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If the feat was calc'd using just the manga, the results would be different. That's grounds enough to remove the anime version.
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Tokyo Revengers: Removing Anime Feats
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Realistically, shouldn't this be a CRT instead of a CGD?
What's being questioned and removed is the canonicity of the anime, not the calculations themselves. They're just getting removed by proxy of being based on the anime adaptation.
As far as I understand, canonicity of an adaptation is a CRT topic for thread mods and admins, not a calc group topic for CGMs.
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I don't like argument for attempting to remove Baji's calc due to my reason in the previous thread, but I don't disagree with removing it either, it's not like it's gonna hold up anyways, unless maybe the new season gives clarity to some feats.
Not sure about Taiju's feat of sending multiple goons flying. It's an expanded version of what the manga establishes, the manga doesn't show him punch those goons, but it also expands what is already implied, i. e, the narration that taiju's brutality is out of this world.
I'm 50/50 on this.
The rest is good to go imo.
Not sure about Taiju's feat of sending multiple goons flying. It's an expanded version of what the manga establishes, the manga doesn't show him punch those goons, but it also expands what is already implied, i. e, the narration that taiju's brutality is out of this world.
I'm 50/50 on this.
The rest is good to go imo.
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Can yall give it a rest I said I'd give a detailed comment later if given time, stop clogging the thread and give staff time
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I will start removing off topic messages or messages that just repeat stuff already said.
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das not what happened u said to vapes reasoning that despite the anime being supervised and following the manga that u need more proof, but that would make like 99 percent of verses non canon, which dont even make sense
thats not what the main debunks of the thread r. They're asking to nuke the speed ratings because one of the feats is an expanded manga fight feat that wasn't able to be quantified in the manga
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My guy, this is what we're not going to do. I can pull everything said about anime canon in that thread from myself as well as other staff and users who disagreed with it and link it here but I'd rather not have to do that
Moreso the feat does not exist as it does in the manga the way its done in anime or some being straight anime only additions but even despite that the calcs are just bad, now can you please stop commenting until I can write out a detailed post later today
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The fact alone that the fight includes stuff not seen on the manga shows how the feat is now different. That's what makes it tertiary canon and unusable for our purposes. However, this was already handled on another thread. As Dale said, they have to be removed regardless.
I am only answering this to be courteous, but at this point, this topic is derailing. So please stop now.
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@LostLightt refrain from commenting until staff is able to give proper evaluations, all you're doing is adding to the word count
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no i aint, i literally said there was 1 reply to the canon stuff in that thread so how was it handled. u gotta discuss it before verifying it. no
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Close the thread until you or other staff are willing to evaluate. From what I can see it’s only you and Lephyr here, so one of you will unlock it anyway.
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There were several but you won't even give anyone time or listen to request for time to give proper comments man, can you please stop
Probably necessary for now given the current behavior but I'll leave that for more than just myself to decide
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I will just threadban Light for a day or two. They were given very explicit requests to stop commenting, which they ignore.
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Read OP? It's already there.
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There is no difference in the first place because they are anime exclusive scenes. They’re calcing scenes that didn’t exist in the manga.
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I wasn't sure where to put since the mimic durability thread that I thought was a CRT was considered a CGM thread due to going over calcs,. Wanted to play it safe and put it here
It can be moved if wanted
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And that's why you read OP and take a look for yourself
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Alright, could you move it to the CRT section then?
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This should be fine, though it's probably best to handle it as a CRT as everyone already said.
Additionally, for punching Hanma calc using simply fist mass would be inaccurate, since that'd imply no rest of your body's mass contributes to the punch which is just false.
Additionally, for punching Hanma calc using simply fist mass would be inaccurate, since that'd imply no rest of your body's mass contributes to the punch which is just false.
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Alright updated OP. I put the section that's calc issues to the side since if this is a CRT those should be covered in a CGM off Lephyr's suggestion
I added M3X and Floxy's votes (Ik CGMs don't have staff vote rights but I try to include all who voted)
Sorry if I missed someone putting a vote cause I just woke up a bit ago, it seems like others are still formulating opinions
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Might as well do it here and be done with it.
I also agree with removing the anime feats, btw.
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Alright readded it and added your vote
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MorrisHatesYou
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3 staff members already agreed with the thread I think you can apply it
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Only the calc related ones that use anime shenanigans based on altered scenes.
Dale will further explain the calcs have issues beyond even that to hammer the revision home
Edit: Though seems Floxy gave a general agreement
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I'm not calling you disingenuous. I'm saying you are WRONG.
Anyways, if this is the case then I have little need to discuss here. If these calcs were denied (which they rightfully should be) then they need to be removed. No arguing about math, no arguing about cannon, just removed until someone wants to make a new CRT about it (if that at all). I'll leave it at that and refrain from further comments regarding the calcs if it makes it easier for staff.
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agree FRA
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Yeah I came to that realization when going through the verse page's calc list
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First and foremost before I say anything else I will say that you need to familiarize yourself with our current policies on canonicity as the users in this thread have previously told you several times now.
Just having general supervision of a adaptation or just giving approval over some general stuff does not constitute as being sufficient to having the anime be canon, there are no exceptions to this so if you simply don't have evidence of the author/creator or rights holder of said series giving an explicitly statement confirming the anime takes priority over the original work or is their true vision that should be taken over their manga then there's simply no point in discussing that. Even with that said you claimed that there was only ever one comment about canonicity and that Vzearr provided in the previous thread which is blatantly untrue since there were other users who weighed in as well, regardless though OP even mentions they spoke to @Reiner04 as well and dropped it after discussion.
User comment here
Now onto the calcs themself
Baji shatters a windshield
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This one is once again another anime only addition with its own problems in the calc itself as the distance of Baji's movement is significantly wanked to absurd degrees to even get the calc to the value it is while also breaking our calculation rule here. I'd really rather not have to do a full calc breakdown tho if it can be avoided since I do NOT want to have to do entirely new calcs to show why this stuff doesn't work but if need be then I can.
Tokyo revengers : some lifting strength calculations
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this is correct the current timeframe used is pretty inflated and comes from very outdated revisions and has no merit really to use anything near that high
I agree with the CRT and the removal of these calcs as a whole for the reasons provided in my post and the OPs own detailed explanations. these gotta go especially since we don't even accept anime canon to begin with already
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While waiting for the third staff approval I'll note that 48hr grace is April 17 5:02am EST
Should talk about how this is gonna get applied too. Should what ratings the profiles are gonna be changed to be settled here or a future thread?
If the former would need supporters to help know what the current inverse speed scaling is since the profiles don't make it clear
Personally I would lean to profile edits being done in a future thread since this one already covers a lot
Should talk about how this is gonna get applied too. Should what ratings the profiles are gonna be changed to be settled here or a future thread?
If the former would need supporters to help know what the current inverse speed scaling is since the profiles don't make it clear
Personally I would lean to profile edits being done in a future thread since this one already covers a lot
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Different timezones... For example the grace period for me would be 11:04
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Bump
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Have you had the time to look over OP?
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Jst say u aint read the manga, the whole fight is in the manga the anime jst shows the exact punches and kicks + it's supervised + it's faithful to the manga.
it aint its in the manga, jst say u aint read it, the manga and anime is only different by the anime showing the exact punches of a fight in the manga.
Also mate did u just say Baji is comp to no names when he is literally beating 50 of them in the same scene without being tagged once...
Also the degrees aint wanked u gots to prove that mate. Substantiate yo shi
Not only is Wakui supervising the anime, the anime is faithful.
Oh and BTW, wakui dont jst supervise it, he closely ensures everything is correct:https://anibase.net/en/anime/4kJn1/Tokyo-Revengers-Season-2
So ur kinda cooked here bud
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