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Ah, I’ll take back what I said just now then. I trust your word on this
That makes sense. I thought that may be the case. Thank you
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Major MCU Speed Downgrade: Far From Bullet Speeds
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Jason_Courne
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That's only for real time, in Peter's vision it was flapping it's wings once every like .8 or .6 seconds
Also the 4 milliseconds end is just for a fruit fly, Peter was viewing a house fly in slow motion which flaps 200 to 600x per second, which means his perception should = .0025 seconds as the average value (just barely Supersonic)
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This, and the other Raimiverse speed feats should be handled in a calc blog like what Dale's been doing with other MCU speed feats
Jason_Courne
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I made a calc blog where I plan on adding more, but the slow motion feat alone got Supersonic+ to High Hypersonic (based on fly wing speed vs walking speed vs airplane speed)
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I’m not a calc group member, so I won’t try to evaluate this. But I feel as though the fly method is the only viable method here, really
The people could just happen to be slow walkers (they’re in nyc, so that would be strange, but it’s possible), and paper airplane speed can highly vary depending on the air, how the paper is folded, what kind of paper. Though the fly method is definitely pretty sound
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Jason_Courne
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Yeah I defintely prefer the fly method since that's the one we get the most focus on, meanwhile the walkers are kind of in the background, but the paper airplane was based on a fairly basic plane / one of the easier to make versions
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Fair enough. A calc group member may say it’s ok. I just still think it’s iffy. I doubt those planes always hit the same speeds, and there could have just been a gust of wind that made it slow down or something.
I’d still probably say that’s an ok method if it was the only reference we got, but with the fly, I’d say just to use that
Especially because, if it was high hypersonic, the fly’s wings would be frozen in air rather than just flapping slowly
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The higher ends of that are definitely outliers for Raimiverse as well consider how much they have for the anti-feats section.
Also you should correct the wording in the blog to perceptions since this isn't a reaction feat, we can see his slow motion perceptions his consistently much slower in scenes where he's reacting to stuff actively usually falls around subsonic normally
Also you should correct the wording in the blog to perceptions since this isn't a reaction feat, we can see his slow motion perceptions his consistently much slower in scenes where he's reacting to stuff actively usually falls around subsonic normally
Jason_Courne
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Got it, I think the slow motion scene with Flash's punch should net high end subsonic around 140 m/s, I'll add that after work
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Why not just scale people from Captain America's stated speed? What's the point of calcing speed feats if he has a stated combat speed?
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The subsonic range is ultimately still pretty consistent for each of these characters and I don't think its too bad to just use the evidence as a consistent line of where they should be. I mean if feats varied too far from his stated 35m/s combat speeds then yeah we obviously couldn't use those but ya know
Its technically more accurate statement wise to use just 35m/s cap and call a day, you are right there but some wiggle room for higher subsonics is fine
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Weird
I like it /j
Fair enough
Fair enough
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Thanks for the comment
Dinobot1996
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Gonna finish these last couple batches of calcs today then apply changes...also more consistency
Thor gets statued by gunfire in a slow-motion scene (Cap is actually faster than him here btw)
Thor gets statued by gunfire in a slow-motion scene (Cap is actually faster than him here btw)
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Other speed feats:
Anti-feat:
- Loki seems to block a bullet with his magic.
- Kamala catches a thrown dagger with her light hand, although she may have had the hand out already.
- Sam blocks a knife with a rifle.
- Rhodey bats away a fired missile.
- Matt dodges a shuriken.
- Matt dodges bullets.
- Matt dodges more bullets.
- Matt dodges an arrow.
- Matt (damn) catches an arrow.
Anti-feat:
- Mary Walker seems to be unable to dodge a bullet.
Dinobot1996
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Sam evading what appear to be Hydra 70 rockets is probably less impressive when you consider he was flying in the same direction they were, though it seems noteworthy that Batroc was able to jump out of his helicopter before the rockets blew it up.
Sam later reacting to and stopping multiple missiles that he's flying straight at looks more impressive, but likely has more potential to yield outlier results.
Sam later reacting to and stopping multiple missiles that he's flying straight at looks more impressive, but likely has more potential to yield outlier results.
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Is Makkari being downgraded to subsonic, or does she have another calc to scale off of?
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she is MHS, she has no reason to be affected, her stuff is solid
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QS is like the most fraudulent speedster is fiction.
Ah, it's just that her current profile upscales her from Carol.
Dinobot1996
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Specifically, this is the calculation listed on Makkari's profile.
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I sort of recall there being an issue with some kind of cut during the feat, but maybe I'm thinking of Ikaris.
Dinobot1996
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Yeah, I think it was the Ikaris flight feat that had a cut that made it impossible to determine how long it took him to reach the Sun.
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ngl there is too much here for me to calc on my lonesome at least just for this thread alone, I mean things are consistent enough which I am thankful for all the shit sent to get calculated
her's doesn't have a cut, its in the OP so you can see the full thing
CreamyZoup
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Just the fact we're getting Homelander speedblitzing all MCU Avengers is hilarious 
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He's on the chopping block tooJust the fact we're getting Homelander speedblitzing all MCU Avengers is hilarious
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Dinobot1996
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Yondu's Yaka Arrow, which has an accepted Supersonic calculation listed on the main MCU page, blitzes pretty much everyone it's used against, with it being clearly shown that even Rocket wouldn't have been able to dodge it. Though somehow Taserface did manage to dodge it...
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Given that it lights fire while in the air, it actually should be hypersonic
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The Mach 5 figure only applies to humans running, I tried to find the minimum value for metal, but I found nothing
Besides, it'd be a major outlier for Taserface anyway
AthelChan
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finally.. a naoya W
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Ah, I see. And I wasn’t saying that number applied for Taser Face lol, I do agree that whatever that is for him, it’s an outlier. It was more for Mondo. But I see
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Just the fact we're getting Homelander speedblitzing all MCU Avengers is hilarious
Bro's speed is fraudulent too, don't think he's getting outta this blitzing the verse
Honestly, I feel like if any of Matt's feats are gonna get calculated, it should be one of these two. These two are the best shots he's got NGL
That being said, don't take this as me saving face, I don't think this verse is reaching Supersonic cast wide any time soon
Dinobot1996
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CreamyZoup
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CreamyZoup
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Hypersonic+ (Mach 18.2) is quite a big difference between mfin' Subsonic
CreamyZoup
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Ik he's not blitzing the entire verse but the MCU Avengers getting blitzed by him is hilarious
Chritin
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Nuh uh
I will not let that happen
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