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Yeah, my bad posted the wrong image. Fixed now.
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My Hero Academia: Wild Card proposal for Shigaraki but we move (Plus All For One addition)
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Yeah, my bad posted the wrong image. Fixed now.
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The current general consensus from what it looks like is ShigaAFO's last stand was him being completely hollowed out with like no organs or brain
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Yeah there can't be a brain inside there its just metal wires
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Ngl theres still a lot of him remaining that we dont see the insides clearly, so i wouldnt really say he doesnt have ANY organ or brain left. If he was just like cut up a little more then i would agree with High Mid but since his torso and head are still there i can only see MidThe current general consensus from what it looks like is ShigaAFO's last stand was him being completely hollowed out with like no organs or brain
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IDK his head looks completely hollow to me. You can see the light shining right behind his eyes, bro has no brain left. You can debate whether this is regen, but if it is it’s absolutely High-mid. I’m just arguing higher based on Shiggy, Star and Nana’s statements.
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When did AFO said that he would be able to regen if it wasnt for the soul damage plus his quirks ******* up ? Was it before or after thisThe current general consensus from what it looks like is ShigaAFO's last stand was him being completely hollowed out with like no organs or brain
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i think its the fact that shiggyafo survived this and continued to live and that if he had the regen quirk still he would likely be able to regen from this since he lived but idk if thats what they tryna say here
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He says both after he gets his new body and when Izuku hits him in 423. It’s not letting me post scans yet but I will once I’m able to
Edit: I’ll just link them. They’re all here
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High-Mid is fine yeah and @Metalballrun's explanations
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W! I agree.
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Ngl after reading through his dialouge and having a better understanding of the flow of events, i dont think its implied that he would be able to regen all that damage with regen. Its just that up until Deku hit him, he didnt notice he wasnt healing at all since everyone was overloading his concentration via Danger sense. Not to mention all of this was BEFORE he starts crumbling to the state we all are arguing about Mid or High Mid. Basically the statement refer to an earlier point and damage in the fight not what we were all debating, so i dont think the statement is usableHe says both after he gets his new body and when Izuku hits him in 423. It’s not letting me post scans yet but I will once I’m able to
Edit: I’ll just link them. They’re all here
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That’s why OP isn’t trying to make it a direct upgrade but a possibility.
if he’s still alive technically the regen should work, but given we never got to see that we can’t say for sure but it’s likely.
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I dont think therese any causual relation indicating that. All Shigaraki ever said was "Damn, ever since the soul clash my body aint healing even after all this fighting, how did i not notice" THEN his body crumbled from Dekus punch, nothing was ever said or implied afterward that his regen, were it activated, would be able to heal him in that state, especially when it never showed such capability. Basically that statement is irrelavant to the conversation since it refer to an earlier point in the fight, before he starts to break apart.
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Him crumbling away was the result of spiritual damage.
Also I dont really understand this concern. You said Mid Regen is way more than enough to regenerate from this damage but now you’re saying it might be beyond his capability. Isn’t this basically saying that Shigaraki’s current accepted Mid Regeneration value should be downgraded? Even though the guy can regenerate an entire body from a decapitated head/damaged brain? Like the only reason the Nomus can’t regenerate beyond that because destroying their head insta kills them and prevents them from using their quirks. Which is shown to not apply to Shigaraki considering he’s alive and still able to use quirks in his completely hollowed state.
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Well previously i thought that Mid regen was enough but then yall start saying stuff about how hes missing all of his organs and brain, and is completely hollowed out that makes me lean into needing High Mid to recover, granted Mid could still be enough for all i know as i dont really know the upperlimit of Mid regen. But ever since seeing the scans, the statement doesnt really have any relation to his current state of injury and only refer to all the damage he took before receiving the punch, not after, so i dont think his usual Regen quirk have any implications or statements of recovering the state he is in ASSUMING it needed High Mid, if all it needed is Mid then yeah he would be able to heal if his quirk is there
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There are no statement that said his usual regen could heal him from the crumble state he is in during the Final War
So the only argument for higher regen are all the "completely destroyed/vaporized/atomized" stuff
These scans only refer to the damage he took before he starts to break apart
So the only argument for higher regen are all the "completely destroyed/vaporized/atomized" stuff
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We are trying to get a possible here, Shigaraki saying his regen isn’t working isn’t the main point.
It’s the fact that he was still alive in that state meaning it’s possible that his regen would have activated. We know as long as they’re alive it activated
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Another way to look at it is how the quirk works.
So Shigaraki can regenerate an entirely new body off of a decapitated head. The inferior nomus cannot regenerate as a decapitated head if their brain is destroyed as it kills them instantly and stops them from using any quirk. However, as we see with Shigaraki, he can stay alive and use his quirks with no internal organs or a brain remaining. Meaning decapitating Shigaraki and even destroying his brain isn’t enough to prevent him from regeneration. Which makes the statements make more sense and why all attempts to kill Shigaraki were ones that would completely annihilate him.
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Wildcard proposal was a really good title for this
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Btw just a reminder this crt isn’t just about Shigaraki’s regen. I proposed AFO having self soul manip so vote pls
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I agree
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Agree on self soul manip, metal manip, body control and Immortality t2 (tho i prefer Limited t2) for AFO/Shiggy
Disagree with High Mid regen for Shigaraki. Just because he remained alive thanks to his Immo doesnt mean his regen would suddenly be able to heal him past its feats and displays. Also where was it stated that the Regen quirk would be able to heal its user of all injury (NLF) as long as there still alive
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I’m fine with Shiggy’s regen just being a possibly for now. I do fell it should be higher though, personally. It should be noted on the profile that he doesn’t have the Nomu’s brain weakness though and his accepted regen should probably specified to be the higher end of Mid regen.
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The reason it could be interpreted as referring to the maximum output of the Delaware Smash and the blow that ripped off his arm is that it emphasizes he has too much to protect, the reason he released all that energy indirectly being to prevent the detonation of Mount Fuji.
Deku couldn't channel that energy directly against Shigaraki, considering that the attack that ripped off his arm was aimed directly at Shigaraki, it makes more sense to refer to the Delaware Smash.
This was the biggest threat Shiagraki detected with the danger sensor: the number of alarms that go off just from the fa-jin's charge
The difference between this attack and the previous one is that Deku did aim directly at Tomura when he ripped off his arm, but Tomura managed to react.
Furthermore, the second blow did hit the body directly, but only the arm, while the Delaware Smash only affected him with its wind shockwave.
And another thing, when Deku hits Shigaraki's Quirkless Flying UA, his torso flies off, leaving a large hole where there's really nothing there. At that moment, his adaptation led him to regenerate a new upper body instead of simply healing, discarding the old head as well.
I'm highlighting this mainly to clarify that if needed, Shigaraki can regenerate another head even without regeneration.
Deku couldn't channel that energy directly against Shigaraki, considering that the attack that ripped off his arm was aimed directly at Shigaraki, it makes more sense to refer to the Delaware Smash.
This was the biggest threat Shiagraki detected with the danger sensor: the number of alarms that go off just from the fa-jin's charge
The difference between this attack and the previous one is that Deku did aim directly at Tomura when he ripped off his arm, but Tomura managed to react.
Furthermore, the second blow did hit the body directly, but only the arm, while the Delaware Smash only affected him with its wind shockwave.
And another thing, when Deku hits Shigaraki's Quirkless Flying UA, his torso flies off, leaving a large hole where there's really nothing there. At that moment, his adaptation led him to regenerate a new upper body instead of simply healing, discarding the old head as well.
I'm highlighting this mainly to clarify that if needed, Shigaraki can regenerate another head even without regeneration.
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Agree to the OP
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could you ping @Therefir too?
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Therefir is probably too busy with work
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The all for once additions are fine and really straight forward.
Possibly High-Mid Regen for Shigaraki is ok based on all the points provided above and in the OP. It’s not normal Mid Regen that allowed him to stay alive and Shiggy seemingly lacks the nomu brain weakness.
So I don’t have qualms there. It has basis
Possibly High-Mid Regen for Shigaraki is ok based on all the points provided above and in the OP. It’s not normal Mid Regen that allowed him to stay alive and Shiggy seemingly lacks the nomu brain weakness.
So I don’t have qualms there. It has basis
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Hey Vietthai can you ping evaluating staffs @DarkDragonMedeus @Nierre @Elizhaa @Godernet please, (I would ask Reiner and Twilight but I already asked twice
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Oh hey. Did you actually have the thread watched since day one lol. Also thanks.
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