan but assuming they did, would making him bloodlusted + giving him prior knowledge about the strength gap make the matchup more fair?