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First off, no, the argument isn't based entirely around R>Fs, nor does this make everyone and their mother outerversal or above (in fact the scaling will be covered in further detail in another CRT). With that out of the way...
The arguments in full are presented here, and in summary explore a more unusual way to qualify for such high tiers, by exploring the full connotations and nature of the metaphysical aspects that make up the cosmology of the series yet are independant of it and formless.
To avoid misconceptions I'll also reiterate some crucial semantics that the arguments are based on for this kind of premise:
Also major thanks to @ThatBoiRick, @Milly_Rocking_Bandit, @TheKingStrategist13 and others that helped to research and polish the arguments.
The arguments in full are presented here, and in summary explore a more unusual way to qualify for such high tiers, by exploring the full connotations and nature of the metaphysical aspects that make up the cosmology of the series yet are independant of it and formless.
To avoid misconceptions I'll also reiterate some crucial semantics that the arguments are based on for this kind of premise:
https://vsbattles.com/threads/1-a-high-1-a-tier-0-revisions-hub.169763/post-6632181
@DontTalkDT:
@Ultima_Reality:
@DontTalkDT:
Does someone remember where we agreed to place "controlling/embodying all concepts"? I mean in the case where concepts refer to something like universals, to be clear. (Since I know we use the term loosely)
Just thinking about what to do with the more powerful concept manipulators![]()
@Ultima_Reality:
Depends on the type of concept, I'd say. If the universals don't subsist independently of the particulars and instead are wholly coterminous with them, then having power over all concepts just scales to however large your cosmology is.
If they subsist independently of the particulars, and aren't conditioned by them (Instead they are the source and basis of the particulars to begin with), then that gets a lot more interesting. In that case, the concept "Space" would obviously encompass all extensions of time, and the same goes for "Time." So it can't really be lower than Low 1-A at the least. I think it could vary between 1-A and High 1-A+ depending on the context.
Also major thanks to @ThatBoiRick, @Milly_Rocking_Bandit, @TheKingStrategist13 and others that helped to research and polish the arguments.
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