DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[AcidSilver]

It's not really a accomplishment to beat wonder woman anymore. Honestly hasn't been for 10 years now. She's been power crept badly, tom king isn't helping matters either.

U know it's bad when Aquaman is more impressive than her since he got the blue

I don’t mind the buff but god I hate the Blue so much. The Red already includes ocean life, why is there a separate parliament for water? The Red, the Green, and the Black/Rot were a perfect trio. Adding all these other parliaments has always been stupid. The only one I could ever accept is the Metal because it’s explicitly an artificial parliament which makes it unique.

Just make this buff be its own distinct thing instead of making it be connected to a parliament.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

People ain't ready for Man-Thing dogwalking Swamp Thing

 

[AcidSilver]

People ain't ready for Man-Thing dogwalking Swamp Thing

Swamp-Thing is another of DC's long list of characters who get hyped up to be extremely powerful but then never do anything but get their asses kicked

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Swamp-Thing is another of DC's long list of characters who get hyped up to be extremely powerful but then never do anything but get their asses kicked

The Green is literally a lesser Nexus of Realities. Man-Thing unironically just absorbs Swamp Thing and the Green.

 

[Nick443]

People ain't ready for Man-Thing dogwalking Swamp Thing

Y sure bout it?

 

[AthelChan]

TT Doomsday is pretty much a future version of Doomsday that has adapted a ton throughout the years, he also sacrificed himself to give Superman an amp strong enough to battle against an amped Darkseid

dc supporters taking a long time to add TT Doomsday and King Omega Superman

 

[AthelChan]

Also had her off herself in the most recent issue, her current run is a joke lmao. Dogwater writer.

Forget superman or GL, current Aquaman is more versatile than a character tied to multiple gods, aquaman was seen as the dude who talks to fish lol

he gained so much aura

 

[Rozeyroze]

I don’t mind the buff but god I hate the Blue so much. The Red already includes ocean life, why is there a separate parliament for water? The Red, the Green, and the Black/Rot were a perfect trio. Adding all these other parliaments has always been stupid. The only one I could ever accept is the Metal because it’s explicitly an artificial parliament which makes it unique.

Just make this buff be its own distinct thing instead of making it be connected to a parliament.

Apparently the blue has been a thing for awhile, it was just called "the clear" back then.

 

[Rozeyroze]

Transdimensional doorways from space and landing in the ocean unscathed....... What the actual fuckering f.ck

Namor was always cooked isn't it

Poor namor, it gets worse because he's fighting Poseidon next issue

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Namor deserves his L after his treatment of Sue and Reed ngl

 

[Genericstickman]

dc supporters taking a long time to add TT Doomsday and King Omega Superman

was going to say King Omega Superman was a single issue thing but then I remembered we have Golden Wonder Woman as a key so yeah I guess that'd be fine

 

[Rozeyroze]

was going to say King Omega Superman was a single issue thing but then I remembered we have Golden Wonder Woman as a key so yeah I guess that'd be fine

And king omega superman is getting his own story at the end of this month so more content than crisis WW had

 

[Nick443]

And king omega superman is getting his own story at the end of this month so more content than crisis WW had

Holy sh.t... that's My goat.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Namor does have Pre-All Father Thor scaling tbf. Its a much more closer and debatable.

 

[Nick443]

And yet he still lose against aquaman with his new buffs XD.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I dont follow Aquaman that much these days so idk much about him lol. Is it a permanent buff or one of those buffs that disappears after a few months in comics?

 

[Nick443]

Actually, kinda a permanent buff,it's now the new avatar of the blue, which is a cosmic energy force that connects water throughout universe, Multiverse, and perhaps the greater Omniverse, properly similar with thor with his own thorforce, and now he's now fighting Poseidón in the next issue

You could check out This feats in Emperor Aquaman 2026

 

[Rozeyroze]

He's had it

I dont follow Aquaman that much these days so idk much about him lol. Is it a permanent buff or one of those buffs that disappears after a few months in comics?

since January of 2025 so almost two years so far.

He blew up a starro planet on his own with this power a few months ago and defeated a immortal god who had the entire power of the blue in him

 

[Tyranno223]

I remember that shit in the new 52 era at the time
She was constantly hyped as the only person capable of stopping Superman

Never made sense to me, really. We had Captain Marvel/Shazam, Martian Manhunter, Captain Atom, etc all right there.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

 

[Megahax]

Is Doomsday VS SCP-682 one of them?

Fairly sure that they're waiting on DC editorial to give Doomsday some bonkers feats and new adaptations before they make them fight in order to keep up the DC mandate

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Fairly sure that they're waiting on DC editorial to give Doomsday some bonkers feats and new adaptations before they make them fight in order to keep up the DC mandate

DC doesnt win all the time like they used to

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Fairly sure that they're waiting on DC editorial to give Doomsday some bonkers feats and new adaptations before they make them fight in order to keep up the DC mandate

I mean, im not sure they can, Time Trapper Doomsday is canonically Doomsday's end-point, literally the limit of its evolution

 

[Megahax]

I mean, im not sure they can, Time Trapper Doomsday is canonically Doomsday's end-point, literally the limit of its evolution

The problem with using Time Trapper Doomsday is that Death Battle is likely to go with Brainiac 5's interpretation of the Time Trapper being a sentient timeline and not exactly something that Doomsday usually is. Especially given the nature of Time Trapper's identity constantly fluctuating with every reboot and crisis.

Even so, giving him Time Trapper powers isn't enough to beat 682 even in his base state. I'm telling you, DC would have to like, put him on the same level as Prime to really stand a decent-ish chance to give 682 a run for his money and even then that's still iffy.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

yes and he willingly lost it, hes been the time trapper since 2024 so its usable imo. It also negates the "send him to the end of time" 682 wincon that people had for years

Imma be real with you, 682 has never shown the ability to do that, I have zero clue where people got the idea that thats something 682 can do to win.

 

[Megahax]

Imma be real with you, 682 has never shown the ability to do that, I have zero clue where people got the idea that thats something 682 can do to win.

I've written for the wiki and lurked many of the articles on the site since Series 3 and I can assure you, he has.

The Lucky Dinosaur is a tale that already puts him on a comparable level to Time Trapper anyway and that's not even getting into the wackier extended canon like 6820 or the Djoricverse stuff.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

I feel like a lot of these, they only hate because of glazers, which... IDK, doesn't feel right to me. That'd be like saying the show should stop using certain franchises purely because they get glazed within the versus community.

 

[Tipper17]

He's had it

since January of 2025 so almost two years so far.

He blew up a starro planet on his own with this power a few months ago and defeated a immortal god who had the entire power of the blue in him

Ya got scans of this stuff?

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Some stuff like canon on characters that were fanfiction beforehand though is a legit concern though, how you establish for these sort of media whats counting and whats not

 

[BlackDarkness679]

 

[Nick443]

Ya got scans of this stuff?

 

[Fezzih_007]

 

[Nick443]

Peak cinema right there

 

[Megahax]

I don't get how this guy's claims that 682 shouldn't be used because of "slop scalers" as if Death Battle didn't go out of their way to read every single canon issue of Superman from his debut in Action Comics #1 up to whatever the last issue was in Rebirth for the cutoff point for Goku vs Superman 3's research.

Also lmao he had a point with every other character in his list but once he got to 682, it was literally him complaining about "slop scalers" and then made it about SCP-343 for some reason.

 

[Hunterzillas]

So Doomsday is doomed to become the Time Trapper, as a means of surviving entropy. After that, he can't really evolve, because nothing else could kill him. After he dies one more time though, he'll become an "alpha force" to counteract Darkseid's omega force.

While Doomsday sacrificed himself and gave Superman those energies, theoretically if 682 kills Time Trapper Doomsday, he would ascend into the alpha force anyways, right?

TT Doomsday is pretty much a future version of Doomsday that has adapted a ton throughout the years, he also sacrificed himself to give Superman an amp strong enough to battle against an amped Darkseid

yes and he willingly lost it, hes been the time trapper since 2024 so its usable imo. It also negates the "send him to the end of time" 682 wincon that people had for years

 

[Nick443]

So Doomsday is doomed to become the Time Trapper, as a means of surviving entropy. After that, he can't really evolve, because nothing else could kill him. After he dies one more time though, he'll become an "alpha force" to counteract Darkseid's omega force.

While Doomsday sacrificed himself and gave Superman those energies, theoretically if 682 kills Time Trapper Doomsday, he would ascend into the alpha force anyways, right?

Don't know much about it but there some arguments for it

When Doomsday first appeared as the Time Trapper, he claimed that if he were to evolve just one more time he would ascend into a state of divinity, ruling over all of existence, while never showed it, the ending in dc ko has a good representation of it.

Doomsday possesses within his body both Omega Energy and Alpha Energy, the most primal forces in all of reality. Omega is the force of pure destruction and Entropy. It is evil incarnate, and directly tied to Darkseid and Apokolips. The Alpha, on the other hand, is the utmost form of Creation, wild, explosive and chaotic.

But idk, Doomsday vs scp 682 it's an actual headhache for see who truly wins nowadays.

 

[AcidSilver]

I don't get how this guy's claims that 682 shouldn't be used because of "slop scalers" as if Death Battle didn't go out of their way to read every single canon issue of Superman from his debut in Action Comics #1 up to whatever the last issue was in Rebirth for the cutoff point for Goku vs Superman 3's research.

Also lmao he had a point with every other character in his list but once he got to 682, it was literally him complaining about "slop scalers" and then made it about SCP-343 for some reason.

Personally I don't care for SCP in Death Battle because either you go full composite or none at all and for 682 in particular you really can't deny that he has a lot of feats that were added by people who just wanted to make him stronger. Capeshit characters have bullshit feats but at the end of the day those are just a side effect of the stories that the writers are trying to tell. 682 has just turned into "let's see how much more OP we can make him" the character.

 

[Megahax]

I think it's a lot funnier that you think the capeshit writers don't do the same thing (especially in the past decade or so) that you're claiming that SCP writers are doing. Like, even you admit that the cape characters have bullshit feats but suddenly we're gonna start pointing fingers at SCP even though if it weren't for Djoric and 682's Termination Log, it wouldn't have led to this point where other writers got inspired to do similar cosmology worldbuilding or meta bullshittery caused by Minmin's SCP-2747 and Roget's SCP-3500.

Like, Lucky Dinosaur was written by Sophia Light who was one of the site's admins and one of their most influential authors 11 years ago. And that was the story that put 682 firmly into Time Trapper's league. It's pretty disingenuous to argue that this is all a recent reinvention of 682 made to spite powerscalers lmao

 

[AcidSilver]

I think it's a lot funnier that you think the capeshit writers don't do the same thing (especially in the past decade or so) that you're claiming that SCP writers are doing. Like, even you admit that the cape characters have bullshit feats but suddenly we're gonna start pointing fingers at SCP even though if it weren't for Djoric and 682's Termination Log, it wouldn't have led to this point where other writers got inspired to do similar cosmology worldbuilding or meta bullshittery caused by Minmin's SCP-2747 and Roget's SCP-3500.

Like, Lucky Dinosaur was written by Sophia Light who was one of the site's admins and one of their most influential authors 11 years ago. And that was the story that put 682 firmly into Time Trapper's league. It's pretty disingenuous to argue that this is all a recent reinvention of 682 made to spite powerscalers lmao

If you genuinely think that comic writers are going out of their way to make characters super strong because of power scaling then you genuinely need to take a break from this community because actual writers do not give a shit about this stuff and would think you're stupid for caring about it