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Object Show General Discussion Thread: New Friendly

Psychomaster35 said:
New episode's out
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Alright, this episode is now the one that completely diverted the most from the original episode, not just through changing the challenge entirely, but also giving Firey a much larger role compared to his few seconds of screentime in the original episode. I guess there's also an connection between the remaster continuity and the original continuity as to how the latter happened?
 
There's a possible teaser for that "product" at VidCon being presented by jacknjellify as a BFDI X Monopoly board game
 

If this board game is canon (Probably not), maybe there's stuff we could give them? Also, I hope the other characters from Season 2 and onwards are playable here because if it's just the Season 1 cast then that would be boring.
 
Guess we got our first bits of footage for TPOT 23 and II S4E6!

So, Balloony and Announcer are riding in the latter's spaceship, the eliminated contestants of the Elimination Space (Plus Fanny minus Puffball) are being shot by a green beam (Probably from Snowball?), and One is confronting Black Hole in her pocket dimension meaning we are probably going to see how the deal went.
 
Bearat_Fearat said:

TPOT 23
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Whilst I do think the voice acting is a bit spotty at times, this was a really good episode with TONS of new stuff. Really like 4 and X reuniting, and the Negative Numbers are neat to know about. To just address one huge thing, did we just get our first immeasurable speed feat with One and the Announcer Ship reacting to each other whilst flying inside the wormhole(?) We see earlier this thing does travel through time after all thanks to the Announcer’s timer recalibrating since originally they were around post BFB 30 ish.
 
Good episode :)

One’s combat skills suck big time lmao. Bro does NOT know how to use all of her new powers.

Also since Liy harmed One are we gonna suddenly scale her above Two and Four or would we consider it an antifeat in the sense that yoyelite powers may not scale to physicals when not actively being shown powering them
 
Bearat_Fearat said:

TPOT 23
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Somehow the 2 people everyone thought would get out (Book and Marker) somehow survived with the latter even getting the 2nd most votes, while Winner and Liy ended up getting out (Which was surprising especially since nobody thought Winner would get out, and even though people knew Liy would be in danger alongside Book and Marker, they thought that she would have the highest chance of being safe). Yet, even after getting out, Liy made one last attempt to save everyone and even fend back One before being killed off.

There was hardly much going on outside of some rescuing and Algebralien interactions (Though the Three snapping scenes were certainly thrilling), as some parts like that montage with Grassy's group felt like filler that didn't have much to put into the story as catchy as it was. Also rather disappointed that despite the buildup from the last episode, Puffball hardly even did much as she was only given like 2 lines in this episode that were said at the start, and then she never speaks again after that despite multiple on screen appearances. Of course, this was only the first part, and perhaps this was only building up for the more climactic parts of the trilogy.
 
Axorandom0 said:
Good episode :)

One’s combat skills suck big time lmao. Bro does NOT know how to use all of her new powers.

Also since Liy harmed One are we gonna suddenly scale her above Two and Four or would we consider it an antifeat in the sense that yoyelite powers may not scale to physicals when not actively being shown powering them
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I think One just getting hurt over and over in this was frankly more just for the plot in general (Along with the fact we see Liy get one shot right after), which honestly is annoying since she clearly has grown even stronger via the fact Ten, Seven, Eight, Nine, and Five are all drained of power too.
 
Aperschmoo445 said:
I think One just getting hurt over and over in this was frankly more just for the plot in general (Along with the fact we see Liy get one shot right after), which honestly is annoying since she clearly has grown even stronger via the fact Ten, Seven, Eight, Nine, and Five are all drained of power too.
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small note but Liy was oneshot by One’s laser vision/powers, not her physicals which is what I suggested
 
Axorandom0 said:
small note but Liy was oneshot by One’s laser vision/powers, not her physicals which is what I suggested
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Ah yea, right. My mistake. Still do think it is more plot though. Also some other unrelated things, One can just transform into Evil Leafy (Evil One-y?) I guess and Three with a fragment of Yoyleite (even if she’s corrupted) can one shot Fifteen. (Along with whatever’s going on with the Fourse) Weird episode today.
 
Aperschmoo445 said:
To just address one huge thing, did we just get our first immeasurable speed feat with One and the Announcer Ship reacting to each other whilst flying inside the wormhole(?) We see earlier this thing does travel through time after all thanks to the Announcer’s timer recalibrating since originally they were around post BFB 30 ish.
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We actually have 2 other Immeasurable feats in the series happening in TPOT 15 (Income Tax Return Document and Team 2 travelling through the events of Total Firey Island by sheer speed through going to a future issue and running back to the first issue) and TPOT 20 (Pencil reacting to her surroundings as she's being taken back in time to BFDI 1a), so this might actually be consistent.
Axorandom0 said:
One’s combat skills suck big time lmao. Bro does NOT know how to use all of her new powers.

Also since Liy harmed One are we gonna suddenly scale her above Two and Four or would we consider it an antifeat in the sense that yoyelite powers may not scale to physicals when not actively being shown powering them
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Perhaps her Flipped form would scale to Post-Two & Four Power Absorption One through being able to punch her back and even send her to space (There was no evidence that One was really holding back since she's being very desperate in trying to get X's powers), though I'd consider the parts like Ruby harming PT&FA!One as PIS since the base form contestants are narratively not supposed to be as powerful as her in that state.
 
Psychomaster35 said:
We actually have 2 other Immeasurable feats in the series happening in TPOT 15 (Income Tax Return Document and Team 2 travelling through the events of Total Firey Island by sheer speed through going to a future issue and running back to the first issue) and TPOT 20 (Pencil reacting to her surroundings as she's being taken back in time to BFDI 1a), so this might actually be consistent.

Perhaps her Flipped form would scale to Post-Two & Four Power Absorption One through being able to punch her back and even send her to space (There was no evidence that One was really holding back since she's being very desperate in trying to get X's powers), though I'd consider the parts like Ruby harming PT&FA!One as PIS since the base form contestants are narratively not supposed to be as powerful as her.
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no offense but I don’t think Four or Two would be getting packed by Liy regardless of if she’s switched or not. They’re already narratively above all of the contestants due to the literal name of the show being “the power of Two with the prize being Two’s power, among other reasons.
 
Axorandom0 said:
no offense but I don’t think Four or Two would be getting packed by Liy regardless of if she’s switched or not. They’re already narratively above all of the contestants due to the literal name of the show being “the power of Two with the prize being Two’s power, among other reasons.
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I mean, they could be competing for all of the abilities Two has and not just their physical power, not to mention there being feats of contestants directly harming Two and Four. We already know that Liy in her Flipped state becomes stronger than before, which is why I was considering that form being able to scale to post-powers absorption One since she's usually not as powerful when not in her Flipped state. Sure, One did eventually one-shot Flipped Liy with a single laser blast, but the fact that she can still get harmed by her could mean that she downscales at worst and just straight up scales to her at best.
 
Psychomaster35 said:
I mean, they could be competing for all of the abilities Two has and not just their physical power, not to mention there being feats of contestants directly harming Two and Four. We already know that Liy in her Flipped state becomes stronger than before, which is why I was considering that form being able to scale to post-powers absorption One since she's usually not as powerful when not in her Flipped state. Sure, One did eventually one-shot Flipped Liy with a single laser blast, but the fact that she can still get harmed by her could mean that she downscales at worst and just straight up scales to her at best.
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It could theoretically refer to the variety of Two’s power and not the power side of it, but the fact that it’s called “unlimited power” from the perspective of the contestants makes me think that it should just strictly scale above them. Also, contestants harming Two and Four can be reconciled with their physicals not always scaling to their powers (which is what I suggested earlier)
 
Psychomaster35 said:
We actually have 2 other Immeasurable feats in the series happening in TPOT 15 (Income Tax Return Document and Team 2 travelling through the events of Total Firey Island by sheer speed through going to a future issue and running back to the first issue) and TPOT 20 (Pencil reacting to her surroundings as she's being taken back in time to BFDI 1a), so this might actually be consistent.
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Consistently MFTL+ first, then consistently Infinite after BFDIA 24. Now consistently Immeasurable, things just keep getting faster and faster. Also, this likely isn’t an alternate universe, but it would be funny if Four just has access to two of them.
 
Axorandom0 said:
It could theoretically refer to the variety of Two’s power and not the power side of it, but the fact that it’s called “unlimited power” from the perspective of the contestants makes me think that it should just strictly scale above them. Also, contestants harming Two and Four can be reconciled with their physicals not always scaling to their powers (which is what I suggested earlier)
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Isn't that also supported by Ep. 20 where she tries moving a boulder right after obtaining Yoylite's power and concluding she doesn't get super strength or durability? (Probably because she didn't know how to actually strengthen her physicals with her power until much later?)
 
Arency said:
Pretty sure it has antifeats like Leafy freezing in BFDIA so idk
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I mean, that’s true but that also could just be added as a weakness to the Plant Object Physiology as a compromise. (Actually, could just be a weakness for Leafy in general, since we see Grassy literally right there, albeit just might not be unaffected somehow or in a “normal” temperature.) But also weirdly Leafy has already survived temperatures colder than a typical winter area such as outer space so…
 
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Bearat_Fearat said:
I don't believe that's a fair anti-feat since its clearly done for humorous reasons.
That's why the entire verse isn't downgraded to Tier 9.
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I’m in agreement, at worst it’s just a weakness for Leafy in specific and just doesn’t gain that resistance.

Now consistent immeasurable speed stuff, new cosmology stuff with the Sub specials, Evil Leafy having Black Hole creation (and frankly, objects having resistance to stuff like Deconstruction it too as we see them go inside her black hole with no effect. Would this make Four and One’s resistance to Deconstruction layered then as objects are effected by Black Hole the character whilst in comparison those two aren’t?), BFDI’s Earth now having an entire starry sky inside, and now possibly an absolute zero resistance. What else are we gonna get? Conceptual Manip one day lol?
 
Axorandom0 said:
It could theoretically refer to the variety of Two’s power and not the power side of it, but the fact that it’s called “unlimited power” from the perspective of the contestants makes me think that it should just strictly scale above them. Also, contestants harming Two and Four can be reconciled with their physicals not always scaling to their powers (which is what I suggested earlier)
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Honestly, I think I might drop the argument of Flipped Liy scaling to post-power absorption One given how Two actually implied that One was holding back as to not do a repeat of what she did to Three.
Diamond_Drone said:
Isn't that also supported by Ep. 20 where she tries moving a boulder right after obtaining Yoylite's power and concluding she doesn't get super strength or durability? (Probably because she didn't know how to actually strengthen her physicals with her power until much later?)
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What would be of Two using their power to strengthen themselves, then? Also, One stated 2 scenes afterward that she can't fly, and yet she's very much able to fly later on, implying that she couldn't do her super strength initially due to her lack of experience since she just got the Yoylite powers.
Aperschmoo445 said:
I’m in agreement, at worst it’s just a weakness for Leafy in specific and just doesn’t gain that resistance.
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I mean, Leafy has consistently withstood being in space without freezing to its near-absolute zero temperatures, not to mention how that one moment where she burnt from being in the desert in BFDIA 22 is PIS due to her being able to survive being in the desert in more episodes (Particularly the last 4 BFB episodes) without much of an issue. Of course, she still dies to Firey's fire given her nature as a plant, though with Grassy here not being affected by the universal thermostat, it's possible that it wasn't turned to the maximum/minimum temperatures for it to badly harm Grassy. After all, all we have to work with is a single image and it's unknown how much they turned the dial.
Aperschmoo445 said:
Evil Leafy having Black Hole creation (and frankly, objects having resistance to stuff like Deconstruction it too as we see them go inside her black hole with no effect. Would this make Four and One’s resistance to Deconstruction layered then as objects are effected by Black Hole the character whilst in comparison those two aren’t?)
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It still wasn't confirmed if this is a black hole despite resembling one, so I'm still kinda iffy on this.
 
Psychomaster35 said:
What would be of Two using their power to strengthen themselves, then? Also, One stated 2 scenes afterward that she can't fly, and yet she's very much able to fly later on, implying that she couldn't do her super strength initially due to her lack of experience since she just got the Yoylite powers.
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None of this is really a counter. Two’s physicals can be lower than his powers yet can use their powers to amp themself. Also, One learning to use her powers to strengthen herself was mentioned in the Diamond_Drone post you replied to lol
 
Axorandom0 said:
Tbf we don’t give Black Hole Black Hole Physiology due to his consistencies, so his brother may follow the same logic of not being a “real” black hole
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Ehh, not too sure. I feel like we’d need to see more of BH’s brother contradicting stuff like BH himself to put em with the same logic too. Also, did just find a statement by the animator of the scene itself that it was a black hole. (They also animated the wormhole scene in TPOT 23 weirdly enough too.)
 
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Axorandom0 said:
None of this is really a counter. Two’s physicals can be lower than his powers yet can use their powers to amp themself. Also, One learning to use her powers to strengthen herself was mentioned in the Diamond_Drone post you replied to lol
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That block Two punched still survived being hit by Two's amped power, and Saw's blade was still able to cut through it, meaning that scaling is still possible. Even if it looked like Two wasn't using their full power, they still felt exhausted after amping themselves whereas One wasn't exhausted from repairing the timeline instantly, and given how Two is hundreds of times stronger than One, physical scaling would still be possible.
Aperschmoo445 said:
Ehh, not too sure. I feel like we’d need to see more of BH’s brother contradicting stuff like BH himself to put em with the same logic too. Also, did just find a statement by the animator of the scene itself that it was a black hole. (They also animated the wormhole scene in TPOT 23 weirdly enough too.)
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That works as evidence, sure.
 
Psychomaster35 said:
That block Two punched still survived being hit by Two's amped power, and Saw's blade was still able to cut through it, meaning that scaling is still possible. Even if it looked like Two wasn't using their full power, they still felt exhausted after amping themselves whereas One wasn't exhausted from repairing the timeline instantly, and given how Two is hundreds of times stronger than One, physical scaling would still be possible.
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I agree that Two was using their power in that scene since they literally had a “powering up” moment right before the punch. Saw would, at best, still downscale the feat by a lot (since Two was applying blunt force with the surface area of their fist while Saw was just cutting it using the much smaller area of their blade) and, at worse, it could be considered an outlier without more feats of scaling to the Algebralians’ powers’ strength.

Also I don’t really get why you’re comparing Two and One’s level of exhaustion after using their powers, would you mind clarifying that for me?
 
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