Batman vs M • (0-0-0)

[MichaelCalistro]

This is a very original thread, I think.

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Batman, the Caped Crusader

VS

M, the Black King

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Batman with Preparation Powers • Peak M • Standard Battle Assumptions • Speed is equalized • In a very large indestructible barren world

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Theme:

 

[Rgerdeena]

Doesn’t m just blitz because he’s nigh omnipresent I hate how this wiki treats omnipresence

 

[MichaelCalistro]

Doesn’t m just blitz because he’s nigh omnipresent I hate how this wiki treats omnipresence

I mean M could, but this is Batman with preparation that we are talking about here, so Batman could have an answer to that because he is Batman.

 

[Rgerdeena]

I mean M could, but this is Batman with preparation that we are talking about here, so Batman could have an answer to that because he is Batman.

Um, this isn’t a serious argument right?, just in case it is a serious argument, I highly doubt Batman’s ever designed a counter for getting blitzed by a night omnipresent being, and if he has it doesn’t appear to be accepted on his profile, and it isn’t assumed that he somehow counter it unless he’s shown the ability to before

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Weird match up.

M not only doesn't care about time, he exists everywhere there is darkness, he is bigger than infinite universes, Batman lacks the range to affect him, not to mention M is the very concept of darkness, and I don't see any NPI from Batman which can affect that.

 

[MichaelCalistro]

Um, this isn’t a serious argument right?, just in case it is a serious argument, I highly doubt Batman’s ever designed a counter for getting blitzed by a night omnipresent being, and if he has it doesn’t appear to be accepted on his profile, and it isn’t assumed that he somehow counter it unless he’s shown the ability to before

Okay fine you win, I equalized the speed lol.

 

[Rgerdeena]

Okay fine you win, I equalized the speed lol.

All right so, now looking at m’s p&a, even with equal speed I don’t see a way Batman can win this, m’s got accausality type 5 non existent physiology type 2/3 all aspects large size type 10 paraconsistent physiology type 1 abstract existence type 1 beyond dimensional existence type 1, even if Batman isn’t immediately blitzed I just don’t see a way that Batman could interact with m let alone make it a competitive fight

 

[PromptedElephant641]

Batman literally cannot win this even if M didnt even do anything in response. He has type-5 acausality and Non Existent Physiology, it is not even possible for Batman to interact with him.

 

[MichaelCalistro]

Damn, so even with preparation, Batman is being Manbatted in this thread lol!

 

[PromptedElephant641]

Yeah. M wins by default just standing there and doing nothing

 

[MichaelCalistro]

Yeah. M wins by default just standing there and doing nothing

But this is Batman with preparation!

 

[E1iminxtion]

“but he has preperation”, bruh if batman is anywhere that this dude can even perceive his existence, he’s dead. the only way i can see this even being fair is if this supposed preperation involves calling in some crazy ass high tier DC character for help that he shouldn’t have access to anyway, and coming up with a plan that doesnt really involve batman in the fight at all

 

[MichaelCalistro]

“but he has preperation”, bruh if batman is anywhere that this dude can even perceive his existence, he’s dead. the only way i can see this even being fair is if this supposed preperation involves calling in some crazy ass high tier DC character for help that he shouldn’t have access to anyway, and coming up with a plan that doesnt really involve batman in the fight at all

In my last Batman versus thread, people were telling me that Batman with preparation can beat High 1-A characters because he can reach High 1-A tiering. Man I don't know if they were tripping or not.

 

[Tomfer]

Prep time Batman is greatly overestimated. Prep time Cyclops > Prep time Batman fr.

 

[Rgerdeena]

Prep time Batman is greatly overestimated. Prep time Cyclops > Prep time Batman fr.

Prep time j Jonah Jameson>prep time Batman as well

 

[E1iminxtion]

In my last Batman versus thread, people were telling me that Batman with preparation can beat High 1-A characters because he can reach High 1-A tiering. Man I don't know if they were tripping or not.

i think his “low 1C with preparation” comes from being able to consistently build stuff that can damage characters of that rating, but that doesnt mean he himself is that tier, which is why he still only has hypersonic reactions, class 5 LS and 9A striking— kinda like how captain america is 9A, but has a low 1A durability shield

obviously they would both get folded by any character on those tiers, but they have equipment that can hurt or defend against attacks from said beings, and both contexts usually involve help from the justice league or the avengers so its not like they’re out here alone (except for dumb outliers like batman dodging omega beams on his own)

maybe if someone specifies like: “batman has his super ultra mega power suit that beat and resisted attacks from the anti monitor and darkseid” or whatever tf, then i can kinda see it

 

[MichaelCalistro]

i think his “low 1C with preparation” comes from being able to consistently build stuff that can damage characters of that rating, but that doesnt mean he himself is that tier, which is why he still only has hypersonic reactions, class 5 LS and 9A striking— kinda like how captain america is 9A, but has a low 1A durability shield

obviously they would both get folded by any character on those tiers, but they have equipment that can hurt or defend against attacks from said beings, and both contexts usually involve help from the justice league or the avengers so its not like they’re out here alone (except for dumb outliers like batman dodging omega beams on his own)

maybe if someone specifies like: “batman has his super ultra mega power suit that beat and resisted attacks from the anti monitor and darkseid” or whatever tf, then i can kinda see it

Their arguments was leaning more towards Batman's profile being outdated while cross-scaling his feats from other High 1-A characters from his verse who has his preparation powers.