The problem with this is Muken has no accepted size. People know its huge af but its infinite size statement is not accepted here from what I know. The time frame could be an issue from what I read here. Aizen has been sealed in the Muken for some time now, he could have been filling it up with his reiatsu since the time he was imprisoned. The senjumaru feat is more clear cut as we know it happened after she activated bankai and we know it spread across two realms which is accepted as separate universes and we also see the effects of her reiatsu hitting all the realms pretty quickly.Or Aizen filling Muken with his own spiritual energy
If you go back to the text, you'll see that it indicated that he did this during the meeting, because, literally, in order to activate his power, he had to unleash his spiritual power.
So Menos Grande's Cero is as fast as Cien's Cero right?
so why do you think his bankai which is a combination of his hollow and quincy prowess stacked on his shinigami wouldn't grant him that ability.
we have literally never seen his bankai power before what are you talking about? this is like using renji's fake bankai to say his real bankai shouldn't have the amount of abilities it does.
Sonion
cero are fixed
There is also ulquioura perception blitzing uryu too.
His Quincy and Hollow abiliites will remain Quincy and Hollow abilities. He has never shown any different.
What are you're talking about? Ichigo's shikai ability is to absorbed energy into his blade and shoot from it. His bankai just increase his speed, strength, and durability. A fake Bankai is still a fake bankai. Renji's Bankai look different but powers are similar, fire, explosion.
Bruh.
If the cero remains the same even as you get stronger, why would its speed increase?
Shunsui thinking Stark was going to fire a ordinary Cero doesn't imply all Ceros are fixed at the same strength or speed
The databook states the sword extends at 500 x his clapping speed. It does not state his sword extends 13 km in the time it takes Gin to clap. This isn't the way to save the verses speed scaling
That would just give the hogyoku higher levels of fate hax. Yes the kotosu would have fate manipulation since it can send you to different timeline
yh u can use that to derive a timeframe
If we use the speed of a clap it comes out at massively hyper sonic(faster then lightning downward stroke). Then times it by 500 it comes out at relativistc. However since gin lied it's probably a bit slower then that putting it at around sub relativistc
but thats does not change the speed scaling
its spacetime manipulation resistance
Gins not saying his bankai travels 13 km in the time it takes for him to clap though, so the best ur going to get by doing it this way is using a second for "instant".
Gang it's physically impossible for Ceros to be a fixed speed
i dont understand the chainscaling here ,There are too many inconsistencies to make this work perfectly here
Neither length nor the 500x are considered as true anymore, so nothing about Gin's bankai is usable anymore (outside of Buto ig)
Aaroniero didn't dodge light itself. He just had to be faster than the falling rubble which was blocking the light, before the hole was completely opened.
Technically, we don't know if he actually perception blitzed him, but based on scaling he's more than capable. Uryu confirmed he couldn't see Mayuri's Shunpo though. Who does calcs here? I've seen a calculation on that feat but I'm not 100% sure if it's valid. Should I post it anyways?
Funny enough, in the All but black book, this was said:
You didn't answer my question , why did cero remain the same even as Stark grew stronger?
if we use ichibe's 1000 ri speed feat
Wouldnt that be calc stacking?
Why do you think that?
Since there is no stated speed, you‘d be using a calc from Ichibei traveling that distance and applying that speed calc for the seiteitei royal palace distance. But don’t take my words as a fact as i‘m still learning all the rules for this site so please correct me if I’m wrong.
Maybe however the soul palace is invisible so you cant see it regardless even with clear skies. Tho ichigo does have a feat of traveling 1000s of kilometers in seconds on his way back from the palace. Using ang size he was about 2000km away from the serieite. He travel this distance in a few seconds since it was during the time people were reacting to him
