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"I Heard Maids are pretty strong in this world ! Lets Fight !"
Rules :
1. Speed is equalised
2. Distance : 500 Metres
3. Location : Kaito's Mansion
4. Both H3A (Goku starts at SSJ1 but can transform higher. Illness starts Unfocused but can heighten it)
5. Early Majin Buu Saga Goku (Dead) is used
Nah, she has the potential to negate low godly. More interested in ki with magic, since illness reads the opponents magic power to read their fighting style, use their magic power against them. It helps her elude and control their power, anticipating their moves till it becomes precog. Part of her fighting style depends on her opponents fighting style which is what made it effective
Which typically helps her cleanly evade/ward off stuff that can one shot her to the point she's like nearly never hit. But can she view ki like magic, if so she may have an edge until goku transforms. But magic also has pretty high amps so
she infects Goku with the "Illness" wich causes the "symptoms".
But reading her page most of the intelligence and technique sessions make me think she's more likely to fight him H2H than spam hax?
Ki is never stated to be magic, in Dragon Ball those are two different things as well
But this seems like a AP stomp? Hopefully I'm not misinterpreting this but Illness scales to characters that are stated to be a billion or trillion times stronger than Upper Count rank, which I assume are the baseline for the High 3-A scaling of the verse (?) Which is vastly above Goku's peak of one-shotting characters 40,000x the baseline:
Post-RoSaT Base Goku is comparable to restricted SSJ Broly, who has his High 3-A feat.
Becomes 50x stronger as an SSJ, Cell is superior.
Super Perfect Cell is 2x stronger than before.
Other World Tournament Base Goku becomes comparable to him, and grows stronger over the course of 7 years.
So essentially:
Base: 50 x 2 = >>>100
SSJ (50x): >>>5,000
SSJ2 (100x): >>>10,000
SSJ3 (400x): >>>40,000
Kamehameha: One-shots those comparable to form he takes.
If speed is equalised in the form Goku starts in, then he should be 2x to 8x faster with the forms he takes on top of that
@Epiccheev Illness is a martial artist yea, thing is once you get to her level hax doesn't play that big a part, so its a bit weird to cross over Isekai at Peace rules to other verses.
The general assumption is hax doesn't work, so why bother using it besides stuff like negating regen or manipulating causality to make attacks miss or hit.
@StarShooter80 It's more about downscaling, infinity/finite number=infinity, the ones with the infinite feats are 6 Kings like Alice via scaling to Nerfed Eden who can create and destroy infinite spaces, and Chronois who thinking about it has a better feat than Alice, since she can tank the destruction of all the stuff within a world (not the world itself), and worlds are bigger than universes which are infinite.
Anyway Peak Counts/Dukes like Illness scale above High Rank Counts who are a billion to a trillion times weaker than Alice/Chronois.
Ki is never stated to be magic, in Dragon Ball those are two different things as well
But this seems like a AP stomp? Hopefully I'm not misinterpreting this but Illness scales to characters that are stated to be a billion or trillion times stronger than Upper Count rank, which I assume are the baseline for the High 3-A scaling of the verse (?) Which is vastly above Goku's peak of one-shotting characters 40,000x the baseline:
Post-RoSaT Base Goku is comparable to restricted SSJ Broly, who has his High 3-A feat.
Becomes 50x stronger as an SSJ, Cell is superior.
Super Perfect Cell is 2x stronger than before.
Other World Tournament Base Goku becomes comparable to him, and grows stronger over the course of 7 years.
So essentially:
Base: 50 x 2 = >>>100
SSJ (50x): >>>5,000
SSJ2 (100x): >>>10,000
SSJ3 (400x): >>>40,000
Kamehameha: One-shots those comparable to form he takes.
If speed is equalised in the form Goku starts in, then he should be 2x to 8x faster with the forms he takes on top of that
Yeah I mean like in a verse equal setting. Ki isn't magic tho they function similar as a UES I think? Both Amp stats, both include the metaphysical and soul/spirit, in both series everyone has it.
Both are strongly tied to life fore and emotion. Like magic power is part of the soul which includes emotion dwelling within it.
Never rlly thought about it since match ups rarely done, but I guess they're surprisingly similar-ish for the equalize standards maybe
This is kind of headcanonish but I assume Peak Counts are closer to Six Kings then to High Counts who downscales from baseline
regardless.. Goku has the AP Advantage here although Illness should have some of durability negation or landing attacks with casuality manip. Her stamina is really good and she should have ways to incap goku
Goku can easily one shot her but don't think it will matter here as much as incapping is his only way to win here
Not really amps (body strengthening) is why the characters are rated at their current tiers, without it, they wouldn't be that much different from a normal person with obvious exceptions like Lilia who is naturally superhuman, and 6 Kings who could tank planet level attacks.
So, there isnt any additional amps on top of what is already there unless I am forgetting something.
Not really amps (body strengthening) is why the characters are rated at their current tiers, without it, they wouldn't be that much different from a normal person with obvious exceptions like Lilia who is naturally superhuman, and 6 Kings who could tank planet level attacks.
So, there isnt any additional amps on top of what is already there unless I am forgetting something.
From what we know magic can further be used to strengthen yourself cant it? Its not like body strengthening of hundreds of times is what allows someone to reach high 3A. They should already reach that from training and making that strength passive. And if you're good at body strengthening you can use it as a technique.
Unless it's just considered by the mid ranks everyone has infinite times body strengthening...I dunno. Maybe I also read it wrong
From what we know magic can further be used to strengthen yourself cant it? Its not like body strengthening of hundreds of times is what allows someone to reach high 3A. They should already reach that from training and making that strength passive. And if you're good at body strengthening you can use it as a technique.
Unless it's just considered by the mid ranks everyone has infinite times body strengthening...I dunno. Maybe I also read it wrong
Hina from memory had hundreds of times body strengthening and can move at the speed of sound or faster? Which tracks with amp.
But yea I do believe everyone high count and above have infinite amps, difference between them and other series like Re Zero is the amps aren't conscious, once its active it's maintained 24/7.
Also a recent chapters explains what I said that without the amps the characters aren't that difference from normal humans, but Lilia is built different.
Hina from memory had hundreds of times body strengthening and can move at the speed of sound or faster? Which tracks with amp.
But yea I do believe everyone high count and above have infinite amps, difference between them and other series like Re Zero is the amps aren't conscious, once its active it's maintained 24/7.
Also a recent chapters explains what I said that without the amps the characters aren't that difference from normal humans, but Lilia is built different.
Yeah I guess that does track. Weren't there other active amps? I vaguely recall 3-4 times or something (but that may have been the 3-4 times one that may have been the maid amps )
Aside from that though I think the accelerating thought and perception speed stuff is still usable? But based on the fact it goes hand in hand with the physical buffs..dunno what to think if that's considered infinite amp
Lilia has an amp due to time authority which is around 3-4 times, and Sieg i believe also has an additional amp on top of her normal stats, none of those are anything crazy though.
Its the 6 Kings who have the crazy amps like the 157,784,760x speed amp via time manipulation.
Huh Alice also has a stats amp technique in terms of speed, and that maid burst is 3 times. I guess illness would be able to use maid burst. Technically if a lower rank can use some sortve amp I'm sure a higher one can, but yeah no dB level stuff ther
The major craziness is the gaps between ranks like from Lilia or counts who are also h3A, to a peak count/duke which is what 8 million times..? Kind of nuts but not example an amp for stats equal. So mostly the focused eyes viewing stuff that can 1 shot her and superior to her as slow
And I mean infinite amps so technically but verse doesn't show inf speed like that so
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