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Do they all really show any actual significant performance by themselves completely separate?
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Pac-Man General Discussion Thread
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Like how most game characters are being treated as an example on there
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Yes, even in the very first game they were not carbon copies of each other: with examples like Blinky being the only one who has Passive Statistics Amplification, or Clyde being the only one who's programmed to actually avoid killing you.
-in Pac-Man Arrangement, they each have their own ability/transformation from their fusion with the yellow ghost.
-in Pac-Man World 2, they're each fought separately at the ends of their respective worlds, with Clyde piloting a giant robot frog, Pinky piloting an ice mech that can freeze Pac-Man, etc.
-in Pac-Man World 3, Blinky and Pinky are playable in some sections. Blinky can spam destructive soundwaves and fire a massive sonic blast, while Pinky's ability is to create platforms (by causing spectral platforms to become corporeal) for Pac-Man to use.
-in Pac-Man Monsters, they all have different elements and statistics
-finally, they have different personalities and standard tactics. Blinky (the most aggressive and blood-lusted one) doesn't act the same as Clyde (the stupid and passive one) in a fight.
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A 44-year anniversary bump.
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Noticed that Mollusc is listed on the verse page. Can he really get a profile when he only has around 1 minute of screen time? (And he's not even fought in gameplay)
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Well, apparently unknown stats are allowed in some cases and he does have spacetime powers according to the wiki. I am not familiar enough with the Pac-Man franchise to say whether he is worth making a profile or not though.
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That's usually only if they're a haxxer
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Kaiser shared this character analysis blog to me on Discord a while ago, and I'll say, it's quite impressive. (though I don't think we should go for Universal Pac right away)
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Pooka appears in Pac man world 1 & 2, and Fygar and Mr. Driller appear in Pac man world rally is the biggest evidence I see. That may not mean they are canon, but they have at least had crossovers.
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Pretty good blog,
Also, iirc, someone already tried to make Pac-Man universal here, but It got rejected
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At least that'll place Spooky around the same tier as others instead of simply scaling to his own feats, but clearly upscales from nearly all of them (except Pac-Man who can fight him when powered up with the Golden Fruits, and maybe Erwin with preparation/ED).
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I took a look at it, the most important stuff is:
- The KE generated by Pac-Man´s Reality Warping being calculated at 5-A
- Pac having some Relativistic to MFTL+ feats
- Ms Pac-Man supposedly having a Country level feat
- Professor Pac-Man "having" a MFTL+ feat
- Toc-Man´s MFTL+ feat
- Dig Dug Scaling lmao
- Hanna Barbera´s Pac-Man Power pallets being Small Country due to f#cking Santa Claus
- Universal Pac-Man.....
- Erwin´s MFTL+ feat
- Pac-Land being a country
- Can´t give my thoughts about the 5-A calc due to i knowing pretty much nothing about KE (lol), but it looks good ig
- Ngl, the biggest part of the Relativistic to MFTL+ feats looks not usable in any way, although a few of them might be fine, however, we may be entering on Uncle Outlier´s territory with them, so it´s better we get more proof
- The Ms Pac-Man feat looks weird tbh, i admit that i never played this game, but there is any proof that the villain was acutally being empowered by the gems?
- Dig Dug scaling is a big no-go for me due to obvious reasons, the evidence presented consists of a crossover and an enemy appearing in both games, which, honestly, is very weak
- Hanna Barbera´s Pac-Man scaling looks acceptable i think
- I really have no opinion about Universal Pac-Man, but if you guys are crazy enough to try it i will support
- Pac-Land being a country looks ok in my view
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Does Namco ever stated a canon for Pac-Man? I agree with the cartoons not being canon btw
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No, but nothing in that show really proves that it's in the same exact universe as the mainstream games
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I've read through the blog, here's my thoughts so far:
- 5-A through KE makes sense, since it's consistent with other KE calcs that involve moving planets in a similar way.
- MFTL+ through the King Galaxian and Asteroid Antic levels may sound a bit ambiguous, but I'm leaning towards supporting it, since those levels do show Pac-Man moving past planetoids, stars and nebulae.
- Professor Pac-Man's speed feat doesn't seem usable, as it just shows him going offscreen with no indication of how fast he got back home. Toc-Man's feat has the same problem.
- Currently, the Tier 2 feat is treated as Environmental Destruction on Erwin's profile. Re-reading the dialogue, Tier 2 durability for Erwin's giant mechas seems to be implied, but consider that it could just apply to Erwin's forcefields specifically (which Pac-Man isn't able to damage)
- Pac-Land being a country is legit.
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Here are my two cents on this.
(Gonna ignore Ghostly Adventures and Hanna Barbera as they're clearly not canon to the mainstream games)
- Pac's two MFTL+ feats do stand out, but the problem is the second MFTL+ feat doesn't really give a supporting calc as well which was bothering me. I can't really say the same for the Professor as he doesn't really provide any timeframe at all. The Toc-Man one is also making the same exact mistake as well.
- The evidence between Pac-Man and the Dig Dug universes doesn't really seem that strong enough for them to be cross-scaled to each other.
- Can't really say much for the Tier 2 scaling, but we already have that as Environmental Destruction for Erwin, so eh.
- 5-A through KE does check out though.
- Pac-Land being considered a country is fine.
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I think we have a chance of getting MFTL+ Pac-Man if we find at least 3 to 4 feats on that scale
