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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Yajirobe being nerfed in the patches is the biggest different time period dissonance I felt in a while.

He's ripped straight out of BT3, literally same moveset and all BT3 didn't have patches so what we got stayed that way, I think he was decent but not remotely top tier (cause he couldn't fly), but I guess the changes SZ did to non-fliers and the different time period makes him too OP for the modern audience or something.
 
BlastX said:
Yajirobe being nerfed in the patches is the biggest different time period dissonance I felt in a while.

He's ripped straight out of BT3, literally same moveset and all BT3 didn't have patches so what we got stayed that way, I think he was decent but not remotely top tier (cause he couldn't fly), but I guess the changes SZ did to non-fliers and the different time period makes him too OP for the modern audience or something.
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skill issue
 
BlastX said:
Yajirobe being nerfed in the patches is the biggest different time period dissonance I felt in a while.

He's ripped straight out of BT3, literally same moveset and all BT3 didn't have patches so what we got stayed that way, I think he was decent but not remotely top tier (cause he couldn't fly), but I guess the changes SZ did to non-fliers and the different time period makes him too OP for the modern audience or something.
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BT3 didn't have an online ranked mode where you had to form teams with DP costs in mind. SZ ranked is basically built around a stall meta via abusing Afterimage Strike and using the stall king Yajirobe to get the health advantage. Meanwhile in BT3 the comp meta is built around 3v3 matches where timing out isn't a valid strategy due to the timer being usually disabled or just so long nobody can realistically do it.

If SZ had a longer or nonexistent timer for DP Battle then Yajirobe would be considered mediocre or even outright trash.
 
CryoTheMayo said:
BT3 didn't have an online ranked mode where you had to form teams with DP costs in mind. SZ ranked is basically built around a stall meta via abusing Afterimage Strike and using the stall king Yajirobe to get the health advantage. Meanwhile in BT3 the comp meta is built around 3v3 matches where timing out isn't a valid strategy due to the timer being usually disabled or just so long nobody can realistically do it.

If SZ had a longer or nonexistent timer for DP Battle then Yajirobe would be considered mediocre or even outright trash.
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Yeah I figured someone was gonna correct me or that I was speaking out of my ass.

Thanks for explaining (and I'm bring sincere about it).
 
Question, does Cell know about Beerus and the Kaioshin? He claimed to possess all of Frieza's memories (although that might be anime only)
 
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Battle of Gods is according to its website, but Resurrection F isn’t. So it still doesn’t matter.
Vizer04 said:
Another question, is Cell's soul inside a cocoon in the otherworld like Frieza's was?
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In the Context of the Super canon, no idea. Potentially. We simply don’t know.
 
Omegabronic said:
is that.....cannon to the Toei Timeline?
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According to its own website and the film guide, yeah. It’s specifically stated to take place between the period between the Buu Saga and GT. (This is actually referenced in other material sometimes. For example, in XV2, GT Goku outright states “It’s been a long time since I’ve seen you, Beerus!”)

The issue is Akira later said he wrote BoG as if he was writing for the Original Manga, so it’s essentially Toriyama’s intent (to be Manga Canon) versus official statement made by the ones who own the film and had a lot of stuff worked out before Toriyama jumped in last minute to remake stuff behind the scenes.

Hence why I think we ignore it, especially since it’s then pretty clearly re-adapted by Toei and Toyo to align with the Manga-Canon Continuation Vision. Though, this technically isn’t the film proper, and given they have their own uniquely canon iteration, accepting it would not cause issues.

As far as I know.
 
RedReaper616 said:
According to its own website and the film guide, yeah. It’s specifically stated to take place between the period between the Buu Saga and GT. (This is actually referenced in other material sometimes. For example, in XV2, GT Goku outright states “It’s been a long time since I’ve seen you, Beerus!”)

The issue is Akira later said he wrote BoG as if he was writing for the Original Manga, so it’s essentially Toriyama’s intent (to be Manga Canon) versus official statement made by the ones who own the film and had a lot of stuff worked out before Toriyama jumped in last minute to remake stuff behind the scenes.

Hence why I think we ignore it, especially since it’s then pretty clearly re-adapted by Toei and Toyo to align with the Manga-Canon Continuation Vision. Though, this technically isn’t the film proper, and given they have their own uniquely canon iteration, accepting it would not cause issues.

As far as I know.
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huh, does BoG, the movie version, have any statements about Beerus? aka.....does it have anything worth for the scalling?
 
RedReaper616 said:
Not that I know of, honestly. I may have to rewatch the film.
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and look at interviews of it as well.....dunno if Beerus has a "can destroy the universe" statement somewhere, or if Goku still has the "we godamn can't beat this purple godly garfield with Vegito AAAAAAAHHHH" statement like in the anime
 
Omegabronic said:
and look at interviews of it as well.....dunno if Beerus has a "can destroy the universe" statement somewhere, or if Goku still has the "we godamn can't beat this purple godly garfield with Vegito AAAAAAAHHHH" statement like in the anime
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Yeah, Goku still doubts fusion would be enough in the movie. IIRC, Beerus had a statement of wiping out galaxies in an instant but that's about it.
 
Omegabronic said:
and look at interviews of it as well.....dunno if Beerus has a "can destroy the universe" statement somewhere, or if Goku still has the "we godamn can't beat this purple godly garfield with Vegito AAAAAAAHHHH" statement like in the anime
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That statement is in the movie, yes.
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In the Dragon Ball movie Battle of Gods, from what i remember, there are quotes about Beerus destroying a solar system and a galaxy according to Whis.
 
Canonically, the Universe Survival Arc took place in the year 780. Therefore, either the Grand Priest lied about the Universes with low mortal level being erased or something happened in the other timelines that prevented this from happening (since Trunks timeline continued to exist after year 780 despite the fact that the ToP never ocurred on this timeline)
 
Vizer04 said:
Canonically, the Universe Survival Arc took place in the year 780. Therefore, either the Grand Priest lied about the Universes with low mortal level being erased or something happened in the other timelines that prevented this from happening (since Trunks timeline continued to exist after year 780 despite the fact that the ToP never ocurred on this timeline)
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Presumably, the fact two Zenos existed to perpetuate the conversation hastened that topic’s conclusion. We see that the GP often interrupts or acts to lead the Zeno’s decisions. Could just be it’s much harder with two of ‘em.
 
Tipper17 said:
i'm a firm believer that tori saw how unimpressive he made beerus in the movie and decided to fix that years later
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i vaguely remember that one of the reasons why the BOG movie wasn't so destructive was that their was an earthquake in Japan and he didn't want to show that since it would be in bad taste

or maybe im misremembering it but i do recall a statement like that :unsure:
 
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