Tbh that was more of a "Power of Friendship" moment than Vegeta´s actual power, also, Goku needed UI to even harm Jiren
a badly beaten goku who was lying down and can't even walk suddenly had enough energy to go blue just by getting a beaten up vegeta energy I was never implying it was enough to beat jiren ,I don't think it was a power of friendship movement but more so vegeta giving his everything to goku
He got motivated to fight Jiren from seeing Vegeta being eliminated, in the same way he did against the Pretty Black Hole (In relation to his getting motivated)
This was more of a "SSB was useless in this fight tbh" comment not necessarily associated to your comment
Agree to disagree
Bio-Broly doesn't count if that's what you mean.
Pikkon onetapped SP Cell while he had weights on, and while restricting his power.
Why not? He is an identical regeneration of the original Broly.
The point was that Koyama's claims of Broly being the strongest are bogus, not that Broly was less powerful than Cell.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Second Coming Gohan is the same as Buu Saga Gohan Toei, he stopped training, it's just that by his rematch with Broly he had Super Saiyan 2 which he didn't have in the fight 7 years ago.
At best, i think you could get an "Anime only" tabber for Toei Ki´s manipulation on the main Ki manipulation page
Which ones? I imagine it's probably from the specials/movies, but still
I know that’s how the continuity shakes out, (and that when we count the non-canon films we overlook their contradictory natures), but given this is unrelated to on-site powerscaling: Gohan specifically states he has powered up considerably since his fight in the previous Broly film. Specifically implying he trained in the 7 year gap, which then implies he expected his Base form to do significant damage on Broly (based on the strength/information he had on him) 7 years ago. Allegedly, Koyama backs this up in a tweet, (saying that due to Production Time they hadn’t accounted for the narrative change on Gohan’s strength), but I’ve never found a source for this—Ever.
Frieza's multi-star feat, broly and probably garlic jr. Buu was also stated to be capable of destroying galaxies
He was able to tank a full beating from Broly so he should scale to him (or at least have an "at most" rating for that)
It seems good
I feel totally fine with it. It's implied several times that SSJ Gohan > SSJ Goku, and he even thinks Cell MUST be holding back more because of the comparison in power he drew between himself and Cell. And while Cell ADMITTEDLY didn't use his full power until he saw SSJ2, it's heavily implied that the power he used against SSJ Goku was not insignificant, and even FURTHER, Cell implies if Goku had a Senzu Goku could have won. It's even more obvious to me given that Goku gave Cell a Bean specifically to prevent Cell from rage quitting because he felt SSJ Gohan was enough to do enough pressure to say "**** this I'm out," before Gohan actually unleashed his power.
But that's not solar system level (and Buu's bits is post Cell, I also think it's not necessarily prural)
I understand Broly, I just don't believe in his scaling, because from the beginning he seemed superior to everyone, when he was starting out small (he defeats Vegeta with one blow) Broly wasn't taking him seriously, he probably wasn't using his full power
I support it
The great thing is that we can allow gag feats for the series, since it's literally a comedic parody.
Yeah it's above it? Also Frieza destroying planet vegeta in the anime was calced at large star with everyone scaling to solar system with later multipliers
I wish
I might be confusing myself, what is the multi-stellar feat?
but you don't have multipliers (or at least not many)
The toei only one where he destroys innumerable stars
He made a big downgrade thread for sonic the hedgehog but at best the only thing that happened were abilities getting new justifications, but nothing too big. I'm fairly certain he made a dbh downgrade thread like last year but everything was rejected too.
In what chapter does it happen?
Not chapter it's in the original anime
If the feat doesn't exist in the Abriged continuity, why even mention it?
it does iicr
