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All For One vs No Name Hassan

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What's stopping All for One from kinda just looking over, saying "eh" and oblitherating her with air propulsion?
 
.... I feel as though Assassin doesn't have the Hax for this considering such a response.
 
As do I

IDK maybe she could sing then run up and give him a kiss / tap his head while he's disorientated.
 
Welp

We should probably at least let Iapitus respond before we Hakai.
 
Alright, well how about we just ignore AP for a second. All for One doesn't seem to have a counter to Cyber Phantasy and Delusional Heartbeat, both of which seem to ignore Durability.
 
because in character One For All messes around a bit, and doesn't go for the one shot usually. Where as Hassan usually goes straight for the one shot hax spam, her Cursed Arm ability is also much longer range than the original. Also, her abilities are quicker on the draw than his, even with speed equalised, just by their nature.

On top of that, she has presence concealment; which essentially guaranties her the first hit since he won't be able to detect her until she begins her attack
 
It doesn't matter if he "doesn't go for the one shot usually"

He's many many times stronger than her. Tapping her too hard would kill her.
 
ApiesDeathbyLazors said:
Doesn't All for One "see" with infrared? Can she hide from that?
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yes, this isn't meerly invisibility, this is (basically as the name says) prevents people from detecting that you are there. At higher levels, you can be touching the person and they may not feel you, or notice you
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
because in character All For One messes around a bit, and doesn't go for the one shot usually.
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Firstly, fixed it for ya

Secondly... Not really. He kinda seems like the "get it done" sort of dude, considering he immediately just blasted best jeanest and the other heroes. He's more just kinda casual about it, like how he's just kinda "Spring Body+Strength X3 (and whatever else, can't remember), I like this combination."

That said, the combination was more then capable of blasting back All-Might and the previously mentioned hero squad.
 
DMUA said:
Firstly, fixed it for ya

Secondly... Not really. He kinda seems like the "get it done" sort of dude, considering he immediately just blasted best jeanest and the other heroes. He's more just kinda casual about it, like how he's just kinda "Spring Body+Strength X3 (and whatever else, can't remember), I like this combination."

That said, the combination was more then capable of blasting back All-Might and the previously mentioned hero squad.
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Perhaps I miss read him then, he didn't seem in any rush to get rid of Jeanist

Tho, he probably won't be able to blast her away so easily with her presence concealmet
 
ApiesDeathbyLazors said:
So is this a hax stomp? Cause if not I'm voting for the pretty girl that make you head explode, if ya know what I mean. ;)
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i don't think its a stomp, I mean if he manages to land one hit he one shots
 
A weakness of the Hassan's presence concealment is that the moment she begins an attack, her presence is revealed. So I don't see why he couldn't really just sort of... elbow her or something in response to having an unknown enemy behind her? His senses are definitely not dulled, so someone trying to grab your head should be pretty easy to detect.

And even then, I am almost certain that if a target disappeared from his view, it's very much in-character for him to just fly into the air and nuke the area like he did in his very first showing at the Noumu warehouse. Plus, All for One sort of prefers to stay in the sky unless fighting someone like All Might (Who is able to push him back and even send him flying at some points btw). All for One won't just stand there as he knows he's fighting someone, he just doesn't know who or what. This would actually make him even more paranoid as he would have no idea what her "quirk" is and would be more cautious as a result.

For the argument that he wasn't in a rush to finish off Jeanist, well, he didn't need to be in a rush. Jeanist was as good as dead and he was determining if he wants his quirk or not (And decided not, which he then off'd him). Did you guys forget his very first move prior? like, nuking the entire warehouse?
 
How good is presence conceal? Cause All For One has this:

Search: All For One stole this Quirk from Ragdoll. With this Quirk, All For One can observe and monitor up to 100 people at a time, including their location and weak points.
 
Well, considering it's fairly in-character for him to just nuke the place (He actually has a crap ton of Collateral Damage feats and is utterly non chalant about it), I highly doubt it matters. But I assume that's bypassed as the ability explicitly says she cannot be detected normally until the moment of attack. Whether you consider "Normal" to apply to quirks is up to you.
 
She doesn't just vanish

She's in PC to begin with, so he wouldn't even know she's there before she attacks.

Also, the thing about PC dropping is very subjective as to when it actually begins dropping, and how much time the enemy has to react.
 
"She doesn't just vanish

She's in PC to begin with, so he wouldn't even know she's there before she attacks."

Doesn't answer the question. What's "Normal Detection"? Does it apply to quirks? what's the extent it's shown to hide her from? How would she reach AFO when his default position (When not fighting All Might. I have to stress this) is levitating in the sky? How could she survive if AFO just decides to nuke the place like he did at the Warehouse against fodder heroes that aren't even a threat to him?
 
Well Servants can passively sense each other when they get close by, and they can't sense things through presence concealment. And even when they are actively looking for the enemy, it's still difficult to sense them.

She could jump to reach him. Servants can jump very high.

Also, if he punches her or elbows her when PC drops, it's inconclusive, as she'd lethally poison him on touch, even if she does get splattered.

Why would he nuke the place if he doesn't even know she's there thanks to passive PC?
 
"Why would he nuke the place if he doesn't even know she's there thanks to passive PC?"

I'm pretty sure SBA stipulates that he KNOWS there's a battle going on. He just doesn't know where she is or how her powers work, which I'm pretty sure it isn't OOC for him to just nuke the area just to be safe if he couldn't detect her. Again, nuked fodder Heroes that are of absolutely no threat to him.
 
He knows he needs to kill someone.

He doesn't know they are there already if they have passive invisibility though.

Nuked fodder heroes who he knew were there though
 
All for One had no problem blasting a hole through best jeanist. I'm pretty sure he'd be willing to do the same thing here. My vote goes to All for One via AP advantage.
 
A battle has started. He cannot detect or trace where the hell his enemy is. Logical conclusion; Their quirk is invisibility. Like, perfect. Not even Scan can pin them down. Therefore, if you can't find them to destroy them normally, destroy everything around.

He's displayed his willingness to just nuke and destroy the area, hell I can argue his Air Cannon against All Might is just a focused version of a Nuke. As it did, indeed, destroy a large area.
 
Steve Rogers1 said:
All for One had no problem blasting a hole through best jeanist. I'm pretty sure he'd be willing to do the same thing here. My vote goes to All for One via AP advantage.
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AP advantage isn't that great a reason considering her hax
 
@Akreious

How does he know a battle has started? As far as he knows, he just needs to kill this girl somewhere.

Also, he might be interested in stealing her quirk. But if he puts his hand on her to steal her "quirk" he dies to poison.
 
All For One via Akreious' reasons. From the profile I think he's smart enough to deduce he's not able to find her and then just nuke the area
 
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