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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Nullflowerblush said:
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Idk which one you're using so I'll do a diff tier list format.

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What do you guys think of DBS’s villains?

I know there’s one of them who’s pure evil, aka zamasu

Who else is pure evil in DBS? Or at least close to it


Also did beerus eventually mellow out a bit?
 
Artorimachi_Meteoraft said:
What do you guys think of DBS’s villains?

I know there’s one of them who’s pure evil, aka zamasu

Who else is pure evil in DBS? Or at least close to it
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Moro and maybe Elec, really. Beerus is just a natural disaster, Frieza is a Z a villain in Super, Hit is just a guy on a job, (skipping Zamasu), Jiren is a full on superhero, (skipping Moro), Granolah was just misguided,Gas was just being used as a tool, and Cell Max is just a feral monster, not evil.
 
RedReaper616 said:
Moro and maybe Elec, really. Beerus is just a natural disaster, Frieza is a Z a villain in Super, Hit is just a guy on a job, (skipping Zamasu), Jiren is a full on superhero, (skipping Moro), Granolah was just misguided,Gas was just being used as a tool, and Cell Max is just a feral monster, not evil.
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Why did elec do?

Also ngl frieza is definitely I’d say pure evil guy has regularly committed genocide on multiple occasions
 
Quantu said:
Nah, Frieza is a misunderstood anti-hero.
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Are you serious?

I mean he did cause saiyan genocide.

Also yeah it may not be canon but he definitely is very evil because iirc there are others of his kind in games and extended series that see him as giving their race a bad name.
 
Artorimachi_Meteoraft said:
Are you serious?

I mean he did cause saiyan genocide.

Also yeah it may not be canon but he definitely is very evil because iirc there are others of his kind in games and extended series that see him as giving their race a bad name.
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I think he was being sarcastic.
 
Huesito88 said:
But is he racist?
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😭

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Alexander said:
I still don't like the hypertime thing
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As you should. It's essentially a fan theory lacking in any direct or concrete evidence that's using Dragon Ball's lack of context and world-building to create ideas that were never even implied in canon and stating them as the "likely" true nature of DB's cosmology. But I wouldn't bother arguing about it.
 
RinneItachi said:
As you should. It's a silly fan theory lacking in any direct or concrete evidence that's essentially using Dragon Ball's lack of context and world-building to create ideas that were never even implied in canon and stating them as the "likely" true nature of DB's cosmology. But I wouldn't bother arguing about it.
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Then you won't like it when "someone" will go and make another hyper timeline update again in 4 more months or so
 
Huesito88 said:
Then you won't like it when "someone" will go and make another hyper timeline update again in 4 more months or so
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Wrong. I won't care because I haven't participated in actual wiki changes for years. I just come for general discussion threads and the occasional versus battle thread. Sincerely speaking I rarely care what the actual pages say very much. But the hypertimeline thing is still silly.
 
RinneItachi said:
As you should. It's essentially a fan theory lacking in any direct or concrete evidence that's using Dragon Ball's lack of context and world-building to create ideas that were never even implied in canon and stating them as the "likely" true nature of DB's cosmology. But I wouldn't bother arguing about it.
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you know people say the same about dimensional tiering and i cant tell you how dead wrong they really are most of the time. it's really just "i don't understand it so therefore its wrong". not saying thats you, btw
 
RinneItachi said:
As you should. It's essentially a fan theory lacking in any direct or concrete evidence that's using Dragon Ball's lack of context and world-building to create ideas that were never even implied in canon and stating them as the "likely" true nature of DB's cosmology. But I wouldn't bother arguing about it.
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Lack of world building is straight up dumb ngl especially since is it’s DB every upgrade will be controversial o matter how blunt or well explained it is. But that’s the nature of powerscaling I guess.
 
ChoursDropoff said:
Lack of world building is straight up dumb ngl especially since is it’s DB every upgrade will be controversial o matter how blunt or well explained it is. But that’s the nature of powerscaling I guess.
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What does this even mean.

There is no evidence of a hyper-timeline concept in the Dragon Ball cosmology and the entire notion of it is derived from fringe wacky speculation based on what we DO know about the cosmology (mixed with tiering system and theoretical physics principles that are accepted on the wiki) and basically attempting to add context to it to justify the end result, in summary. It's something I'd expect a 1.7k subscriber Dragon Ball powerscaler with an AI voice to claim for shock value to get clicks, so I was pretty surprised to see it being applied to Vs. Battles Wiki but I guess we take anything these days if the argument sounds fancy or something. The fing "Power>Hax" argument unironically has MORE credibility and substance to it than the hyper-timeline argument which has not a single, tiny piece of evidence to support it. It is a literal theory if not hypothetical that is being accepted as a fact and a huge miscontextualization of actual known knowledge about the DB verse.

But I digress cause talking about it isn't worth my time tbh but enjoy it if you do.
 
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RinneItachi said:
What does this even mean.

There is no evidence of a hyper-timeline concept in the Dragon Ball cosmology and the entire notion of it is derived from fringe wacky speculation based on what we DO know about the cosmology (mixed with tiering system and theoretical physics principles that are accepted on the wiki) and basically attempting to add context to it to justify the end result, in summary. It's something I'd expect a 1.7k subscriber Dragon Ball powerscaler with an AI voice to claim for shock value to get clicks, so I was pretty surprised to see it being applied to Vs. Battles Wiki but I guess we take anything these days if the argument sounds fancy or something. The fing "Power>Hax" argument unironically has MORE credibility and substance to it than the hyper-timeline argument which has not a single, tiny piece of evidence to support it. It is a literal theory if not hypothetical that is being accepted as a fact and a huge miscontextualization of actual known knowledge about the DB verse.

But I digress cause talking about it isn't worth my time tbh but enjoy it if you do.
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yeah, you don't understand anything about it then. DB hypertimeline is possibly one of the most straightforward and simplest examples of higher time on the wiki

you could make this exact arguments all the way for tier 2 to tier 5 as well believe it or not, thats how flawed it is
 
Guys where is my Manga Gohan profile 😃

Also Manga Goten and Trunks profile (maybe a team profile for them as the great saiyaman x1 and x2)
 
The only way is to accept the facts, DB's hyper timeline is one of vsbtles' greatest examples of how it makes total sense to be low 1-C (it is used for several examples in other verses)

This is the first work with such a feat of fitting so well with the hyper-timeline, DB was born to be low 1-C.
 
Ryzen7900X said:
yeah, you don't understand anything about it then. DB hypertimeline is possibly one of the most straightforward and simplest examples of higher time on the wiki

you could make this exact arguments all the way for tier 2 to tier 5 as well believe it or not, thats how flawed it is
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Or more like the greatest example of bias and fans.
Come on, there was no statements of hypertimelines in Dragón Ball ever
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
The only way is to accept the facts, DB's hyper timeline is one of vsbtles' greatest examples of how it makes total sense to be low 1-C (it is used for several examples in other verses)

This is the first work with such a feat of fitting so well with the hyper-timeline, DB was born to be low 1-C.
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actually is the worst example because hypertime is a concept of DC! (and they put Dc in low 1-C)
 
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