A POSSIBLE Upgrade for Starters in Pokémon

[AidenBrooks999]

http://imgur.com/a/oYPTV

http://forums.hero-academia.com/xfa...of-the-false-kyogre-pokemon-adventures.19614/

^I found this on Swampert's profile, I can't really tell if we can scale all the starters pokemon, but, I think that the one that appear there (Blastoise, Feraligart, Swampert, Charizard, Typhlosion, Blazikem, Venusaur, Meganium and Sceptile) could get the scale.


If not, this should be removed from Swampert's profile.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Should the result be divided by 9?

 

[RadicalMrR]

Maybe, and I think Pikachu was also involved.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Looking at the page its just the 9 fully evolved starters using their super moves (Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, and Hydro Cannon), not Pikachu

 

[Antoniofer]

So, is that manga where it comes that silly questio; I can't see the scaling, can't tell much about the calc... I need at least how was determinated to last equation (PE)

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Pikachu and Pikachu helped tho, they used thunder thingy @Weekly

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Im looking at the manga pages where it happened, Pikachu isnt there

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Oh...nvm...

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Guys, Pichu was there as well and helped contribute to the damage...

 

[Cropfist]

I think this was previously dismissed as calc stacking.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I think this was dissmissed as calc stacking previously.

Were in the calc do you see calc stacking?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

The argument was that calcing the size of something is Calc Stacking.

Which is obviously nonsense.

 

[Antoniofer]

Using the size from a previous calc isn't considered Calc Staking, unlike speed or DC, the size of a character is the same in most of cases... at least is SU...

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Bascially it's really simple, Jirachi created a fake Kyogre which has a PE (stored energy) of 7.18 teratons and was deystoyed by a total of 12 pokemon, you divide 7.18 teratons by 12 and get 598.3 Gigatons or High 6-C for yeach Pokemon that helped

 

[WeeklyBattles]

High 6-C Pichu...

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

@Peter

I think its based off the Kyogres Kinetic Energy giving off 300+ Gigatons wort of KE. If we divide by 9, then its still a solid Island feat for everyone.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

^Not really, if you check the scan, the two pichu's and pikachu all used volt tackle and combined into one huge one and rammed right into him

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The math you just did would give Pichu a High 6-C rating based on the two Pikachus, the Pichu, and the 9 starters all contributing

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

@Peter
I think its based off the Kyogres Kinetic Energy giving off 300+ Gigatons wort of KE. If we divide by 9, then its still a solid Island feat for everyone.

You sure?

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Oh my bad I was thinking of something else.

Yeah High 6-C for everyone who scales sounds about right then.

 

[Cropfist]

This seems like a huge outlier regardless, the Pokemon it scales to have been matched by far weaker Pokemon.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

If you noticed, these are being used by the protagonist of their respective series, so these are top of the line starters regardless.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Again, HIGH 6-C PICHU

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

This seems like a huge outlier regardless, the Pokemon it scales to have been matched by far weaker Pokemon.

This is a manga feat, unlike the anime which is filled to the brim with outliers and PIS, the Manga is actually consistent with it's self

and note this was done by using their Types strongest attacks: Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant etc....

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

What Peter said. The manga is incredibly consistent. For example, Charizard, who would wreck Pikachu by every standard, did exactly that. The anime would imply that they were sort of equals.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Again, HIGH 6-C PICHU

Did every Pokemon contribute equally though? I mean I can buy every Starter contributing equally but what about the others?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I believe that the Pikachus contributing would be equivalent as Trunks' contribution in taking down Broly. Doesn't scale and only there to give the extra push.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No idea, but I highly doubt Pichu did as much as the Pikcahu did, so we cant scale it, possibly not the Pikachu either, just the starters...

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I believe that the Pikachus contributing would be equivalent as Trunks' contribution in taking down Broly. Doesn't scale and only there to give the extra push.

Pretty much, they just needed the little extra push

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

As awesome as High 6-C Pichu would be, I agree with you guys. As for the starters who scale, how should we rate their profiles? Using Charizard as an example

Attack Potency: At least Town level | At least Town level, likely higher | Large Island level+

Key: Base (Games) | Mega Evolution (Games) | Blue's Charizard (Manga)

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

As awesome as High 6-C Pichu would be, I agree with you guys. As for the starters who scale, how should we rate their profiles? Using Charizard as an example
Attack Potency: At least Town level | At least Town level, likely higher | Large Island level+

Key: Base (Games) | Mega Evolution (Games) | Blue's Charizard (Manga)

Seems fine

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

No need for the tabber. Put likely after his stats instead. Town, likely Large Island base, at least town, likely at least large island mega. For the other starters, unknown, likely large island.

 

[Cropfist]

I agree with the tabber for Charizard's stats.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I dunno about that @Cal, since the Charizard that did the feat seemed to be Blue's Charizard. Nothing in the game lore seems to imply that Charizard is High 6-C anyway.

 

[Antoniofer]

mmm... looking the image and scaling, Kyogre doesn't seems to be 44 meters tall, also, did the calculer divide the result by 2 due height differencial?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

mmm... looking the image and scaling, Kyogre doesn't seems to be 44 meters tall, also, did the calculer divide the result by 2 due height differencial?

Were you getting divided by 2 from? i'm not seeing that in the calc at all

 

[Antoniofer]

^Due that NF isn't showing the images (at least for me), can't see how 's the scaling is going on.

The multiplier per 0.5 is due that the mass center in the Kyogre's center (redundant), could be different, but I would need to use a integral but no one use that and I'm to old for use it.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

The best is to add a key for manga version


As was discussed in the Pokemon Thread to bring the profile back, is important to clarify which version is being used (That also means: Pikachu "Building level" Durability has a justification from the anime, when the calc for said Durability feat is on Lucario profile with a High 7-C Result)


So Pikachu should 3 keys (8-C for Games, High 7-C for anime, High 6-C for Manga)


As well as Lucario since his feat is from the anime

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

I can agree for the starters, I will say that much.

However, I would regard Pichu as a heavy outlier lol. Or at least that it didn't cause a significant effect.