I'll copy and paste what I told bambu because Dread's thread is just flawed. (I am not arguing for MGQ or anything to be added)
I just have some issues with what Dread is trying to get across so I'll just let you hear it.
1. A game with the option to turn off explicit content is demonstratably not a level 4 verse as it shows that content is an entirely optional thing and not main focus of the material thus not falling under level 4. If it was the main focus of the material then there would be no game at all.
2. "H-Game" is a vague term and could refer to anything from Demonbane all the way to Futa Fix Dick Dine and Dash. The term "H-Game" should not apply to eroge verses as those types of verses are story oriented with sexual themes tacked onto it rather than the sexual content being the main focus of said material. "H-Games" should instead refer to nukiges or actual fetish based games such as MGQ.
I just have some issues with what Dread is trying to get across so I'll just let you hear it.
1. A game with the option to turn off explicit content is demonstratably not a level 4 verse as it shows that content is an entirely optional thing and not main focus of the material thus not falling under level 4. If it was the main focus of the material then there would be no game at all.
2. "H-Game" is a vague term and could refer to anything from Demonbane all the way to Futa Fix Dick Dine and Dash. The term "H-Game" should not apply to eroge verses as those types of verses are story oriented with sexual themes tacked onto it rather than the sexual content being the main focus of said material. "H-Games" should instead refer to nukiges or actual fetish based games such as MGQ.