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well if the standard change then dmc can get the 9-D power,so we should wait until then
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a monkey vs a half devil
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for now, wukong win via bfr dante
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I see
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Dante resists BFR, every resistance is 9D.
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is the CRT applied?
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That current CRT is for 1C.
9D stuff we have for 5 months now... bfr stuff since last year.
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Wasn't it only the soul that was 9D?
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You maybe unaware since you are new to DMC stuff..
In short, all powers comes from soul and each every ability works on souls. Thus they all have resistance on that level. Soul is sort a unifying element as far as powers are concerned in DMC.
I vote Dante, he evolves the ability to kill Sun I guess, he has feats of that in plenty. You can check his RE/AD section.
In short, all powers comes from soul and each every ability works on souls. Thus they all have resistance on that level. Soul is sort a unifying element as far as powers are concerned in DMC.
I vote Dante, he evolves the ability to kill Sun I guess, he has feats of that in plenty. You can check his RE/AD section.
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Dante doesn't have a way to counter Dharma based resistances as far as I'm aware.
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I'll come back after dinner in 2 hours
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Alrighty
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so the 1-C can use right now :v,ok so what is Dharma again
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9D potency cosmic force that is a part of a 10D cosmic force
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That has a long nonexistence scaling chain and nondual.
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is that The Dharmakaya Abilities in the Buddhism Physiology ?
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Dharmakaya is currently 10D, Dharma which is part of the Dharmakaya is 9D. Wukong has limited subjective reality and information manipulation with Dharma.
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Sun Wukong stomps. Dharma stuff is actually 1C. Not just 9D.
We can do this battle again if and when 1C DMC passes. Then its fair.
We can do this battle again if and when 1C DMC passes. Then its fair.
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want to ask again,what different between 1C and 9D
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It seems to be sort of like the difference between three-dimensional and High 3-A. 9D just means nine-dimensional, granting some cheap hax and defense but not AP, whereas 1-C in this context means significantly affecting an infinite 9D structure, applying directly to AP.
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You said Dante is 9D tho...
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As the pages currently are, DMC souls and demons' underlying concepts are 9D, along with a whole lot of hax, but it isn't being applied to AP. The current CRT is asserting that the demon world is itself a nine-dimensional structure, and it's already confirmed to be infinite. DMC's Nightmare would be made 1-C by this revision, as would everyone who scales above him.
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Does the demon world have a NEP type 2 scaling chain and is also non-dual?
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The 9D stuff doesn't give them absolutely nothing except for some whacky range and higher dimensional existence or something along those lines.
The thread is irrelevant as it isn't applied or even finished.
I pretty much summarized how the whole match goes here.
The thread is irrelevant as it isn't applied or even finished.
What?
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Let me preface this by saying I'm not arguing for either side, merely explaining what's going on to people. In answer to your question, I don't know if anyone except Void Mundus is non-existent, although demons are able to harm non-existent targets as a result.
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What's their nonexistent scaling chain and are they non-dual to duality?
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I don't know if one non-existent character can make for a scaling chain. It's just that DMC2 light novel Dante was able to kill Void Mundus, and Dante now scales well above that version of himself in terms of power. Given that Dante's hax generally improves alongside his power, I can give a power scaling chain as a rough outline.
Void Mundus is non-existent and DMC2 light novel Dante can harm him.
< = stronger, << = strong enough to easily stomp
DMC2 light novel Dante < BoG DMC5 Dante << BoG DMC5 DT Dante < BoG DMC5 DT Dante with Sparda << BoG Urizen < mid-game Urizen < Fruit Urizen < DMC5 Dante and Vergil << DMC5 DT Dante and Vergil < Sin DT Dante and Vergil
That is unless another non-existence thing exists elsewhere, which is possible.
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Nep scaling chain as in one is more nonexistent than the other. I don't think Dante in general defeated anyone that is nonexistent that can't be interacted by other nonexistent beings
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Not through power
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NEP does not work like that, scaling would only apply if someone who can already interact with NEP cannot interact with another NEP for reasons like "I am more nothingness than the previous nothingness", "being nonexistent for even nonexistent beings" or things like that and proof that this is actually the case.
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Nonexistence in Non-Nonexistence (Everything existent in JTTW contains nonexistence.) < Void/Nonexistence/Nonexistent Spirits (Basic nonexistence.) < Transcendent Monks (Transduality Nonexistence) < Void of Void (Recursion of nonexistence within nonexistence) < Bodhisattva Emptiness/first stop (Every Bodihssatva is Nonexistent by nature and goes through ten stages while approaching true emptiness each superior to the last on each stage. Still has Transdual NEP as well.) < 2nd stop < 3rd stop < 4th stop < 5th stop < 6th stop < 7th stop < 8th stop < 9th stop < 10th stop < Buddha Emptiness/Great Void (True Emptiness beyond the false nonexistence of what came before it and everything existent and nonexistent.) < Dharmakaya (Existing beyond the state of True Emptiness as the only Real Void/Formless thing, nondual superior to transduality.
Here ya go, Dharma is just below Dharmakaya.
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This is something I don't even want to get into without having evaluated that NEP, plus I'm referring to how NEP scaling works.
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Just check the 21st or 22nd page of the top 5 strongest character per tier thread for clarification. Otherwise provide a better chain.
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I'm not talking about Sun Wukong's scaling, I'm saying that you don't even get a scaling to affect NEP just by being stronger than someone who can affect it.
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I clarified the same thing, but suddenly you bombarded me with Sun Wukong's scaling which clearly has a good scaling present.
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...? What?
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I figured scaling in power didn't apply, to be honest. But only one character in DMC has non-existent physiology, so there can't be a scaling chain like described above. Unless some other demon from somewhere in the franchise happens to have non-existent physiology.
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I see
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anyway if the 1-C accept,then this match will become incon again :v
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