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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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Hi, guys. I got a little more research and asked several people about it. It should probably be good
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Dimensional Wall Low 1-C upgrade
In this thread I would explain why Dimensional wall in Dragon Ball would qualify for Low 1-C Dimensional Wall in Dragon Ball Dimensional Wall exist as a barrier between the living universe and alternate dimensions of the Living World, containing them in it so they won't interact with each...
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Wonder if that means there'd be a time Zen'oh Sama, Rymus or Zarama.
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I believe Zalama solos both of them
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Macrocosm 5D 
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When I asked you, you said:"my knowledge about tier 1 is limited."Macrocosm 5D
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That's trueWhen I asked you, you said:"my knowledge about tier 1 is limited."
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I think it’d be really funny if it's just Beerus. Like obviously there are other, unique (Hakaitoki no Kaiōshin? Tokihakaishin?) Time Gods of Destruction, but Beerus is running double duty as a God of Destruction and Time God of Destruction, both for the humor factor, but also explaining why he sat in the center of Tokitoki City to see if the Time Patrol could handle Demigra on their own before he left. On paper, that’s outside his purview, but if he’s a Time GoD, then it would make sense why he’s immediately ready to fight for the cause. Additionally, Beerus being a Time GoD and thus also consistently so hands free that the Universe becomes under threat without him caring could extend to the Time Nest and also explain why our current (most closely related) Time GoD doesn't do anything to keep it out of trouble.
Also, again, I think it’d just be really funny.
Also, again, I think it’d just be really funny.
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I doubt it'd be Beerus. If a Time GoD is like the counterpart of Chronoa (like how GoD are of Kaioshins), there should be only 1 in all the cosmology, and its life should only be linkened to that of Chronoa., not that of Shin
Does it imply we'd get a Time Angel too?
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A Space-Time Angel is seemingly a thing actually
supertomioka
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Zalama is the potential man of db powerscaling, "give me limitless statement or I retire "
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Ah thanks
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I agree. I just think it’d be funny.
But also, a Time Angel?
Hm. I suppose that would make sense, wouldn’t it?
But also, of there are multiple Time Gods of Destruction (which seems to be implied with the ‘S’), I think it may be the opposite.
After all, the Supreme Kai of Time is unique in that only one can exist across…well, existence.
It's not like the role of the Lord of Worlds, where there are four, (alongside a greater Lord of Worlds as leader/overseer, the Grand Kai), or the Supreme Kai, where you have four, (with the same main overseer idea in the Daikaioshin), or the Hakaishin, where there are twelve. It's singular.
As such, it could be that the Time Gods of Destruction are actually the reverse, in that multiple Time GoDs exist and the Life Link is instead functioning on that basis. (I.e., Time GoD dies = Chronoa dies, rather than Chronoa as the Supreme Kai of Time resulting in her GoD dying).
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I thought we only had a limited number of Namekian profiles? As for the Demon Clan, I’ve actually already planned to split Piccolo Jr.’s profile and update some of the scans for King Piccolo and his offspring. Because he lost his demonic identity as Kami mentioned upon entering the DBZ era, even though he is indeed of the demon race according to the
No, let’s avoid anything that might cause complications down the line. As I’ve explained before, Saiyan physiology is tricky to map out and prone to misunderstandings—even if you stick to just the Base, Oozaru, and Super Saiyan forms. We need to be careful regarding Goku and Vegeta, especially given the anime-exclusive material; their physiology is no longer typical of standard Saiyans—likely due to their God Ki—and you’ve even included the "Limited Space Survival" aspect, which is exclusive to the (DBS anime) for Goku & Vegeta.
Besides, you’re conflating things by including feats like Weather Manipulation; honestly, those only appeared in the anime’s visuals, and we don't have corresponding scans from the manga to back them up. FYI, Goku and Vegeta seem to possess a regenerative ability that other Saiyans lack (Goku healing his burned fist, or a deep scratch on Vegeta’s face from Harmira vanishing in an instant after he simply wiped it). It really suggests they are on a completely different level of physiology. So, it is better to just leave things as they are; even though I know that physiological upgrades require a great deal of time and effort, looking at their current stories, they are forging their own paths rather than simply relying on their innate abilities.
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Can you send a scan of Vegeta regenerating?
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To be fair, Goku also temporarily survives in space in the DBS Manga in his fight with Gas, appearing and fighting on a random asteroid.
This did happen in the Manga. Vegeta, specifically, as he powered up. However, this is likely a simple display of his Chi’s passive effect from raw power and has nothing to do with being a Saiyan.
Largely agree with this, but I think it should be noted some of the stuff they do probably has nothing to do with upgraded physiology, and instead simply plot convenience stuff, so we gotta handle it on a case-by-case basis. Also, the most important part of their newer physiology is distinctly tied to what all Saiyans have, (S-Cells to facilitate their God Ki transformations, as their body has to adapt their cellular processes to the energy to then create the ability to transform with that energy).
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Thanks
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Good afternoon, guys. What does "Agree with DR" mean?
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Uh huh.
Read literally any official source of supplementary material published after the original series was released. King Piccolo has eternal youth, currently.
What a bizarre ******* assumption backed up by, say, next to zero real evidence outside of headcanon. Quite literally nothing has ever suggested Goku and Vegeta are, what, a newfound hybrid species of super (lowercase) Saiyans, like Frieza, especially not because of the God Ki they only possess when they are gods. Evidently, they have the same fundamental physiology as a Saiyan like Broly, or Cabba, or Caulifla, or even a hybrid like Gohan or Trunks. How you could even believe they are more biologically advanced than they were originally because they are more powerful than before is genuinely beyond my understanding.
Yeah, Weather Manipulation is already accepted as an extension of Ki Manipulation.
Bullfuckingshit. Saiyans have explicitly possessed "recuperative powers" as far back as DBZ chapter 71, and they have, implicitly, recovered from various serious internal and external injuries at a superhuman rate numerous times throughout the story without any indication of supernatural influence.
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Could you send that scan?
I think there’s a misunderstanding; I was discussing the concept of divinity—specifically how difficult it is to map it across both continuities. The Broly novel suggests this divinity is something innate to them—much like Beerus—implying they possess inherent abilities derived from it, yet the nature of this differs between the two continuities (abilities).
We can't claim that Gohan and the other Saiyans can regenerate the way Goku did—like when he regenerated his hand after it was burned, right? It is safest to scale this only to Vegeta, as he is the one who shares a situation nearly identical to Goku's in this regard—specifically, when he regenerated his internal organs while in Super Saiyan God form.
Not Super Saiyan forms.
But it isn't instantaneous; I was referring to the time it takes for them to regenerate, rather than implying they recover quickly and immediately gain a Zenkai boost.
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Finally, the first official DB guide directly for Portuguese ( Brazilian )
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~Okazaki~ PORRAAAAA, finalmente um guia de Dragon Ball no Brasil pela Panini. \o/ Esse é bem legal; é tipo uma mistura dos Daizenshuu, com várias ilustrações e informações sobre a obra, e faz par...
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I have a question out of curiosity! How much more powerful and faster would Dragon Ball Super Anime characters be if we upscale them to the 20,000x 3 Universes (2-C) & >x4 Trillion (Infinite Speed) value from Dragon Ball Z Anime? Can someone please do a blog on this pretty please?!
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ah that's such bullshit. how come the states don't get anything? i had to buy a japanese copy of landmarkFinally, the first official DB guide directly for Portuguese ( Brazilian )
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~Okazaki~ PORRAAAAA, finalmente um guia de Dragon Ball no Brasil pela Panini. \o/ Esse é bem legal; é tipo uma mistura dos Daizenshuu, com várias ilustrações e informações sobre a obra, e faz par...
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I don't know, here in Brazil we really like anime and we've never had a guide in Brazil, but it's finally happening, although here in Brazil several places were packed to watch the tournament of power ( From what I could see, Brazil is one of the countries that watches DB the most )ah that's such bullshit. how come the states don't get anything? i had to buy a japanese copy of landmark
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Eh, I was wrong. Only Chōzenshū 4 and Landmark say Piccolo acquired eternal youth. Also, in the OFFICIAL SITE's "The Story of Dragon Ball in 42 Panels: Part One" and "Weekly ☆ Character Showcase" entry for Emperor Pilaf, King Piccolo is described as "[seeking] to gain" or "[wanting] to gain" eternal youth, which he does openly state during the original series, before asking Shenron for his former youth. Various other supplemental sources simply reaffirm the idea of Piccolo regaining his previous youth, but considering Piccolo appears during the main story of, say, Dragon Ball Online and Xenoverse 3, both occurring during Age 1000, I'd say the general consensus among the creative department is Piccolo officially having eternal youth; even if Online and Xenoverse 3 are non-canon projects.
Yes, Goku and Vegeta have the power of a god lying dormant inside of themselves. They have to in order to become Super Saiyan Gods without experiencing the ritual again. Goku has had the power of a god lying dormant inside of his body since the Beerus Saga, and never has his latent divine powers been suggested to affect his normal abilities. They aren't mortal-god hybrids, they are mortals with a godly nature hidden within themselves to be later awakened through transformation.
Why wouldn't we? We don't have any evidence to the contrary. At the very least, when Super Saiyan God Goku recovered from being stabbed by Beerus, his fiery God aura appeared to flood the wound as he healed, suggesting his divine powers allowed for his regeneration, but a normal Super Saiyan Goku's hand being healed, despite Goku being currently exhausted of all of his strength and actively on the verge of unconsciousness? You can reasonably assume he healed through his natural abilities, rather than because of any supernatural, biology-altering influence.
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I'm sorry bro
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So, I found this out:
beginning of Dragon Ball Great Ape Goku is stated to "possesses destructive power comparable to a battleship's main gun"
Using the 16”/50 caliber Mark 7 gun, he would possess approximately 20 kilotons of energy (7-C) and Base Goku at the beginning of Dragon Ball would downscale to 2 kilotons (Low 7-C)
beginning of Dragon Ball Great Ape Goku is stated to "possesses destructive power comparable to a battleship's main gun"
Using the 16”/50 caliber Mark 7 gun, he would possess approximately 20 kilotons of energy (7-C) and Base Goku at the beginning of Dragon Ball would downscale to 2 kilotons (Low 7-C)
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I guess context is goten and trunks going to fight Majin Buu after Vegeta died? The "they're out last hope, as small as it is" it's that goten and trunks are stronger than Piccolo, and could become stronger to fight buu, but they're still their small hope as unlikely to beat him (of what piccolo thought at the time)
