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Accelerator Vs. Mukuro Rokudo
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How does Mukuro's reality warp works?
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He can make illusions realEmperorDoom25 said:
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Can his illusions bypass reflection?
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Nope
It's not like his illusions will get him past the shield
It's not like his illusions will get him past the shield
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@Schnee one
Thanks, so it looks like Mukuro has no way to bypass reflection but Mukuro does have low-godly Regenerationn, although limited. How does that work?
Since this is pre-headshot Accel he doesn't have anyway to negate the regenation, well neither does any version of Accel really, since it goes up to high. But it does say limited so it depends on the limited part.
Thanks, so it looks like Mukuro has no way to bypass reflection but Mukuro does have low-godly Regenerationn, although limited. How does that work?
Since this is pre-headshot Accel he doesn't have anyway to negate the regenation, well neither does any version of Accel really, since it goes up to high. But it does say limited so it depends on the limited part.
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"Questionable" Isn't enough to bypass the vector shield alone otherwise he would have gotten absolutely wrecked by Kakine.
AoE still needs to travel, travel has vectors
AoE still needs to travel, travel has vectors
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So the way I understand it. If Accel figures out that Mukuro is just an illusion and actually finds the real Mukuro and deals with him, then it's a win for Accel. However if Accel doesn't realize it's an illusion then it's inconclusive as Mukuro has no way to bypass reflection and Accel has no way to deal with Mukuro Regenerationn.
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Accelerator is more then smart enough to figure out it is an illusion after, and this is a highball, an hour or so of fighting
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True, he is a genius after all. So yeah I'm going to say Accel takes this then.
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Worth noting that Accel stomps if Mukuro doesn't have a win con (He doesn't)
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I wonder if this would have been a bit more fair if Post-headshot Accel was used instead?
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Maybe, Low Godly helps with the AP gap
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@Schnee
I see, by that logic you may be right.
The problem is that KHR illusions don't follow logic at all. Given how they work, influencing the world around them so heavily. I honestly don't see how reflection would even be possible.
I mean, the illusion itself doesn't even have to reach accel to affect him.
In order to not be affected by it, he'd pretty much have to shut down all of his senses (Because the illusions effect all of the senses)
I see, by that logic you may be right.
The problem is that KHR illusions don't follow logic at all. Given how they work, influencing the world around them so heavily. I honestly don't see how reflection would even be possible.
I mean, the illusion itself doesn't even have to reach accel to affect him.
In order to not be affected by it, he'd pretty much have to shut down all of his senses (Because the illusions effect all of the senses)
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The illusions influence the world around them they become real correct?
If so, yes, they clearly have vectors, influencing the world around them does not in any way mean they do not have motion or direction.
His Choker can take care of that for him just fine.
If so, yes, they clearly have vectors, influencing the world around them does not in any way mean they do not have motion or direction.
His Choker can take care of that for him just fine.
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Not really what I was reffering to Schnee.
I was just talking about regular illusions, not mist flame ones.
Regular illusions aren't fully tangible but still indirectly affect the world around them (Case in point: Everyone feeling the cold from Chrome's illusion, even going as far as seeing the water vapor of their breath, despite the fact that she wasn't target them)
I was just talking about regular illusions, not mist flame ones.
Regular illusions aren't fully tangible but still indirectly affect the world around them (Case in point: Everyone feeling the cold from Chrome's illusion, even going as far as seeing the water vapor of their breath, despite the fact that she wasn't target them)
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Them being slightly tangible are enough for them to have vectors.
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Isn't this a stomp if there is no way around the Vector Shield?
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YesArgoneedsmorelove said:
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Its more of an inconclusive since Accel cant bypass Low Godly
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It's Limited Low Godly though
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Yeah, but Accel doesnt know where Mukuro's real body is
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So he finds it eventually.
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He would need to know that he is fighting a fake version of Mukuro, which he doesnt
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So he figures it out
As I said already
Accelerator is a super genius that understands what vectors he is manipulating, so he figures it out.
As I said already
Accelerator is a super genius that understands what vectors he is manipulating, so he figures it out.
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Accelerator
Vector Shield that cannot be broken by Mukoro
Genius
Mukoro
Illusions that can be countered by Accelerator
Mukuro having a real body somewhere that just requires Accel to find it
This is looking like quite a stomp to me.
Vector Shield that cannot be broken by Mukoro
Genius
Mukoro
Illusions that can be countered by Accelerator
Mukuro having a real body somewhere that just requires Accel to find it
This is looking like quite a stomp to me.
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Yeah, its a mismatch
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They affect Acceleratir but they still have a vector so they can't beat his shield
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If they affect him than they have a vector. Even if it is indireclty things still have vectors. Unless it was stated to have no vectors it has vectors.
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I just think this should be closed for being a Stomp for Accelerator and a Mismatch.
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They affect his senses because they appear to be normal like any other thing he would sense.
So basically, he'd need to shut off all of his senses to completely negate its affects.
Because the illusion appears like any other object in the world, which is why people who aren't directly targeted by them can still see them.
So basically, he'd need to shut off all of his senses to completely negate its affects.
Because the illusion appears like any other object in the world, which is why people who aren't directly targeted by them can still see them.
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