I think the logic itself is fine. DB characters have shown considerable more lower LS feats when It comes to training. The Anti-feats are very much a problem.
I see where you're coming from and I don't mean to offend when I say this but, with those examples (most recently coming from the Deltarune thread) there were good arguments back and forth.
lmfao I've heard about how terrible the flash writing is in terms of consistency. powerscaling that verse must be a headache
They think a billion joules is a megaton and that mach 7 is enough to rapidly circle the earth
You just had to bring up the Elephant in the room
You meant to say Undertale here, isn't? DR had total of two controversial CRTs in recent times (and only in one of them staff votes were decisive).
Did you put your calc in calc revision https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...sion,_using_an_alternate_method_(Dragon_Ball) ?
I don't think we use multipliers for LS anyway, so
Yeah, and site not using them for LS was used as argument for not using them for combat speedI don't think we use multipliers for LS anyway, so
Base Miniku stopping the Megath Child's hand in its track and pushing it back, even forcing the Child to exert effort to overpower him would probably get some good results considering, in comparison to the Megath, Miniku and co are shorter than their dog's equivalent of a single poil and are around the size of ticks.
Unironically if downgrades went through, could be good feat.
It's a Toei thing so it ain't getting touched by the downgrade.
Forgot that it was GT
Don't forget we see fodder great apes existing fine in Planet Vegeta
Think in canon too, the evil Saiyans that fought Yamoshi were also Great Apes.
Do you think Goku physically pushed the planet? Like, with his bare hands? You think the body was a planet?
Just to clarify, ignoring how Yamoshi and the original Super Saiyan God, who may or may not have even existed, are separate characters, Yamoshi is an ancient Saiyan from Planet Sadala, and its gravitational acceleration is currently unknown.
The aura visually indicates Goku is currently amplifying his physical strength beyond his current limits through Ki. Because he can amplify his physical strength beyond his current limits through Ki, as stated by Toriyama and by various official supplementary sources. They are not passively increasing their physical abilities with Ki, they have to make an effort to concentrate the Ki throughout their body.
Base Miniku stopping the Megath Child's hand in its track and pushing it back, even forcing the Child to exert effort to overpower him would probably get some good results considering, in comparison to the Megath, Miniku and co are shorter than their dog's equivalent of a single poil and are around the size of ticks.
I'm referring to this.
Is this like a Dub only line, or a retcon, or?
Yeah Goku without Ki is what, 9-B? Though we don't list how strong the characters are without empowering themselves with Ki, neither do most of the anti-feats apply to their no-ki selfs (Goku/Piccolo are using a bunch of Ki while they're fighting clearly, same with Gravity Training) so I don't see how this is relevant?
Both? In the original version of the film version, Shenron does speak of the original Super Saiyan God, but he establishes the Super Saiyan God as having originated from Planet Vegeta; and the character of Yamoshi was only established by Toriyama years later, and he lived "before Planet Vegeta was the Saiyans's planet". Moreover, though, the legend of the Super Saiyan God and the story of Yamoshi being nearly identical does suggest the original Super Saiyan God was entirely fictional, being a mythologization of the real life history of the Sadala civil war and the original Super Saiyan, Yamoshi.
No? Throughout the series, in his normal form, he has:
Neat.
I don't think those are cases of Ki amplifying a character beyond their normal power so much as the characters simply holding back, with "flaring up their Ki" just being them revealing their actual full power. Like in the Burter and Jeice example, Goku's baseline power isn't 5,000, it's 80,000. He's just suppressing his power to conserve energy, as Vegeta says (It doesn't look like he's suppressing it in terms of speed either, cause if he was really operating at 5,000 he'd be the one getting blitzed not the other way around). The DKP example is pretty explicit with that "Since my life shortens whenever I fight at full power... I prefer not to, when I can avoid it."
I don't think it's just that? Otherwise how did Yajirobe get a PL of 970 despite not even being able to throw a Ki blast lol
who's "they"?
I don't think anyone has been scold for that before, hell Fuji did so like, 12 times in a row.
The translator sometimes fails, I mean someone got scolded by staff
I think someone seriously pissed off the calc guy, honestly. But what scares me the most is how many people are agreeing with these downgrades: Bleach fans, JoJo fans, and a bunch of random people. These guys are mass downgrading characters just to test how far our patience can go.
By training. What? The size and power of your Ki can grow without you being capable of manipulating the energy. Your Ki grows the most when you are training your mental facilities and honing your energy specifically, but your Ki also naturally develops alongside your body, due to a culmination of a number of different factors (e.g., genki, shōki, life force, willpower, etc.). Ki is the life energy of the body, after all.
The consequences of being the most influential and popular anime/manga in history, I suppose.
I feel bad for the DMC and GoW fans getting hit with so many mass downgrades from Fuji. His hatred was really aimed at those two franchises
No way, our verse has gone back to the golden age, where we had downgrades every day, when one closed there was another, one after the other, and what was worse was that it was very funny.
Her. And like come on, one of the things Fuji removed from GoW was some character having life manip... For getting pregnant...I feel bad for the DMC and GoW fans getting hit with so many mass downgrades from Fuji. His hatred was really aimed at those two franchises
Greek mythology, bro.
Or maybe they just agree with the arguments? Don't instigate a "My Fandom vs Their Fandom" mentality dude, we are not in 2016
