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conceptual manipulation

  1. ExSENNA

    Question about Conceptual Manipulation

    So I'm kinda new here and I read the page Conceptual Manipulation but I'm not sure if I understand it, specially Type 2 Can someone explain what a type 2 concept is, how a character would qualify having it, prefably with example feats? Thanks.
  2. Elizhaa

    Conceptual Manipulation adjustment

    Inspired from this thread: Soul Manipulation Adjustment This thread is on updating the Conceptual Manipulation page like the other thread did with the Soul Manipulation's. Currently, Conceptual Manipulation is roughly described as Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create...
  3. Amexim

    Type 3 Ab. Exist. is a thing, but it's less AE and more Avatar/Smurf existence...

    https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3028045?useskin=oasis#157 <———- this thread is where I and I think (correct me if I am wrong) Ant noticed that characters can be embodiments of concepts [and other stuff] without being literal ideas (type 1) or existing as a part of ideas or something (whatever...
  4. TheImagineBreaker121212

    Updating The Currently Outdated Conceptual Manipulation Page?

    so this idea cam fro Ultima Reality's comment "Ultima Reality wrote: That page is ostensibly outdated in relation to the current Tiering System; At the very least we should start using different terminology from "False" and "True" Platonic Concepts, since Platonism is one of those philosophies...
  5. Iapitus_The_Impaler

    Touhou Gods Contradiction

    I'll try to be brief. Perhaps it is something missing from the profiles, but as they stand, the profiles for the Touhou Gods have basically all of them as Type 1 Abstracts, beings who exist and concepts and ideas, yet are also stated to precede the existence of conception. How does this work? If...
  6. TheImagineBreaker121212

    A missing asset to Conceptual Manipulation a little problem which should probably be addressed

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Conceptual_Manipulation so we all know about the relations to conceptual manipulation that being the types 1. True Platonic Concept: Such concepts, or forms, are completely transcendent of reality in every aspect. These forms are 1-A in nature, as they are...
  7. ShivaShakti

    Questions about Conceptual Manipulation

    Currently Type 2 Concept is defined as Such concepts, or forms, are mostly transcendent of reality. These concepts shape all of reality and whatever level that reality exists in, and everything in reality "participates" in these concepts. These concepts interact with their objects in the same...
  8. Oliver_de_jesus

    Question about existence and concepts

    Well, character A has an object that allows him to totally control a facet of existence, for example souls. then you could say that this object has Conceptual Manipulation? (if so it would be type 4 to 3 or 2?)
  9. StrymULTRA

    Mid-Godly regen and High-Godly regen vs Conceptual erasure

    As asked in the title, can conceptual erasure negate mid-godly and/or high godly Regenerationn?
  10. Hagane_no_Saiyajin

    The true reason why the Azure Grimoire is haxed AF

    So I was having a debate with certain forum member (who is a BB fan), who I won't name out of respect, over if Arc could resist the Azure Grimoire and other BB weapons or not, spoilers we agreed to no, but for differing reasons, although on her profile she had resistance to conceptial weapons...
  11. DragonEmperor23

    Hitting someone on different levels of existence

    If Person A hit Person B in the soul while Person B has no resistance to soul manip, will Person B instantly die from that first hit? I used soul here but I'm also asking about what would happen if it was concept or mind instead.
  12. Huge problem with the diagram!

    The diagram has a huge problem! It implies that there exists an imperfect cat! This is an outrage against human decency, and obviously false! Every cat is a perfect being infinitely beyond the Form of the Good! How dare you insult Gulliver so!
  13. Oliver_de_jesus

    Abstract existence vs información hax and regeneratión negation

    Can an abstract existence Type 1 be affected without conceptual manipulation that such with a high level of hax information? and the negation of Mid-Godly Regenerationn based on reconstructing its concept, can it null abstract existence type 2?
  14. Oliver_de_jesus

    Can type 4 conceptual manipulation affect abstract beings type 1 that are fundamental?

    Can?
  15. Yobo_Blue

    Ninjago Concept Manipulation

    So, in the story of The Dark Island trilogy, Clouse was going to use the power of Dark Matter to destroy the balance, which is the nature of reality, corrupting the essence of reality and turning the balance to darkness. Could this be considered concept manipulation? A few scans for some context
  16. MrDrProfessorPatricio

    Conceptual Manipulation Type 4

    This has been bothering me so how does it apply in combat?
  17. JohnCenaNation

    Can Jugram Haschwalth survive existence erasure?

    https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3503497#387 So I'm currently having an agrument with someone in this battle thread if Jugram's The Balance can counter Existence Erasure. You know, Jugram gets erased from existence, but then The Balance suddenly saves his life by bringing him back to existence...
  18. Spinoirr

    Question about conceptual manipulation

    If a character has type 4, how exactly do they use this haxs in battle?
  19. Stocking.exe

    About Conceptual Destruction

    Can conceptual destruction type 3 erased the concept of nonexistence being type 1? Thank you.
  20. Iapitus_The_Impaler

    Abnormal Concepts that do not Fit

    How do we treat concepts that fall outside of the usual classifications we use? Do we list them as something else on the profile or do we just not categorize them? I don't have much time to discuss but this was a rather burning question in my head, that I felt compelled to ask. For context, the...
  21. Setsuna_tenma

    Doctor who concept

    Where does the type 2 concept manipulation come from?
  22. Oblivion_Of_The_Endless

    Conceptual Manip Type 2 and 3

    Whats the difference between them? And whats the requirements needed to be able to use each one? This power is the one that confuses me the most.... (Also, some examples/applications of both types would be good too)
  23. Zaratthustra

    Conceptual Manipulation Short Question

    Character X is able to manipulate a part of the Concept of Slow which makes him able to compress, slow and freeze space. Concept of Fast to blur, distort, fold, congeal space and able to simultaneously slash from more directions. While if he combines them he can manipulate the Concept of...
  24. Gun_Slave_Unit

    kamen rider ex-aid conceptual stuff

    just wondering on what type this kind of thing would qualify for https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3289199 in that wall thread i messaged someone to confirm on what the scan said. the scan itself pretty much said "a built-in stage editing device that allows the user to freely control the concept...
  25. A Small Change for Nil

    Well, it's pretty simple, as everyone know, Nil is the Concept of Nothingness itself, more precisely, from the Primordial Void before and after creation, but there is problem to this, how to classify this kind of Concept? without more proof the concept is only type 3 but the problem isn't the...
  26. IraFeuerbach

    What kind of ability would that be?

    Hi I have a question regarding what that could be. It's about the game Vampires Dawn. During the end of VD1 the main protagonist Valnar was able to kill his master Asgar he was inside his (Asgars) Etherrealm. Usually this isn't possible, because when a vampire makes a human in this verse to its...
  27. Hierarchy in Concepts?

    Well then, All started in a thread where Don't Talk brought the idea of "Low 2-C Concepts" and more,he basically said that there exist a "hierarchy" into concepts like he said, "Low 2-C Concepts" for Concepts which created Universe and more, i don't talk about the range of the concept which...
  28. Emperorj7

    Message from Emperorj7

    The term itself is an oxymorn. A platonic concept's literal point is to be the truest and perfect form of a concept and you can say it is above truth as well. To say that there is a version of this that is "false" is really idioc since it contradicts what platonic concept is. Some people also...
  29. SSJRyu1

    Infinite Zamasu Abstract existence and Concept manipulation

    So it's stated Zamasu not only merged with the Universe, but became "one with Justice and Order itself". https://imgur.com/a/fvwN96U I think this could qualify him for Abstract existance by being the concepts of order and of Justice themselves. I also think he could get Concept manipulation...
  30. Iamunanimousinthat

    Characters made from Abstract material.

    I'm making this thread because I think our abstract existence page is lacking. There needs to be an inclusion or at least a 4th type of abstraction for characters whom are made from abstract material. Characters that are made from abstract material. These characters don't embody a specific...
  31. MrLuk2000

    How do you bypass High and True Godly regen?

    I know that for Low-Godly you need existence erasure and for Mid-Godly you need at least Type 2 Conceptual Manipulation, but how or what abilites do you need to bypass High and True Godly?
  32. Agnaa

    Limited Concept Manip for Kakegae Yuzuriha

    Kakegae's Metonymy ability description says Yuzuriha's second style grants her the ability to "rephrase". She can take the concept of "oneself" and replace it with another concept of similar attributes. This allows her to physically transform into another person, and even use their...
  33. Blackcurrant91

    Physical Attack potency

    Say a character like the ones from Nipponverse for instance. Have the physical attack power to destroy a universe with a punch. Does this in a way give you a form of conceptual manipulation due to being able to via sheer power destroy the universe and thus the concepts embodied in that...
  34. QuasiYuri

    What kind of Platonic Concept is this?

    "There are two things absolutely fundamental to this reality: platonic idealism-based concept and trolling." "It's a universe not so much of physics as of concrete ideas, and devices that trades with these platonic concepts can understand nothing else." "This is another indication that the...
  35. Elizhaa

    Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Conceptual Manipulation

    From chapter 62: "A spirit is… "In nothingness power finds its fill. That is a holy spirit. The great holy spirit is the source of power. Among these, light and darkness, the two great spirits. Who came to exist at the same moment as the world. But, the world was without form, a ephemeral...
  36. RM97

    What kind of Conceptual Manipulation is this??

    A group of beings residing in higher dimension plane of existence are able to create a regular 4D multiverse with their imaginations, ideas, emotions, and thoughts. Said universes and all their aspects within the multiverse are completely defined & shaped by the ideas of the beings and even if...
  37. ZacharyGrossman273

    Yahvo additions

    Obviously, I must choose some starting point as my anchor. Writing Ages is a science - a precisely structured equation of words. Every equation needs as its foundation an underlying concept around which the Age can develop. In the past, I have written my Books around whatever idea intrigued me...
  38. Firephoenixearl

    What would color manipulation fall under?

    There are some characters in some series that have the ability to manipulate color (and not just change the color of stuff but apply ideas to said color). Some examples: Applying gray = Makes the object turn to ash or steel Applying Yellow = Creates a blinding flash Applying Blue = Creates a...
  39. Omnitraxus100

    Questions About Platonic Concepts

    1.Wouldn't simply being a Platonic Concept warrant 1-A tiering altogether. Platonic forms are beyond duality and non-dualism + dimensions 2.How does Platonic Conceptual Manipulation function in an actual confrontation
  40. Elizhaa

    Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Conceptual Resistance

    "And since then, these were the great eight spirits. Until the light consumes the world, erasing darkness. Until a new spirit is born, erasing all. Life and death, heralding the coming end of the world." Based on this response from Celestial Pegasus: I proposed Resistance to Conceptual...
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