TV Invincible Speed CRT

[Tahoy49574]

so how many votes is that

I guess that's two votes for Option 2 (tho Random-Helper323 wanted some sort of combination but hasn't replied since)

I'll make a list on who should scale to what in a bit based on what they said

 

[Tahoy49574]

Hail Mary should probably scale, don't know about Immortal.

Random Helper's train of thought here makes sense to me.

Option 2:

Supersonic+:

• Atom Eve
• Rex Splode
• Shapesmith
• Oliver (Season 3)
• Maulers
• Powerplex

Relativistic:

• Invincible (Season 1)
• Hail Mary
• Allen The Alien (Pre-Recovery)

MFTL+:

• All the viltrumites from Season 2 Mark onwards
• Allen The Alien (Post-Recovery)
• Battle Beast

Where do we put the Guardians again, the issues mentioned in the OP are still there. Mind that simply chainscaling all of them to Omni-Man would result in MFTL+ Darkwing lol, nor do we ever see them flying anywhere close to Relativistic speeds

 

[Random-Helper323]

Eve was able to land decent hits on Conquest, so maybe when her abilities unlock more she could come closer to that? It's way too inconsistent with her normal combat abilities to scale her directly though.

 

[Tahoy49574]

Eve was able to land decent hits on Conquest, so maybe when her abilities unlock more she could come closer to that?

There's no signs of Eve getting any notorious buffs throughout the TV series. Most we've got is her studying architecture to get better with her abilities but it'd be a huge reach to say that also made her millions of times faster

You mean blasting Conquest after healing ?

 

[Tahoy49574]

If you do all votes need to be reset just a fyi. I'll wait to see what your change is tho before commenting in full.

.

 

[FuriousFieryFist]

Eve was able to land decent hits on Conquest, so maybe when her abilities unlock more she could come closer to that? It's way too inconsistent with her normal combat abilities to scale her directly though.

Yeah but that was from a distance with large constructs. Conquest was also either standing still or disoriented from being hit from a construct whenever he gets tagged by her. When he gets up close he pretty handily outspeeds her. We could maybe scale her reactions to Conquest or we could accept that acceleration is a thing and Viltrumites do not always operate at MFTL speeds and not have to deal with this problem.

 

[Tahoy49574]

bump

 

[Tahoy49574]

Hm. I guess Supersonic+ Hail Mary makes sense, then.

Random Helper's train of thought here makes sense to me.

Eve was able to land decent hits on Conquest, so maybe when her abilities unlock more she could come closer to that? It's way too inconsistent with her normal combat abilities to scale her directly though.

Can we please sort this out ? People just keep adding whatever to the verse

Option 2:

Supersonic+:

• Atom Eve
• Rex Splode
• Shapesmith
• Oliver (Season 3)
• Maulers
• Powerplex

Relativistic:

• Invincible (Season 1)
• Hail Mary
• Allen The Alien (Pre-Recovery)

MFTL+:

• All the viltrumites from Season 2 Mark onwards
• Allen The Alien (Post-Recovery)
• Battle Beast

Where do we put the Guardians again, the issues mentioned in the OP are still there. Mind that simply chainscaling all of them to Omni-Man would result in MFTL+ Darkwing lol, nor do we ever see them flying anywhere close to Relativistic speeds

 

[Random-Helper323]

I can see the Immortal being relativistic, since he seems to be considered comparable to Season 1 Mark. Everyone else, I'd say the Supersonic option, except perhaps War Woman.

I also notice that Eve's comic counterpart is scaled to a higher speed tier than that for catching Conquest off guard.

 

[Tahoy49574]

I can see the Immortal being relativistic, since he seems to be considered comparable to Season 1 Mark. Everyone else, I'd say the Supersonic option, except perhaps War Woman.

What about Martian Man and Red Rush ? They're the only others who managed to lay a finger on Omni-Man. Also Relativistic ?

I also notice that Eve's comic counterpart is scaled to a higher speed tier than that for catching Conquest off guard.

She's also gonna have her stats revised, don't worry

 

[Random-Helper323]

What about Martian Man and Red Rush ? They're the only others who managed to lay a finger on Omni-Man. Also Relativistic ?

Red Rush already scales to the MFTL ratings. Not sure about Martian Man.

 

[Tahoy49574]

Red Rush already scales to the MFTL ratings. Not sure about Martian Man.

I mean, we're granting speed based on how they measure up to viltrumites physically and Martian Man was able to restrain Nolan twice, who had to resort to his weak spot.

I'm not sure about Red Rush being MFTL+ because of this whole bit:

Another example of this is Red Rush. His trademark as a speedster is his perception is always as fast as he is, with him being so fast he pretty much perception-blitzes all the Guardians, Immortal and War Woman included, who in combat speed are currently scaling to Omni-Man. Despite this Omni-Man for a brief moment moved his hand so fast Red Rush couldn't get away and promptly killed him, and despite that it's not portrayed as if he has a significant speed advantage over the others during the rest of the fight, as they still manage to get various hits in.

Finally, we have the infamous feat of flying through the flaxan planet. While we currently don't have a calculation for the speed (that I know of at least), it's certainly below MFTL ranges and it's safe to say no character has traveled this fast on a planet ever since for obvious reasons

...but it is what it is ig

 

[Tahoy49574]

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