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The References of Monism in Shadow Fight (STAFF NEEDED—1 MORE)

I don't think that's enough to justify Type 5 as that could just be something to support 1-A in which Shadow here is empowered by 1-A powersource to be able to fight them
Like I said, I'm not trying to push Shadow into having Acausality (Type 5).

Now that this is practically settled, what's your current stance on everything? Do you still think they only qualifies for PP2, and are you fine with the three figures I mentioned (the Void, Tenebris, and Architect) having Acausality (Type 5)?
 
Like I said, I'm not trying to push Shadow into having Acausality (Type 5).

Now that this is practically settled, what's your current stance on everything? Do you still think they only qualifies for PP2, and are you fine with the three figures I mentioned (the Void, Tenebris, and Architect) having Acausality (Type 5)?
I know, I was trying to point out that the three of them being interacted by Shadow could give out some antifeats especially if it's physically

I think Paraconsistent Physiology type 2 is fine at maximum, their minimum one being type 1 (unrelated but shortening this to PP will always be funny to me for some reason fr)

Honestly though I'm unsure about Acausality type 5 considering nothing implies a form of causality, I'd argue it's a possibly too at best

If you ask me, it'll be like this;
• Paraconsistent Physiology (Type 1), possibly Paraconsistent Physiology (Type 2), Nonexistent Physiology (Type 1), possibly Nonexistent Physiology (Type 2) & Acausality (Type 4), possibly Acausality (Type 5)
The main problem I have with all the feats which is what @Vesxpura said too on dms is that well, they're implicitly stated and not explicitly stated (You should know this difference too more than me) which is sorta the main reason why even the 1-A is placed with a possibly rating, it's not that I oppose the verse or something like that but I don't think the scans are blatant enough to support for a full rating from the past few months, I think the staff would still disagree with a possibly rating for these but other than that it's outside what I could input anyway
 
they're implicitly stated and not explicitly stated
just to clarify, i dont have a problem with it being implicit. im all for analysing deeper into any literature, the point of interest is the fact that frankly the arguments are just interpretations of the scans not exactly something u would expect as an argument, that is, its not a logically valid conclusion, funnily enough, he tries to justify his interpretation by using other arguments that fall under this exact problem.
 
I know, I was trying to point out that the three of them being interacted by Shadow could give out some antifeats especially if it's physically

I think Paraconsistent Physiology type 2 is fine at maximum, their minimum one being type 1 (unrelated but shortening this to PP will always be funny to me for some reason fr)

Honestly though I'm unsure about Acausality type 5 considering nothing implies a form of causality, I'd argue it's a possibly too at best

If you ask me, it'll be like this;

The main problem I have with all the feats which is what @Vesxpura said too on dms is that well, they're implicitly stated and not explicitly stated (You should know this difference too more than me) which is sorta the main reason why even the 1-A is placed with a possibly rating, it's not that I oppose the verse or something like that but I don't think the scans are blatant enough to support for a full rating from the past few months, I think the staff would still disagree with a possibly rating for these but other than that it's outside what I could input anyway
Well, since the tier is being treated as a “possibly” rating, I can see the abilities being handled the same way. I don't have any objections to that, so, I guess this is fine.
 
just to clarify, i dont have a problem with it being implicit. im all for analysing deeper into any literature, the point of interest is the fact that frankly the arguments are just interpretations of the scans not exactly something u would expect as an argument, that is, its not a logically valid conclusion, funnily enough, he tries to justify his interpretation by using other arguments that fall under this exact problem.
We're over this.
 
@Vietthai96

Do you disagree with this thread in its entirety and think that it should be closed, or do you consider any of Udlmaster's points to be sensible here? 🙏
 
I disagree with Low 1-C, possibly 1-A for the Void. Though i can see Possibly Low 1-C for it

I disagree with Paraconsistent Physiology altogether. Ultima literally rejected this in the previous thread, i already linked his rejection in my comment, and i have similar thought as him about the evidence. This thread using the same argument from the previous thread

I disagree with Acausality Type 5, it should be Type 4

Nonexistent Physiology should be Nature Type 1
 
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I disagree with Low 1-C, possibly 1-A for the Void. Though i can see Possibly Low 1-C for it

I disagree with Paraconsistent Physiology altogether. Ultima literally rejected this in the previous thread, i already linked his rejection in my comment, and i have similar thought as him about the evidence. This thread using the same argument from the previous thread

I disagree with Acausality Type 5, it should be Type 4

Nonexistent Physiology should be Nature Type 1
Okay. That seems reasonable to me as well then. 🙏
 
Ultima literally rejected this in the previous thread, i already linked his rejection in my comment, and i have similar thought as him about the evidence. This thread using the same argument from the previous thread
Sorry, but it comes across as a bit dismissive, since there's a substantial amount of new evidence presented here that supports its credibility (I can pretty much list them). Much I'd like to agree with your decision, the previous threads doesn't have some of the scans presented in the OP and thus lack a complete analyzation. While of course there may be some similarities here and there, the overall premise of this thread is fundamentally different from the previous ones.

Like I already said earlier:
You'ee a bit late on that, the thread you're referring to was incomplete, as it lacked the necessary context behind the arguments being made (for example, there are no context as to what “life being an illusion” actually means). This thread, on the other hand, already addresses those points in full.

So there isn't much for to counter here beyond saying “it’s not the same argument”. Frankly, the counter-argument from that thread doesn’t really apply in this context.
 
@Vietthai96

Do you disagree with this thread in its entirety and think that it should be closed, or do you consider any of Udlmaster's points to be sensible here? 🙏
I never knew one disagree is enough to close it, since @DarkDragonMedeus is literally sharing the same view in putting a possibly rating as @Udlmaster puts it. Why do I get the feeling that you're trying to rush this thread into closing?
 
Huh? I don't see Ant suggest closing the thread, you can ask other staff to come to evaluate though, if you can convinces them to agree with you then it is good for you i guess
 
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Huh? I don't Ant suggest closing the thread, you can ask other staff to come to evaluate though, if you can convinces them to agree with you then it is good for you i guess
I wasn't referring to you there. That message was directed specifically at Ant, since from what I've seen in his previous replies, his immediate response always seems to be “should we close this”, and it somehow keeps coming up repeatedly when there's a slight disagreement on the thread. This surprised me.

should be closed
Should we close this thread?
Should we close this thread
 
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I wasn't referring to you there. That message was directed specifically at Ant, since from what I've seen in his previous replies, his immediate response always seems to be “should we close this”, and it somehow keeps coming up repeatedly when there's a slight disagreement on the thread. This surprised me.

Fr

Idk why is he acting like that when we already have an agreement from one mod
 
I disagree with Low 1-C, possibly 1-A for the Void. Though i can see Possibly Low 1-C for it

I disagree with Paraconsistent Physiology altogether. Ultima literally rejected this in the previous thread, i already linked his rejection in my comment, and i have similar thought as him about the evidence. This thread using the same argument from the previous thread

I disagree with Acausality Type 5, it should be Type 4

Nonexistent Physiology should be Nature Type 1
Shouldn't the upgrade be 2-A instead of possible low 1-C ?
The verse previously have a 2B and likely 2A cosmology in the Wiki because of the Architect, who is responsible for creating shadow fight verse with it having billions of timelines and possibly infinite timelines with him getting tier of 2B, likely 2A in the wiki page.
As now of there is proof of it being a bigger and superior multiverse?
 
Shouldn't the upgrade be 2-A instead of possible low 1-C ?
The verse previously have a 2B and likely 2A cosmology in the Wiki because of the Architect, who is responsible for creating shadow fight verse with it having billions of timelines and possibly infinite timelines with him getting tier of 2B, likely 2A in the wiki page.
As now of there is proof of it being a bigger and superior multiverse?
vro js let them have it atp. possibly low 1-C deadass does nothing,
 
I should also note, while I am more lenient with my evaluation, I also do not think the Paraconsistent physiology (type 3) is accurate either.
What about with: (Type 2) possibly (Type 3)

Honestly I am fine with it just having (Type 2).
 
Shouldn't the upgrade be 2-A instead of possible low 1-C ?
The verse previously have a 2B and likely 2A cosmology in the Wiki because of the Architect, who is responsible for creating shadow fight verse with it having billions of timelines and possibly infinite timelines with him getting tier of 2B, likely 2A in the wiki page.
As now of there is proof of it being a bigger and superior multiverse?
Deadass seeing the scan with your eyes closed. His stance on possibly rating for Low 1-C comes from the previous threads, which does have superiority over creations as a whole. This thread is kind of a complement to that.
 
What about with: (Type 2) possibly (Type 3)

Honestly I am fine with it just having (Type 2).
I don't think Plurality is accurate. The Tenebrous not using negations taken as information on the Nature of the Void would be Type 2 at most and Type 1 (if we take it as a duality-statement.)

This is because the Void would (on taking the statement as true) engage in a type of Positive Logic where it does not have a negation built in. This would be Type 1.

If we were to say ALL P is true, this would be a type of Trivialism-Positive Logic where the Truth value (duality) for everything would be True.

In both of these cases, these are dual-systems, not Plurality, they don't engage on a hidden 3rd option (neither) or 4th (either), just the primary two.

So I would say being fair and balanced it would be Paraconsistent Physiology (Type 1, possibly 2).
 
Huh?? Dimensionless places cannot be higher dimensions
That's not what I said though. I said undimensioned objects can scale to higher-dimensional tiers. I didn't say undimensioned objects can be higher-dimensional.
Unless this what the wiki follows
Pretty sure type 1 Beyond-Dimensional existence denotes that you can be undimensioned and still comparable to dimensional structures in general.
 
You can scale dimensionaless structure to your existing dimensioned structure and upscales from it if you have evidence for its quantitative superiority over the existing reality, of course it is harder than the old standard, but not impossible
 
It honestly would have been easier to read this if they just listed the scans by quote, without us having to click each one, and read what's actually stated versus the OP's interpretation.

The whole comparisons to monism thing was not needed at all.

Anyway, I disagree with 1-A, but I could see Low 1-C.
 
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