All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[Gp972]

No thread in the last two years has had people in the general arguing like their lives are on the line as badly as this. Actual ******* biblical event in the VS DB timeline just dropped on a random Monday

Well, now they want to screw up AP's ratings

 

[Mommyleona]

Who’s Scarlet?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

No one else was in the room where it happened...

 

[Gp972]

I got two calcs

 

[Rodriiogo]

All because M3X and Rodri argued about some dumb shi and then Scarlet dared him to nuke the multiplier stacking, but you didn't hear that from me

I want to add that this is entirely Scarlet's fault actually

 

[Nullflowerblush]

@Nullflowerblush a bit Off-topic, but I saw your blog about the size of Namek and in DBZ Kakarot, both of Namek's suns are yellow.

Based off of? Every full colored and limited colored page throughout the original series featuring the suns established Namek has: a light orange sun with dark belts like Jupiter, the closest; an orangish red sun farther away; and a bluish white sun much farther out in deep space.

Are 19 and 20's eye beams described light beams at all?

Funnily enough, no. As far as I know, they are exclusively referred to as "beams" (ビーム bīmu).

 

[Gp972]

Based off of? Every full colored and limited colored page throughout the original series featuring the suns established Namek has: a light orange sun with dark belts like Jupiter, the closest; an orangish red sun farther away; and a bluish white sun much farther out in deep space.

Dbz kakarot

I honestly don't know if it's useful.

 

[MannyQ361]

What about Chi-Chi's helmet laser or the Battle Jacket laser?

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Dbz kakarot

I honestly don't know if it's useful.

Yeah, it's a PLANET. It has ATMOSPHERE. DBZ Kakarot being used as evidence for sun is honestly terrible.

 

[Breadbear83]

Btw does statements from DBS manga or anime have any value on Toei calcs?

I know dbz Kai is canon to DBS anime but the fillers aren't

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Yeah, it's a PLANET. It has ATMOSPHERE.

Are you talking about Namek or the giant, yellow celestial body in the sky? Are you saying it has an atmosphere because it has belts?

 

[Kellex]

I got two calcs

I'm not a calc member, I'm more of a casual DBZ fan, but the dialogue in the second calc is probably an exaggeration.
If we were to really take it seriously, which I assumed you used the observable universe's size, then use the radius instead cause Earth is in the center of it.
EDIT: I'm dumb

 

[Gp972]

I'm not a calc member, I'm more of a casual DBZ fan, but the dialogue in the second calc is probably an exaggeration.
If we were to really take it seriously, which I assumed you used the observable universe's size, then use the radius instead cause Earth is in the center of it.

In db it's on the edge

 

[Breadbear83]

I'm not a calc member, I'm more of a casual DBZ fan, but the dialogue in the second calc is probably an exaggeration.
If we were to really take it seriously, which I assumed you used the observable universe's size, then use the radius instead cause Earth is in the center of it.

Earth was stated in DBS manga and anime to be in the border of the universe by bulma, so the whole diameter to the other border

Even then it's babidis glazing Majin Buu attack, he isn't the one pushing Gohan, doesn't sounds believable

 

[Gp972]

How about this one?

 

[Kellex]

In db it's on the edge

Earth was stated in DBS manga and anime to be in the border of the universe by bulma, so the whole diameter to the other border

Well now I feel stupid

 

[Nierre]

What about Chi-Chi's helmet laser or the Battle Jacket laser?

Are you talking about Namek or the giant, yellow celestial body in the sky? Are you saying it has an atmosphere because it has belts?

curious about this if you don't mind as well

 

[Breadbear83]

What about Chi-Chi's helmet laser or the Battle Jacket laser?

Out of the lasers properties they have, I only see chichis laser being a straight line, and battle jacket also goes In a straight line and seems to melt the floor

That's too low to fit the laser dodging feats standards

 

[Omegabronic]

All because M3X and Rodri argued about some dumb shi and then Scarlet dared him to nuke the multiplier stacking, but you didn't hear that from me

TBF it always seemed strange how we apply Multipliers to speed and power but not like, Lifting Strenght and Stamina... i thoight those would be Ki dependent too?

 

[Omegabronic]

Dbz kakarot

I honestly don't know if it's useful.

The first one looks like a Gas Giant more than anything

 

[Gp972]

Which one makes more sense to use?

Mine or this

 

[Nierre]

TBF it always seemed strange how we apply Multipliers to speed and power but not like, Lifting Strenght and Stamina... i thoight those would be Ki dependent too?

why stamina?

 

[Breadbear83]

power but not like, Lifting Strenght and Stamina... i thoight those would be Ki dependent too

Which one makes more sense to use?

Mine or this

I guess yours, cuz that video specifically ends when the attack reaches the sun and not when it engulfing the whole solar system

 

[Gp972]

I guess yours, cuz that video specifically ends when the attack reaches the sun and not when it engulfing the whole solar system

Although it could also be the 2nd, in the one of roshi they use the timeframe of the anime and from the game they only used the feat of destroying the sun from the earth

 

[Omegabronic]

why stamina?

i mean, Ki is also the Stamina source, if Multipliers multiply the Ki, then the energy source would be multiplied too... no?

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Are you talking about Namek or the giant, yellow celestial body in the sky? Are you saying it has an atmosphere because it has belts?

Yes, I'm talking about the yellow planet with brown clouds that look exactly how namek looks from outer space.

This is a planet.

You wouldn't be able to see the surface of the sun if it was that close.
It doesn't have the same effect of brightness that makes it completely white like the sun further away from it.

The fact it's yellow and has the slightest hint of a glow is enough for you to conclude this obvious planet is a sun?

 

[GodlyCharmander]

i mean, Ki is also the Stamina source, if Multipliers multiply the Ki, then the energy source would be multiplied too... no?

No? Because forms consume more stamina than base form.

 

[Robo432343]

if namek was that big the explosion would have created a black hole

 

[AyOgUyS]

hi

 

[Huesito88]

hi

Goodbye

 

[AyOgUyS]

Goodbye

noooooo

 

[AyOgUyS]

TBF it always seemed strange how we apply Multipliers to speed and power but not like, Lifting Strenght and Stamina... i thoight those would be Ki dependent too?

I would help with the LS stuff but i'm too busy in my own lil cave

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

LS is weird cause we both take into account all its anti-feats (Why the multipliers aren't applied to it) but we also ignore them cause our LS calcs are higher sooo

 

[Huesito88]

I would help with the LS stuff but i'm too busy in my own lil cave

Looking at 2-d girls huh

 

[Fezzih_007]

TBF it always seemed strange how we apply Multipliers to speed and power but not like, Lifting Strenght

I trought It was because of Anti-feats that LS have.

 

[Gp972]

TBF it always seemed strange how we apply Multipliers to speed and power but not like, Lifting Strenght and Stamina... i thoight those would be Ki dependent too?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Gp972/Dragon_ball_Lifting_Strength

Look

 

[Breadbear83]

I would help with the LS stuff but i'm too busy in my own lil cave

I calculated based on Gp972 updated statistical ratings for DBZ manga that if we used tao Pai Pai Class M feat, we would have Class Y SSJ3 Gotenks via multipliers

That's sounds worse than even the speed ratings tbh

 

[Mommyleona]

Just get everyone to infinite speed already duuuh

 

[Huesito88]

Just get everyone to infinite speed already duuuh

There's a good chance it'll just be seen as a outliner and make the MFTL+ values way lower

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

There's a good chance it'll just be seen as a outliner and make the MFTL+ values way lower

Counterpoint: Infinite > MFTL+