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low 2-c

  1. ItzBanee

    Revisiting 2-C (12 Universes) Base Sonic, Low 1-C or 2-C (2 Universes)?

    Introduction Hello, I would like to thank everyone who has participated in this wiki and everyone who has helped grow the Sonic section of the wiki. However, there has always been one rating that has bugged me, and I am making a CRT to hopefully bring discussion and soon change this rating...
  2. Jinx666

    Figuring out Tiering of this Structure (3-A or Low 2-C?)

    Hi there, I need help from people who know about tiering structures (and how characters would scale while interacting/destroying them) So i've been racking my brain a little about how to tier the structure (or species of structure ig) called Mystery Labyrinths from the game/verse Master...
  3. Iamunanimousinthat

    Neutral Space Downgrade Thread

    This is a thread to downgrade the neutral space. Recently this thread passed. However, I want to point out that there is a major problem with it. The Neutral Space was over inflated in order to get this passed: History: It was decided that the Neutral Zone was a 4D structure because it holds...
  4. Saqphire

    Wouldn't Low 2-C destruction feats cause paradoxes?

    This is a pretty general question, not directed towards any verse but will use verses as an example. Low 2-C stipulates that the entirety of a timeline (thus an entire space-time continuum) would need to be created/destroyed/significantly affected. However, when it comes to feats of characters...
  5. Weaver261

    (2 STAFF NEED) Genshin Low 2-C Downgrade

    I took a break for a while and while I am gone, I saw neuvillete Low 2-C? What is this bs? I checked the upgrade thread, it was filled was misinformations and yet it passed? What's going on? So, I will debunk why genshin Low 2-C is not possible for now and why it's not universal in this thread...
  6. Galactidot

    Better Call Solitude (Mario and Luigi Brothership 2nd CRT (3-A, 2-C, or 2-B))

    That's right, we're back. Sorry. This will build off of the previous, locked CRT, Breaking Bond (see what I did with the titles?) and bring up new points, revolving around Reclusa's abilities and hierarchy among other higher beings of the Mario verse. This will be divided into three sections...
  7. TheWikiTiki20

    What tier is a quantum field?

    Hi, this is my first post on this forum (hopefully I did everything correctly!) As a professional mathematician who thinks a lot about theoretical physics, I often find myself studying "quantum fields", which are essentially the most fundamental components of reality within our current best...
  8. Thanganimator

    Withstands an explosion send characters back in time

    Is it time travel or is the character's durability Low-2c to withstand an explosion that causes time to reverse? I mean the explosion should at least affect time, right?
  9. Bsk_lyree

    Sonoro sphere is L2c (wuthering waves)

    Hello everyone, since the Wuthering Waves page is now available, I’d like to try upgrading the Sonoro Sphere to Low 2-C. SUMMARY FOR REMNANT ENERGY AND SONORO SPHERE Remnant is a form of energy said to transcend space and time itself. It represents the purest state of frequency, carrying...
  10. TheOrangeGuy09

    Timeline destruction should not grant hax

    Permission granted by @Qawsedf234. Hello. The point of this thread is that abilities/hax should not be granted for destroying all of cosmology, or a similar feat. The main problem with the former is that Causality Manipulation, Space-Time Manipulation, Non-Physical Interaction with Laws, etc...
  11. Quick Dragon Ball GT Addition (Hopefully)

    Hello, well I will be quick with this one as the title suggests. This feat is about scaling the infamous Sugoroku space's feat, my aim is to add it on GT Goku's profile as another justification for it's rating. Now, I'm not gonna focus in wherever Goku destroyed the full dimension or not, or...
  12. Gp972

    Low 2-C(Universal+) and 2-C(Low multiversal)

    So to be low 2-C space has to be infinite or can it be finite? I mean, if you destroy/create/significantly affect Space (3D) + Time (1D) space has to be infinite Or by just destroying 4 dimensions(3 spatial + one temporal) you are already low 2-C? And destroying 2 space-times like this is 2-C right?
  13. GrandAdmiralCosmicBrains

    The King of England vs The King of Korea [4-0-0] [CONCLUDED]

    The greatest Kings of the era are headed to the ring today. This matchup is King Raúl (Unsealed) vs Yeongjo (Purple Lane) Speed is equalised Starting distance is 4KM SBA applies The King with No Fear - 4 The Final King of the Purple Lane - 0 They smooth brain one another - 0
  14. Huesito88

    A Lifting Strength and Universal+ Durability Scenario question

    Ok so an explosion destroys an entire 6-D universe (1-C) just before a character (Named D) crushes the neck of another character (Named V) using their hand's grip strength. After the smoke of the explosion goes away it is revealed that both D and V suffered zero damage as a result of the...
  15. Arc7Kuroi

    Tiering System Question

    What qualifies as a higher dimensional bulk space in the context of the Low 2-C definition on the tiering system page? Like say you have this all encompassing “astral sea” and within it are these spheres that represent entire universes. Presupposing they aren’t compactified, would this “astral...
  16. Causalist

    Catching Up To The Games: Archie Sonic Speed Upgrades + Low 2-C Post Genesis Wave

    With the recently accepted infinite speed upgrades for the game verse, here are the infinite speed feats needed for Archie to follow suit. Pre-Genesis Wave: As per the most recent cosmology upgrade, zones\universes are accepeted as infinite, which means that most of Sonic’s most impressive...
  17. Kulf_Boba

    Where do instantaneous transfinites come from in Low 2-C?

    Where does the uncountable snapshots come from to justify the transfinite level of Low 2-C? Is it the standard assumption that a cosmology in fiction follows the theory of The Evolving Universe Block or The Block Universe?
  18. Furudo_Erika

    About branching timelines/alternate universes

    I have seen several verses listed as 2-C to 2-A because they have a multiverse that operates under branching timelines. But this doesn't add up to the description of 2-C through 2-A; requiring them to be SEPARATE spacetimes. These branching timelines can all be traced back to a singular origin...
  19. Catpija

    Date A Live Revision: Low 2-C Edition

    The Entire World Reiryoku In Mukurou True Route, Date A Live Alternate Route, Shido managed to gather the entire world's reiryoku in order to send Mukurou in the past as long as possible. By doing this, he's actually ended up dooming the world. Kurumi commented that it would be the same as...
  20. PrinceofPein

    Another Addition/Revision to/for Tier 2

    While there is a general idea on how we treat the merging of universes/timelines and empty spaces. There is no written rule on it. This thread aims to change that since it does not hurt to have a solid rule on how we treat this cases. (And as usual, I do not mind a clean up of the language to...
  21. Phsccarvalho

    Question about Level 1 (jumping from a 4D to 5D world)

    Okay, let's say there is a world (1) Low 2-C, and there is a world (2) higher that sees this world as fiction, so Low 1-C isn't it? There is a character that is from world 1 and has such a tier, for example tier 7, but when he "goes up" to world 2, he can change world 1 in any way he wants...
  22. LuisGeno

    Question about space-time.

    If there is a universe, in which its size is infinite, and at the same time, its temporal dimension/4D time is infinite, this already counts as qualitative superiority, doesn't it? Since, a moment in the infinite time line is infinitesimal to all infinite time, and that moment of time (the...
  23. TiltedFN

    Dimensional attack potency

    If a character can nuke a low 2-C spacetime continuum, does that mean he can nuke a low 2-C spatial dimension?
  24. PrinceNine

    Low 2-C Spatial Dimensions

    Maybe it's something we all know unanimously, but I'm a little confused about it. Afaik, destroying regular space-time (which is 3 spatial + 1 time) it's a requirement for Low 2-C. So, how about destroying 4 spatial dimensions but have nothing to do with temporal dimension? It's still Low 2-C...
  25. BanishZone

    Tiers for 4D Characters

    What tier would the following 4D characters be? Character A: This character just has infinite superiority to all 3D characters. Character B: This character has infinite superiority to all 3D characters and can significantly affect parts of her home realm, which exists in a 4D area. Character...
  26. ashen

    Does an higher dimensional AP grant HAX negation

    i have an important question regarding higher dimensions AP : lets make a simulation : if an low 2-C being with high godly regeneration fight an Low 1-C one with no hax at all to negate it. Does the low 1-C being gonna negate the regeneration of the low 2-C one or not ? thank you for your...
  27. LuisGeno

    Low 2-C Quick Basic Question

    Good day. Sorry if I keep pestering you with "basic" questions about the level system, but I have to ask; If there is a whole space-time continuum (of infinite size), is it necessary to demonstrate the qualitative superiority of the temporal dimension over the 3 spatial dimensions to qualify as...
  28. Bossbrosish

    Would this be a low 2-C or 2-C

    If a character created a pocket dimension that contained two parallel timelines would that be Low 2-C or 2-C?
  29. Padaruyos

    A question about "Half 2-C"

    Character X fights an evil version of himself called X'. His fight with his evil self nearly causes the destruction of 2 universes. The feat is Baseline 2-C, and both X and X' gets an "At most 2-C" rating for being "Half 2-C" Sometime later, X learns a technique of a transformation that doubles...
  30. Omegabronic

    half 2-C is against the standards and should be eliminated

    Currently there are several pages that use "half 2-C" justification, problem is that, by our standards, you can't multiply nor divide tier 2 into higher or lower tiers https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System#Notes Note 1: Due to the fact that the distance between any given number of...
  31. Low Multi Requirements Spacetime continuum requirements ?

    Lets say we have a 4-d character who can destroy an object in the past present and future. Does this mean that the character is low multi? Or do they have to be able to destroy an universe in the past, present, and future.
  32. Robo432343

    Naruto vs Shadow

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Naruto_Uzumaki_(Storm_Series)#Road_To_Boruto VS https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Shadow_(Shadow_Fight) Both Low 2-C Speed = SBA
  33. Braking

    Quick and prob stupid question

    Does a big bang = low 2-c
  34. Soulgizmo

    Beerus vs baldur gods vs gods

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Beerus https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Baldur_(God_of_War) speed is equalized and both are in character Fight takes place in the leaf village and they start 100 yards apart Lazy Cat: RagingInsomniac Mommy issues: Naruto steps in:
  35. Spinoirr

    Vs battle wiki vs FCOC vs battle wiki: low 2-C tournament

    TOURNAMENT RULES: The bracket is open to 16 participants Two characters per user Speed will be equalized low to mid haxs only A period of one week will be given for debate. After 7 days, if this match has not been concluded, the one with the most votes will advance. If it is inconclusive or...
  36. Soulgizmo

    Mui Goku vs saint seiya

    Low 2-c key for seiya https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(DBS_Anime) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Pegasus_Seiya Goku: Seiya: Incon:
  37. Soulgizmo

    Dyspo vs 17 1/6/0 (grace)

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Android_17 https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Dyspo Fight takes place in the Tornament of power. Android 17 has a gun. Winner by ko or ringout. Mvp 17:Greatsage13th 3rd strongest pride trooper: CiscoTheSoto, Vizer04, C2_of_Omegon, Cimafranca133,Nierre, soulgizmo...
  38. Lukewoesal007

    What does it mean to be "above baseline" for Tier 2?

    How do Low 2-C/2-C/2-B/2-A characters become above baseline?
  39. Soulgizmo

    Saix vs Hades (Gow)

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hades_(God_of_War) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sa%C3%AFx Speed equalized and at the low 2-c tier. Fight takes place in an empty void and are both bloodlusted. Saix: Hades: Incon:
  40. Lightbuster30

    How do we treat backscaling to 2-C?

    How do we treat characters who are Low 2-C via backscaling to 2-C characters or feats? Characters who aren't 2-C individually but can contribute to 2-C feats with other characters? Characters who are "Unquantifiably" Low 2-C? I know I've seen it allowed for a few profiles, but is it actually the...
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