That’s progressive; it’s not like Luffy will instantly be at blitz level as soon as the match starts. It took Luffy several clashes and laughs to reach that level against Kizaru.
Although, I’m unsure about him being blitz-level faster overall, since a named attack is what blitzed Kizaru, while both were significantly exhausted and
Luffy was already at his limit. Even if he did get faster to that point while at his limit, he would be able to blitz several of Naruto’s clones, sure. But seeing Naruto’s fighting style, that attack might never reach him.
Except Luffy wasn't trying to beat Kizaru. He was
explicitly trying to keep him in one place. I already gave a true example of Luffy's laugh amp during his fight with Lucci. Go to page 1.
Let’s look at how shitty Luffy’s stamina is in this state. Naruto can outlast him if push comes to shove. Naruto is also a bit of a corny fighter; the minute he sees that Luffy is unpredictable, he won’t engage, at least, not with his main body. Luffy’s “Haki flex” might damage some clones closer to him, but it’ll get weaker the further it is from the epicenter.
Is there proof of this last statement?
Luffy can grow or stretch his limbs to be several kilometers in size; I’m unsure if his actual giant form gets that big. Even if we go out on a limb (kek) and assume he grows evenly by that amount, Naruto can make more clones and pin down every one of his limbs, restraining him even more. So he can still be pinned down.
Problem is that with his large size he would be far faster than the clones and could easily wipe them all out
That’s weird, I don’t even see attack reflection on Luffy’s profile, and I don’t see anything about the 8x reflection amp either. Shouldn’t that be accepted before it can be used?
Those are both accepted. Luffy's normal attack reflection sends attacks back with twice the force and Gear 4th and 5th boost Luffy's tensile force to over 4x.
So I’ll just assume it exists for the sake of it.
Kaido’s Bolo Breath reached Luffy. I don’t know the panel you’re talking about, but you can’t compare the actual diameter of Kaido’s attack prior to its explosion to a Bijuu Bomb’s; there’s a clear size difference.
Naruto can detonate both of his bombs when they clash with each other, and not with Luffy, thereby making Luffy deal with the explosion width itself, not just the initial matter state. Luffy has never reflected anything that big before and has never been shown to. Naruto’s charged bombs can reach hundreds of kilometers, which is far higher than any range Luffy can cover, even with his limbs stretched. So there is a scenario where Luffy gets overwhelmed with attacks 2x above his durability.
This is the page I'm talking about. The size of a Bijuu Bomb doesn't matter as Luffy's passive transmutation range is hundreds of kilometers. He's able to deflect attacks that detonate on contact without them exploding in his face. The Blast Breath I linked is one example, and
this is another.
As I mentioned before, Luffy's triple-layered Accelerated Development would literally just force him to cover that gap, making Luffy the one with the AP advantage here.
You know what's a fun thing about precog? It's that it can become pretty useless if you get outsmarted. Naruto constantly fights with people who efficiently predict several steps ahead of him and can set up his position in a way where it ends up benefiting him.
A good example is Kakuzu. Kakuzu could predict Naruto is going to send clones for diversion while only the main body is a threat but Naruto predicted this prediction so he hid his true body among the diversion, abusing Kakuzus predictions against himself.
Similar thing with Kaguya. He noticed she negates all his hax and heavily out-stats him so he just started BIQ slamming her to stall.
Same with Luffy though? Pretty much every single one of his battles in the Post-Timeskip are against experienced and skilled precog users, yet Luffy always has the upper hand.
Luffy was able to precog stomp someone who uses their precog to consistently not get hit in a gladiator ring against hundreds of skilled fighters. He did this with both of his hands tied. Now he's far more skilled with using precog after fighting Katakuri and even unlocked an advanced version where he can literally see into the future. This isn't something that Naruto can just "outsmart." Luffy has great BIQ.
Naruto is superior to Luffy in ap so this doesn't work. Only his strongest attacks can equal Naruto ap and this is if the clones aren't even in kurama mode. So I don't think his conq Haki is taken them out. Also do note Naruto resist subjective reality
Except this isn't the case due to Luffy's passive and double-layered active Accelerated Development. Luffy has layered resistance negation which includes Subjective Reality, so his abilities would still work here. Naruto also doesn't resist straight up Reality Manipulation.
Naruto has far better reactions. Precog does no equate to reactions, it's just a heads up and if you don't have the reactions to keep up with the heads up you got then it won't be much of an advantage
Luffy in Gear 5th is 35c and has a large reaction boost with Kenbunshoku Haki.
It's literally in all of his keys.
Kenbunshoku grants the users high reactions to where they can perceive relative fighters in slowed time. Naruto is only 10c, which is already over 3x slower than Luffy. His 28c only comes from reaction speed which is defined as such:
Reaction speed is defined as a single movement
It's a single movement in a short timeframe. If Luffy can literally view Naruto in slow motion, a single movement is something he can easily adapt to, especially since he has very good precog and when said movement is slower than his combat speed.
This is how Luffy views relative fighters with Kenbun
Now imagine Naruto who is 3x slower than him and 1.25x slower than him with single short-burst movements
Yeah about this, six path gives you resistance to subjective reality. Considering the fact that all of these are derived from Luffy subjective reality then none of it works on Naruto attacks so basically Luffy gets barraged.
Subjective Reality
and Reality Manipulation. Luffy has resistance negation for both.
Also a giant Luffy is just giving Naruto more area to attack with his tso that would deconstruct Luffy.
Luffy has Haki Emission to block and can manipulate his body to dodge any attacks with his precog. He could also just turn them into rubber.
There's also a matter of Naruto invulnerability here. Would Haki even work on him?
Naruto's invulnerability is limited to Ninjutsu, which Luffy doesn't use.
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