Jujutsu Kaisen: Quick Kenjaku upgrade CRT

[Rogue_Forge]

We currently have it accepted that a cursed technique reversal is at least twice the strength of a characters normal cursed technique due to the reversal requiring double the Cursed Energy, this is stated directly in the manga and we already use it in profiles (see Satoru Gojo)

One of Kenjakus Cursed Techniques is the Cursed Technique of Kaori Itadori, that being Anti-Gravity

Antigravity System (反重力機構アンチグラビティシステム): A cursed technique that negates gravity when used.

Kenjaku can use the reversal of this, Gravity, which should mean its twice as powerful as his normal technique, and thus would scale to 2x his current AP

Feats for why gravity is stronger than any of his other techniques:

Despite Kenjaku being shown as comparable, if not physically weaker than Yuki Tsukumo, a single use of gravity concentrated on her body was able to bisect her:

EDIT:

She also got one tapped before she was injured in Kenjakus domain

Conclusion:

Kenjaku's Gravity being a Cursed Technique Reversal and being able to one shot those who are physically superior to him should make it clear that Gravity is a 2x AP buff just like any other Cursed Technique Reversal

This might only scale to Kenjaku but I wouldn't be surprised if you could argue Gojo, 20 Finger Sukuna and Shinjuku Mahoraga would scale to this, I'll wait to see the arguments first

Agree: Anonymous_Learner

Disagree:

Neutral:

 

[Arkenis]

This is good. But Gojo and Sukuna will scale above due to their own scaling.

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Idk why but I couldn't for the life of me find the image of a not injured Yuki being one shot by gravity until AFTER I made the CRT

 

[BiggestOpp]

Why would it be 2x his normal AP? We don’t know how strong anti gravity is.

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Why would it be 2x his normal AP? We don’t know how strong anti gravity is.

Because it uses 2x the cursed energy of his normal attacks

 

[BiggestOpp]

Because it uses 2x the cursed energy

We don’t know how strong anti gravity is.

 

[Rogue_Forge]

It would scale to his other lapse techniques

 

[Arkenis]

Yeah it depends how much anti grav takes but we know they can put less ce into ct it isn't at a static amount

 

[BiggestOpp]

Im confused ngl.
Anti gravity is the base technique., gravity is the reversal.
Reversals are 2x the output of the regular technique.
How much output does anti gravity have?

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Gojo Sukuna and Shinjuku Raga upscale, i guess (it doesn't matter since they'll just be large town once the Uraume calc nerf is implemented.)

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

oh, and i agree, of course

 

[Rogue_Forge]

oh, and i agree, of course

Counted

 

[BiggestOpp]

Counted

Answer me booger

 

[Mommyleona]

Why would it be 2x his normal AP? We don’t know how strong anti gravity is.

Im confused ngl.
Anti gravity is the base technique., gravity is the reversal.
Reversals are 2x the output of the regular technique.
How much output does anti gravity have?

Bro what
his technique would have his own output, at least

 

[BiggestOpp]

Bro what
his technique would have his own output, at least

That’s something you gotta prove.
Anti gravity isn’t even a physical cursed technique, something that deals damage. We don’t know how much output it uses.

 

[Rogue_Forge]

That’s something you gotta prove.
Anti gravity isn’t even a physical cursed technique, something that deals damage. We don’t know how much output it uses.

CT cutput isn't a static number, it increases or decreases depending on how much CE you put into it

 

[Arkenis]

CT cutput isn't a static number, it increases or decreases depending on how much CE you put into it

That's his point. Just to further this, anti gravity has an unstable output so it doesn't make sense to argue it has a certain output we can multiply off of.

 

[BiggestOpp]

CT cutput isn't a static number, it increases or decreases depending on how much CE you put into it

How much CE does he put into?

 

[Rogue_Forge]

How much CE does he put into?

As said previously, theres no reason why he wouldn't put the same amount of CE into it compared to any other CT, saying he put in less is headcanon

 

[BiggestOpp]

As said previously, theres no reason why he wouldn't put the same amount of CE into it compared to any other CT, saying he put in less is headcanon

“Same amount of CE into it compared to any other CT”
Does boogie output the same amount of CE as Blue?
Idk what you’re trying to say here.
Different techniques have different outputs.
You’re trying to claim anti gravity outputs the same amount of CE as, say his reinforcement.
Anti gravity isn’t a combat CT, so you can’t default say it uses the same CE output has his physicals.
We don’t know how much output it has, it’s headcanon to assume it’s the same as his physicals.
That’s why I keep asking you to prove how much output it would use. That’s all you gotta do and this is fine to go through

 

[Rogue_Forge]

“Same amount of CE into it compared to any other CT”
Does boogie output the same amount of CE as Blue?
Idk what you’re trying to say here.
Different techniques have different outputs.
You’re trying to claim anti gravity outputs the same amount of CE as, say his reinforcement.
Anti gravity isn’t a combat CT, so you can’t default say it uses the same CE output has his physicals.
We don’t know how much output it has, it’s headcanon to assume it’s the same as his physicals.
That’s why I keep asking you to prove how much output it would use. That’s all you gotta do and this is fine to go through

It's comparable to any of HIS cursed techniques

 

[BiggestOpp]

It's comparable to any of HIS cursed techniques

Where is the proof of this and what other CTs does Kenjaku have???

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Where is the proof of this and what other CTs does Kenjaku have???

Bro has to just be hating for the love of the game

 

[Rogue_Forge]

 

[Damage3245]

I think BiggestOpp has a valid concern for this thread.

 

[Arkenis]

Where is the proof of this and what other CTs does Kenjaku have???

Cursed Spirit, but that seemingly doesn't take ce to output anything, he can just amp the curses still random output there as well

 

[BiggestOpp]

Bro has to just be hating for the love of the game

I’m asking genuine questions. Like the argument and scaling presented is fine but you just gotta prove that non combative ct somehow uses the same output as combative cts

 

[Rogue_Forge]

I think BiggestOpp has a valid concern for this thread.

I do agree that Anti-Gravity does vary in strength, but that's the thing, it varies, it could be lower OR higher it doesn't say the output just lowers but that its unstable, it fluctuates, and assuming that every time he used it he would get the lower end is baseless

All this really means is that the technique might have more or less than his normal output, meaning that Gravity would have either more or less than twice his output

So while it is inconsistent, it doesnt change the fact he CAN get twice his AP or even higher

 

[Rogue_Forge]

I’m asking genuine questions. Like the argument and scaling presented is fine but you just gotta prove that non combative ct somehow uses the same output as combative cts

We already scale non combative abilities to combative abilities using Non-Physical Energy Systems

 

[Rogue_Forge]

We've done it before

 

[BiggestOpp]

We already scale non combative abilities to combative abilities using Non-Physical Energy Systems

I understand that but this isn’t what I’m saying.
Different techniques require a different amount of output to use. No single technique uses the equivalent amount of output, to my knowledge.
So with anti gravity being a non combative CT I don’t think it’s fair to assume it uses a similar amount of output to Kenjaku’s physicals or “other techniques” (whatever that means). They’re different and operates differently.
I think in a situation like this you’ll need to give more reasoning to why it should scale to his base stats.

 

[Mommyleona]

That’s something you gotta prove.
Anti gravity isn’t even a physical cursed technique, something that deals damage. We don’t know how much output it uses.

Kenjaku can pour his ce output into anti gravity
gravity therefore would be at least twice as strong

 

[BiggestOpp]

Kenjaku can pour his ce output into anti gravity
gravity therefore would be at least twice as strong

What are you tryna say slime

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Different techniques require a different amount of output to use. No single technique uses the equivalent amount of output, to my knowledge.

Different Techniques do not require specific amounts of output to use, you can increase or decrease the output which literally happens in the Kenjaku vs Yuki & Choso fight

 

[Mommyleona]

What are you tryna say slime

Well you know how Gojo can pour more of his output into Blue to make it stronger, or Uraume can pour more of her output to freeze more, anti gravity then can be used to lift more stuff with more output, and gravity would be twice that

 

[JnSteHar002]

Makes sense to me, at least so far

 

[BiggestOpp]

Well you know how Gojo can pour more of his output into Blue to make it stronger, or Uraume can pour more of her output to freeze more, anti gravity then can be used to lift more stuff with more output, and gravity would be twice that

Yeah I get that much, but why is the default assumption that the technique, which literally just disables gravity; uses output comparable to his physicals?
With stuff like blue, we can guess how strong it is based off its showings. Like overpowering people comparable to Gojo and such.
Anti gravity uses an amount of CE unknown to us.
Maybe I’m a dumbass. Idk

 

[Sus]

That’s something you gotta prove.
Anti gravity isn’t even a physical cursed technique, something that deals damage. We don’t know how much output it uses.

gojo explains to yuji that CTs are stronger and more efficient than raw CE

anti gravity is > kenjakus punches and gravity should be at least 2x that

 

[Sus]

even if it varies it should still have an "up to" and the limit should generally be > his raw CE

 

[AyOgUyS]

Not voting yet but I think BiggestOpp has some good points