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Goku fights a Different Demon King (CC Goku vs Kuromueina 1 - 3 - 0)
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BoastJr
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Kuromueina is very Cheery and Nice most of the time but she posess Nigh Omniscient IQ with Extraordinary Genius level IQ Feats
I don't think its possible to trick her unless you are ayanokouji or something but even then chances are low
In of a battle she is pretty serious but resorts to CQC and Prologue
I don't think its possible to trick her unless you are ayanokouji or something but even then chances are low
In of a battle she is pretty serious but resorts to CQC and Prologue
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If it came down to it, couldn't Kuro pull a Shiro, flee to a higher dimension, and remotely attack Goku?
She has hyperversal range after all. Not that it would be necessary with Prologue, but its an interesting thought.
She has hyperversal range after all. Not that it would be necessary with Prologue, but its an interesting thought.
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Yes she can, but I don't see why she would need to since Goku can't interact with her to begin with.
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Why are we still debating this the match doesn't work 
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its not Prep time, its passive Hax
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That doesn't have interaction, thank you for bringing it up for the fifth time
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Its not a trick, just Eye catching distractions
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Its not interacting, She still can see things above around her right? its just a Eye Distraction
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She is not able to go Hyperversal dimensions in this key, she can just see and interact with Hyperversal dimensions
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We are trying to explain it to @KaramcaS, feel free to help out...Why are we still debating this the match doesn't work
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Goku could stall her with an argument I mentioned. If Kuro can’t sense Goku due to his layered extrasensory perception then it’s likely her starting move would be altered. All she’d know is that there’s a man standing right in front of her but she wouldn’t know if he’s an actual threat to her or not. SBA does allow her to know that she may need to take this battle seriously and she’s influenced under a winning mindset but she has no knowledge of Goku or anything of that sort. If she can’t sense him then it raises more skepticism.Why are we still debating this the match doesn't work
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Kuromuenia is Extraordinary Genius. She takes Nigh-Omniscient because she can see past present and future. Goku is also Extraordinary Genius
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I highly doubt that those passive hax have any meaningful visual effects
Plus, blinding a Nigh-Omniscient + Enhanced Senses entity? Really?
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She just can see Past Present Future and Goku has Higher Degree Layered Aca4 Aca1. Plus Goku has very Godly Enhanced Senses ?
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Look carefully, she does, the 7-D's in the verse have smurf range, its why they can perceive beings like Tiana who has many more dimensions than them.
World creators have cosmic senses to see the whole universe, and immediately perceive stuff happening in the past, present or future ie Shiro manipulate fate to bring the God of Fate closer to Kaito's parents, and Kuro immediately knowing what she did.
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Which is not Aca2 for it to prevent precognition entirely?
Why would his senses matter here?
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Like you said, She can percieve, not going to 12-D dimensions
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Goku has that too, with layers
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This one image tells me absolutely nothing in terms of context
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Because he have resistances to what he has
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A Passive Godly Haxly Aura that bigger than the Universe Tree, which can distract Kuro to doing something
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You need very explicit evidence beyond just "resistant to what he has" to justify Enhanced Senses resistance, as those are rare and the ability to see stuff isn't usually considered an ability in fiction
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All the Haxes you could count for Kuro (except Plot) exist for Goku in a much more layered and extensive form, plus much more powerfully. If you're going to suggest any abilities for Kuro other than Plot AE1, I want you to know this. The only thing preventing Goku from winning is Kuro's Plot AE1.
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Doing what exactly?
He's still visible and I suspect that the aura is semi-transparent
The starting distance also doesn't help.
Plus with her Nigh-Omniscience she can just find him either way, by knowing in which points she doesn't hit him
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Aside from plot manip against him, how do you think she could harm him?
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Perceive and interfere with, that's the wording there.
Anyway this is more of a tangent, since it doesn't really matter much here, this match hinges of plot ae and Prologue.
Speaking of enhanced senses, World Creators can hear the sound of bell, from another dimension, which is neat.
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Does Kuro have the necessary layers to sense Goku’s energy and power?
Would Kuro hypothetically start with any of this against a character she can’t sense? But before even answering that does she have anyway of reading into Goku’s power level? Any layers of sensory? Or even resistance negation?
I have no knowledge of this verse so I could be wrong but since you’re mentioning this the impression I’m getting is that Kuro is a world creator or possesses this cosmic awareness. Is it something that’s passive and if it isn’t how likely is she to use it?
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The universe tree aura has galaxy level range so again it isn't problem of Goku being not able to deliver his hax the main problem is kuro plot based AE and higher d hiding shenenigans pegasus mentions
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- Enhanced Extrasensory Perception (2 Layers; By clearing ones mind, Goku can react without the need for conscious thought, and can sense disturbances even when they aren't exhibiting energy. Can sense God Ki which cannot be sensed by beings who either isn't a God, possesses God Ki nor was trained to sense God Ki. Can even sense God of Destruction's Energy of DestructionPower of Destruction and Angel's Ki, which are even harder to sense than standard God Ki)
- Resistance to Extrasensory Perception (1 Layer; God Ki allows its possessors to sense God Ki, which is a Ki that cannot be sensed by beings who either have no God Ki or have not received the training to sense God Ki)
- Resistance to Power of Destruction: Enhanced Extrasensory Perception (2 Layers; Possessing Power of Destruction allows its user to sense Energy of DestructionPower of Destruction, a special type of God Ki which is harder to sense than standard God Ki)
- Resistance to Time God Abilities: Enhanced Senses & Extrasensory Perception (2 Layers; Time Birds can sense each other across dimensions, can sense Ki and even God Ki which cannot be sensed by being who isn't God, have God Ki or was trained to sense God Ki. Can even sense Angel's Ki and God of Destruction's Ki <Power of Destruction>, which is harder to sense than standard God Ki. Should scale to Supreme Kai of Time who capable of sensing beings across space-time/timelines, dimensions as both are Time God)
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What?
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Not infinite 7D. But the EP resistance is a good point though. I mentioned it earlier but no one replied. IIRC Goku has resistance to precognition so I don’t think Kuro is going to get any benefit from that. If she tries to outrange Goku by going into a higher playing field then I don’t think Goku is going to sit idly. He definitely has experience with something similar e.g Hit. Obviously Hit isn’t doing it at the same level but he’s phasing in and out of existence with his pocket dimension. Not to mention DBH/XV are full of people who casually time travel through raw speed and teleportation. Speaking of time travel, if he can’t sense her Ki signature then he’ll probably time travel to find her other variants. Pretty sure the immeasurable speed amps benefit him in that regard too.
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I haven’t got a clue
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When it comes to senses, Kuro could sense Tiana's power due to what I already mentioned about perceiving higher dimensions, Tiana has many more dimensions than her.
Once you get to Omnipotent level you gain access to the wider multiverse, this is why Alice who is currently 6-D is training to reach 7-D, because if Kaito decides to go to Tiana's world which has many more dimensions than Trinia which has 7, and seems to be some sort of quantum world, she couldn't follow him.
World Creator senses are passive, they actually intentionally turn it off so they enjoy games like volleyball of all things lol.
Once you get to Omnipotent level you gain access to the wider multiverse, this is why Alice who is currently 6-D is training to reach 7-D, because if Kaito decides to go to Tiana's world which has many more dimensions than Trinia which has 7, and seems to be some sort of quantum world, she couldn't follow him.
World Creator senses are passive, they actually intentionally turn it off so they enjoy games like volleyball of all things lol.
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8 Layered Enhanced Void Manipulation
8 Layered Enhanced Non-Physical Interaction: Void
8 Layered Resistance to Enhanced Non-Physical Interaction: Void
8 Layered Resistance to Enhanced Void Manipulation
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Our entire discussion is solely about plot manipulation. Aside from plot manipulation, Goku has a very very very huge advantage over Kuro in terms of Hax
Kuro's Wincoin: She needs to do something with plot manipulation before Goku summoning Arale (I don't know how plot manipulation wins fights, that's not important)
Goku's Wincoin: Summoning Arale before Kuro using her plot manipulation
Who acts first and which attack do they use? That's important. You said Kuro is a chill type, but Goku in this form is full of rage.
I think Goku's Passive Hax, which is galaxy-sized, will distract Kuro for even 0.0000001 seconds, so I believe Goku will summon Arale before her
Kuro's Wincoin: She needs to do something with plot manipulation before Goku summoning Arale (I don't know how plot manipulation wins fights, that's not important)
Goku's Wincoin: Summoning Arale before Kuro using her plot manipulation
Who acts first and which attack do they use? That's important. You said Kuro is a chill type, but Goku in this form is full of rage.
I think Goku's Passive Hax, which is galaxy-sized, will distract Kuro for even 0.0000001 seconds, so I believe Goku will summon Arale before her
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Goku also stomps her with Summoning Arale?
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