General DC Comics Discussion Thread

[Frankky123]

Superman barely has legitimate regular 3d multiversal feats. His current rating is already quite generous. Attempting to try to scale him to 1A or above is literal insanity. He has NO possible way of reaching 1A power anyway. He is not like The Flash or other such beings who have 1A or above power sources. He is powered by sunlight.

In conclusion solar panels are 1A, Superman is a solar panel, humans can break solar panels. Therefore humans are above Superman and other Kryptonians.

That masterpiece multiverse is shown to have 1-A realms?
And not every kryptonian will scale to this. It was extreme situation, sure. But it was destruction feat.

 

[Frankky123]

Franky. I’m confused on what you’re trying to argue. We have a whole note explaining why Superman’s level of power he displayed against the World Forger is a special circumstance. If you believe Superman has a canonical legitimate metaphysical connection to the very plot, why aren’t you using that as justification?

Im not focusing about he punch world forger. But destruction feat.

 

[Antvasima]

Please stop spamming about the same topic in any case.

 

[Frankky123]

Please stop spamming about the same topic in any case.

Okay, but does destruction feat can be outlier like chainscalling character to character?

 

[AyOgUyS]

Franky. Superman was amped by a bunch of 6th Dimension Suns when he destroyed the World Forger's multiverse. That's not a level of power he can normally replicate. If you really want to argue 1-A Superman, instead of bringing up the same topic that's been thoroughly discussed, why not use your own accepted previous threads as evidence? You believe Superman has some kind of metaphysical connection to the very narrative of DC itself or something like that, no? Why are you not using that to justify Superman having a 1-A source?

 

[Frankky123]

Franky. Superman was amped by a bunch of 6th Dimension Suns when he destroyed the World Forger's multiverse. That's not a level of power he can normally replicate. If you really want to argue 1-A Superman, instead of bringing up the same topic that's been thoroughly discussed, why not use your own accepted previous threads as evidence? You believe Superman has some kind of metaphysical connection to the very narrative of DC itself or something like that, no? Why are you not using that to justify Superman having a 1-A source?

Okay, i just thought destruction feat is absolute unlike chainscalling that can be outlier.

 

[AyOgUyS]

Okay, i just thought destruction feat is absolute unlike chainscalling that can be outlier.

Superman when he one shot the World Forger and cracked the Sixth Dimension was 1-A or 1-A+ or wherever that scales. However he did not retain that power nor is he able to tap into that power again. It's not about the feat being an outlier, its about the feat not being scalable to normal base Superman.

 

[Bimgus8010]

Damn bruh, what is happening?

-"Superman barely Multi" In the big 2026?
-"Superman 1A"

This is truly our DC comics of all time

 

[Antvasima]

Look, I love Superman when he is written properly, but he just hasn't been depicted as that powerful on his own.

 

[AyOgUyS]

Damn bruh, what is happening?

-"Superman barely Multi" In the big 2026?
-"Superman 1A"

This is truly our DC comics of all time

Soon we will have High 1-A (Infinite Ultra Super Meta Qualitative Jumps) base Batman!
this is a joke

 

[Bimgus8010]

Both of the wank and downplay presented have already been discussed on other threads

https://vsbattles.com/threads/superman-rebirth-2-a-removal.131771/ 16 pages

Let's not do this again

Let's also not try and do some goofy ahh thing on barely scaling superman to "3D multiverse"

Idk what this even means, superman barely scales to infinite 3D spaces?

Scaling him below Goku is diabolical

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[AyOgUyS]

Scaling him below Goku is diabolical

we all know Goku solos fiction!
this is a joke

 

[Bimgus8010]

Anyway, To change topics

I realized that this thread

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Is kinda getting active again

Problem that I have is that, let's say hypothetically this passes somehow

What would even pass?

Op of the post didn't suggest/mentioned tiers and it doesn't seem like he's gonna come back in a while

Is this thread now just OUR thing? We are taking care of it now? And we suggest tiers?

 

[Rgerdeena]

Scaling him below Goku is diabolical

What about cc goku

 

[Bimgus8010]

What about cc goku

I have no idea cuz I'm not even surface level deep in those versions of db scaling

But taking from this wiki

Even if you equalize stats, I think those gokus outhaxes although I think some of the haxes are getting debunked because of obv reasons

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[TheBestBoi]

it was 6D suns Loooool what else it can be?

where was that even said???? did the 6D speed force also made flash nuke the entire city with his speed alone? did the 6D emotional spectrum made GL create unbreakable 6D constructs too? 6D belief and fate for wonder woman? @prompted already covered this

As I stated in one of my previous comments:

To put it in quantitative terms as is otherwise not possible due to the qualitative differences:

Say the normal universe has a tier value of X
Say Superman has a tier value of X * 100 which we will state is equal to multiverse level+ (2A)

When translated into the Sixth Dimension:
A Sixth Dimensional Universe now has a tier value of say γX
Superman now has a tier value of γX * 100

Superman has been scaled up in power in the Sixth Dimension; however, everything else is also scaled up as well. The difference between Superman and the universe he inhabits remains the same in the Sixth Dimension as it does in the regular universe. He has not gained any relative power. In this quantitative example the multiple of 100 remains the same in bother layers of reality so there is no difference. If you were scaled up to be a geometrically 5D being, but everything in the universe was also scaled up with you, then from your perspective nothing has changed at all.

This means that if we do concede that Superman destroyed the World Forger's multiverse in the Sixth Dimension, it is still only a 2A feat. Regardless, this does not matter as Superman already has 2A feats so this would change nothing just being more supporting evidence. The problem with putting this on his page, as previously stated, is it will cause too much confusion.

 

[Frankky123]

where was that even said???? did the 6D speed force also made flash nuke the entire city with his speed alone? did the 6D emotional spectrum made GL create unbreakable 6D constructs too? 6D belief and fate for wonder woman? @prompted already covered this

That multiverse isn't just orerry, but the map multiverse. Gven it has its own sphere of god(apokolips) and that multiverse was meant to replace the monitor sphere, since wf's goal here is to avoid the entire multiverse from source's judgement who is beyond the map of multiverse itself.

Im just saying how big is the multiverse that destroyed by Superman. Nothing else

 

[AyOgUyS]

To be honest Batman effortlessly mogs the verse.