Regarding semi-canon info being used to scale to main canon

[Peter1129]

Basically the question in the title. So here's basically the gist of it. DanMachi is a series where the main canon is the various novels (DanMachi, Sword Oratoria, Familia Chronicles, Heroic Myth, Orario Tales) and a few anniversary events from the gacha game, DanMemo (Argonaut, Astrea Record, Knights of Fianna). And here comes the problem. The author, Fujino Omori, is known for throwing in canon info in the various non-canon, semi-canon, what if stories that he himself writes and also goes on his Twitter account to say many of these events have occurred in canon as well.

Examples

DanMemo 1st Anniversary "Grand Day" is non-canon but written by Fujino Omori just like everything else in the series

However it goes into some detail about the defeat of Behemoth of the Three Great Quest and who the participants were as well as how potent its poison abilities are something we never learned in canon outside of getting a bit of hints here and there. With Omori posting on Twitter and dropping a hint on who it was that defeated it years before it was revealed in canon

Epimetheus' diary from the DanMemo 4th Anniversary "Aedes Vesta" also revealed the truth that black monsters cannot be harmed by arcanum. A whole year before this was revealed in the canon DanMemo 5th Anniversary "Knights of Fianna".

Omori has also went on his Twitter and states that the extra story for Aedes Vesta with Epimetheus meeting Argonaut (now Navis) is in fact canon. And implied that the divergence from canon is that Argonaut for some reason never went back to see him again like in Knights of Fianna hence leading to the events of Aedes Vesta. So rather than it being outright non-canon or semi-canon this is more so a what if branch story.

Heck Omori even went as far as to reveal the origin of the Three Great Quests (the literally final goal of the series) within this non-canon event and confirms all this backstory event in the event is in fact canon and the reason the Three Great Quests even exist in the first place

So now my question is. Can the scaling and statements for these lore canon characters like Epimetheus and Behemoth in these non-canon/semi-canon/what if events be used as scaling for the actual canon. They are all written by the author who has explicitly added in canon info for them within these events so their feats in these events should also be canon. Since none of these lore characters exist in present day as they are either dead or never showed up in present day but they are canon as they participated in the major canon events of the past. And some of the feats shown within the events are feats they performed themselves or are explicitly stated to scale to which could actually give the top tiers in canon who have no feats other than pure upscaling from a lower feat something more direct to scale to.

 

[Marciooblo]

adding to this: there is no reason to believe characters in A or B "what if" stories are for some reason weaker or stronger in it unless directly stated, if the behemoth alternative, while not present in canon, is stated in the what if story itself to be weaker than the real behemoth, then what that means is from Omori's perspective, this is how strong the behemoth is aka this is how the author himself views how strong these characters can do in canon. Easy example: Dragon ball heroes has no involvement from Toriyama and it's feats are very much stronger than anything in canon, so these shouldn't apply, but DB Kakarot is a game written by Toriyama, so whatever is stated there has more relevance to canon bc the author was directly involved in it despite the game itself not being canon

 

[Gimme-a-break-with-this-username-thing]

Maybe not my place to say this since I haven't catched up to the verse at all. But as far as I know, as long the semi-canon story does not contradict the main canon written by the author and is still within the author's narrative vision, and act/serve more as a lore extension, I think it's mostly fine. There should be a lot of verses here having similar extensions like that.

 

[IDK3465]

The main canon is still prioritized if there are any contradictions, but other than that, I don't really see the problem in using stuff from the what-if stories/anniversary events when it's literally the same guy who's writing both, and they frequently contribute to and allude to things in the actual main canon (of course, I don't know shit about the verse, so it'd probably be better to get some supporters here, but these are just my thoughts as an outsider)

 

[Peter1129]

The main canon is still prioritized if there are any contradictions, but other than that, I don't really see the problem in using stuff from the what-if stories/anniversary events when it's literally the same guy who's writing both, and they frequently contribute to and allude to things in the actual main canon (of course, I don't know shit about the verse, so it'd probably be better to get some supporters here, but these are just my thoughts as an outsider)

There’s not many active supporters for the series and none of us were sure hence I proposed making a thread regarding it. Not to mention I think this falls under a weird thing about canonicity for scaling that’s not exactly written in the canonicity rules.

Although now that you mentioned it I do think there are a few profiles that scale with what ifs made by the author. So maybe we were allowed to scale using these semi-canon events as long as they were written by the same author like you said.