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Classroom of the Elite/Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e Discussion Thread

tbh I think Hosen belongs in the High Tier within the AP chain. In fact I believe he should be ranked significantly above Ichika.

Just by slapping Horikita he literally sent her flying. Even Ayanokoji praises the strike, noting that his slap carried as much power as a punch. Also the anime adaptation portrays this exact same feat.

The main point I want to address is that Horikita places the pain of Ichika’s kick to her ribs on the exact same threshold as Hosen’s slap. Even though Ichika was injured at the time, I still believe there is a very obvious gap here. That’s why scaling Hosen to High Tier is a safe bet.

You can also add this to the CRT, depending on whether you agree with me or not.
No

That was a extremely weakened Ichika, on the verge of collapse and in a state where she shouldn't be able to move

A healthy version of her would straight up one shot her weakened version and by proxy Hosen too
 
No

That was a extremely weakened Ichika, on the verge of collapse and in a state where she shouldn't be able to move

A healthy version of her would straight up one shot her weakened version and by proxy Hosen too

That’s not exactly how it is. Horikita thinks that Ichika's pain should be severe enough to affect her walking, yet Ichika clearly possesses the high pain tolerance to endure it. There is even an illustration showing her running during the fight. Also Horikita explicitly notes that Hosen is strong enough to gain an advantage even against Amasawa. Considering Hosen did that much damage to Horikita with just a casual slap, I still think Hosen scales higher
 
That’s not exactly how it is. Horikita thinks that Ichika's pain should be severe enough to affect her walking, yet Ichika clearly possesses the high pain tolerance to endure it. There is even an illustration showing her running during the fight. Also Horikita explicitly notes that Hosen is strong enough to gain an advantage even against Amasawa. Considering Hosen did that much damage to Horikita with just a casual slap, I still think Hosen scales higher
Supernatural willpower is doing it's thing

Again, Hosen was still compared to a weakened Ichika, Suzune has no idea of how her full power would be
 
Supernatural willpower is doing it's thing

Again, Hosen was still compared to a weakened Ichika, Suzune has no idea of how her full power would be
Supernatural Willpower only lets Ichika push through the pain, it doesn't magically heal her or change her actual AP. Also Suzune not knowing Ichika's full power goes both ways, as she only took a single casual slap from Hosen. Yet, that effortless slap still matched the damage of Ichika's kick to Horikita's rib
 
Supernatural Willpower only lets Ichika push through the pain, it doesn't magically heal her or change her actual AP. Also Suzune not knowing Ichika's full power goes both ways, as she only took a single casual slap from Hosen. Yet, that effortless slap still matched the damage of Ichika's kick to Horikita's rib
An effortless slap does not make you comparable to the full power of someone who is extremely injured

He can upscale a weakened Ichika sure, but the 29,4 KJ feat was done by a fully healed Ichika so like

He is still 4.6 KJ lol (upscales) and not (one shots)
 
Or rather, no, he won't scale to her

Ichika was still toying with Ibuki and Suzune and could even blitz them effortlessly
 
An effortless slap does not make you comparable to the full power of someone who is extremely injured

He can upscale a weakened Ichika sure, but the 29,4 KJ feat was done by a fully healed Ichika so like

He is still 4.6 KJ lol (upscales) and not (one shots)
An effortless slap might not scale to a healthy version, but if it's being put on the exact same threshold as a kick to the ribs, that is not something you can just ignore. A kick to the ribs directly damages the respiratory system, compromises internal organs, and impairs movement because every single breath forces that injured area to move. Horikita couldn't even breath atp tho. Ichika targeted the most vulnerable part of the body, yet that strike only matched the damage of a casual slap from Hosen. You can't just narrative-diff a fundamental gap in raw strength like that

Ichika was still toying with Ibuki and Suzune and could even blitz them effortlessly
yeah until her supernatural willpower stop working 😭
 
An effortless slap might not scale to a healthy version, but if it's being put on the exact same threshold as a kick to the ribs, that is not something you can just ignore. A kick to the ribs directly damages the respiratory system, compromises internal organs, and impairs movement because every single breath forces that injured area to move. Horikita couldn't even breath atp tho. Ichika targeted the most vulnerable part of the body, yet that strike only matched the damage of a casual slap from Hosen. You can't just narrative-diff a fundamental gap in raw strength like that


yeah until her supernatural willpower stop working 😭
It still doesn't scale because Ichika was also holding back, it's the point i was trying to make
 
Kiryuin got a cliff jumping feat in the new episode if you guys are interested in calcing that. It should be rather straightforward since we got a good shot for it.
 
I'm generally apprehensive of watching anime adaptations but I've read all of COTE. Is the adaptation any good
 
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Next episode is gonna start with Koenji. I wonder if he’s gonna give us any feats lol
 
I'm generally apprehensive of watching anime adaptations but I've read all of COTE. Is the adaptation any good
No. I hate how much they butchered Koji's characterization. Stuff like removing his inner doubts during his confession to Kei, in favor of making him look like an edgy manipulator pisses me off.
 
Speaking of feats. How much upscaling would the anime give the verse. I have a gut feeling they will pull some BS in the next coming fights.
 
He has more stuff now tho

He got stat buffs + skill buffs + new abilities
Low-key y'all on fraud watch after that thread.

Somehow the mf that can dodge bullets can't beat a telepath with 0 skills in fighting.

Don't put Koji in that fight it's bad image. There are no win conditions for that. Koji wins he beat up a 4-year old, he lost he got heated by a dumb 4-year old
 
Low-key y'all on fraud watch after that thread.

Somehow the mf that can dodge bullets can't beat a telepath with 0 skills in fighting.

Don't put Koji in that fight it's bad image. There are no win conditions for that. Koji wins he beat up a 4-year old, he lost he got heated by a dumb 4-year old
I ain't doing a match with her

The votes for Anya were not convincing at all

In her weakness tab it says she can be overloaded by the sheer amount of information she recieves with telepathy, Koji can think of stuff that would normally fry the brain of someone due to the sheer quantity of information

People straight up ignored that
 
On their defense. It's funny.

There should have been an argument that If Anya dodged the first punch what is stopping Koji in punching Anya's small ass body mid-dodge. Last I check Koji has enough skill to pull that off.

But I guess "telepath, reading minds" anyways.
 
Either that or the fact that Anya's AP was 74 KJ and Koji's durability was 49,3 KJ so the difference is like 1.5x or so

Ayanokouji is superhuman and Anya is average stamina, and somehow Koji can't outlast this when he has feats of him tanking stronger attacks than him as a kid for years?

That's BS
 
Either that or the fact that Anya's AP was 74 KJ and Koji's durability was 49,4 KJ so the difference is like 1.5x or so

Ayanokouji is superhuman and Anya is average stamina, and somehow Koji can't outlast this when he has feats of him tanking stronger attacks than him as a kid for years?

That's BS
Rule of "Would it be funny if he lose because why not".
 
Hypothetically if papa Koenji did a feat that’s better than any AP feat in the verse. Would he be the only person to technically scale to it lol
 
 

your goat is up against another little girl
 
It's considered a stomp

7-B durability and sub rel reaction or perception with emergency flow state

You even said that
7B was removed by zab and changed to varying, the amp is also not for LS so Kouji can still diff her. Reaction and perception amp also only allows her to dodge one attack

if she could use different types of magic besides jiwald for attacking then things could have been different but jiwald needs to be pointed with the finger
 
7B was removed by zab and changed to varying, the amp is also not for LS so Kouji can still diff her. Reaction and perception amp also only allows her to dodge one attack
And how do we know the varying rating is not in the MJ ranges considering she should be able to at least tank attacks that have equal or higher AP than Subaru's AP?
 
And how do we know the varying rating is not in the MJ ranges considering she should be able to at least tank attacks that have equal or higher AP than Subaru's AP?
I said it above but the amp isnt for the LS, Kouji can still LS diff her and she doesn't have any melee skill feats so Kouji outskills hard
 
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