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3-A DB at max let's go! Btw it was stated in Daizenshu that power levels can't be measured after Frieza arc1-A Dragon Ball makes no sense whatsoever when the series heavily relies on physical multipliers and measurable tiers of power.
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3-A DB at max let's go! Btw it was stated in Daizenshu that power levels can't be measured after Frieza arc1-A Dragon Ball makes no sense whatsoever when the series heavily relies on physical multipliers and measurable tiers of power.
"From the following statements and showings, we can see that Afterlife not just lacks time and space, it transcends it and exceed dimensionality through a qualitative superiority over mortal world, which gives it Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 3) and tier 1-A"Youve written about 50 dozen things but no matter how much I look I cant find a single decent 1-A argument there
If it's undeniable 5D by your words, then why it's still not?It's undeniable that the afterlife is Low 1-C 5-D. We need to address that first
Because it isn’tIf it's undeniable 5D by your words, then why it's still not?
VibeIf it's undeniable 5D by your words, then why it's still not?
It doesn't lack time or space otherwise and just being "beyond human comprehension" is just hyperbole and you take it at highest possible interpretation. I'm genuinely baffled how do you even reach this, did you watch drip sauce or someo other DB scaler?Lack of time and space with qualitive superiority? Also what arguments that were?
Why it doesn't? Where scans not right and where?It doesn't lack time or space otherwise
Why do you guys always miss the point? I base this on the shockwave momentjust being "beyond human comprehension" is just hyperbole and you take it at highest possible interpretation.
No, I came to it by myselfdid you watch drip sauce or someo other DB scaler?
I knew I said I was gonna end the debate. But this is too funnyLook at a piece of paper, is it flat?
Bro what you have been doing is arguing endlessly here despite other's calling out problems for 1-A, I don't think discussion works like that.Why it doesn't? Where scans not right and where?
Why do you guys always miss the point? I base this on the shockwave moment
[in the battle of gods we see an infamous shockwave that was getting stronger and stronger with distance, and it's true because on the Earth(near the point of impact) even humans were okay, but unknown planets in the mortal realm were destroyed. However the Afterlife and everything in it weren't even damaged, but we know that it's separeted from the mortal realm and exist outside of it. As it's already approved, the mortal realm is infinite in size. So even the shockwave that got atleast infinitely stronger couldn't do a thing in the Afterlife, giving Afterlife qualitive superiority over the dimensional living world. As the object that could damage Low 2-C universe couldn't multiply itself in order to net Afterlife, making Afterlife beyond Tychonoff cube as an object can't reach this world by miltipling and vica verse Afterlife can't be reduced to 0-dimensional object.]
No, I came to it by myself
I know...but in fiction it usually represent 2-d object in diagramsI knew I said I was gonna end the debate. But this is too funny
Dude, a piece of paper isn't 2-D![]()
"A piece if paper is usually used to represent a 2-D object. So obviously this hexahedron where you can clearly see its 3 dimensions and is nowhere near flat represents a 2-D object!"I know...but in fiction it usually represent 2-d object in diagrams
I asked how it should look otherwise and got no answerBro what you have been doing is arguing endlessly here despite other's calling out problems for 1-A, I don't think discussion works like that.
Since time M3X was pierced by arrow, he gained stand by name Silver Chariot. He summons him to fight in CRTs he starts
Stop putting words in my mouth. By "measurable" I meant quantitative.3-A DB at max let's go! Btw it was stated in Daizenshu that power levels can't be measured after Frieza arc
Why do you guys always miss the point? I base this on the shockwave moment
[in the battle of gods we see an infamous shockwave that was getting stronger and stronger with distance, and it's true because on the Earth(near the point of impact) even humans were okay, but unknown planets in the mortal realm were destroyed. However the Afterlife and everything in it weren't even damaged, but we know that it's separeted from the mortal realm and exist outside of it.
This is not an indication of qualitative superiority. This is at absolute best an indication of higher dimensional superiority.As it's already approved, the mortal realm is infinite in size. So even the shockwave that got atleast infinitely stronger couldn't do a thing in the Afterlife, giving Afterlife qualitive superiority over the dimensional living world.
You. Do. NOT. Need. 1-A. To. Survive. Shockwaves.
Is it...then what?This is not an indication of qualitative superiority. This is at absolute best an indication of higher dimensional superiority.
I don't understand what you're asking.Is it...then what?
The shockwave reach Afterlife, but it did nothing to it and beings there. It travelled though the mortal world, which I assume is infinite and there is a statement that the far it gets the stronger it becomes, so it becomes infinitly stronger after travelling an infinite distance.You. Do. NOT. Need. 1-A. To. Survive. Shockwaves.
So your entire argument is literally wrong. This either means Shockwaves didn't reach afterlife (You are unintentionally or intentionally downgrading BoG feat) or simply afterlife is very durable but still same tier.
Shockwaves also didn't got infinitely stronger, you are not proving anything remotely close to that.
I mean, then what should qualify for Afterlife to have qualitive superiority?I don't understand what you're asking.
So shockwaves simply have not enough range.The shockwave reach Afterlife, but it did nothing to it and beings there. It travelled though the mortal world, which I assume is infinite and there is a statement that the far it gets the stronger it becomes, so it becomes infinitly stronger after travelling an infinite distance.
There's no singular right way to qualify. I'd recommend you read the verse pages and cosmology blogs of verses that are currently accepted as 1-A and above (World of Darkness, Cthulhu Mythos, Marvel & DC Comics, etc.)I mean, then what should qualify for Afterlife to have qualitive superiority?
Yeah, 1-A cannot be reached through any amount of quantitative, even uncountably infinite, multipliers whatsoever as 1-A represents a state of existence fundamentally greater than and different from all possible physical measurement entirely.Either way, this is not 1-A. Shockwaves can get infinitely stronger and this means nothing, infinite power difference doesn't make you reach from Low 2-C to 1-A. It's not even 2-A without further context.
I don’t think that qualifies for qualitative superiority. That requires the after life viewing the mortal world as completely nonexistent and fictional. Maybe you could argue it has a higher dimensional durability but probably not a R>F difference.Why it doesn't? Where scans not right and where?
Why do you guys always miss the point? I base this on the shockwave moment
[in the battle of gods we see an infamous shockwave that was getting stronger and stronger with distance, and it's true because on the Earth(near the point of impact) even humans were okay, but unknown planets in the mortal realm were destroyed. However the Afterlife and everything in it weren't even damaged, but we know that it's separeted from the mortal realm and exist outside of it. As it's already approved, the mortal realm is infinite in size. So even the shockwave that got atleast infinitely stronger couldn't do a thing in the Afterlife, giving Afterlife qualitive superiority over the dimensional living world. As the object that could damage Low 2-C universe couldn't multiply itself in order to net Afterlife, making Afterlife beyond Tychonoff cube as an object can't reach this world by miltipling and vica verse Afterlife can't be reduced to 0-dimensional object.]
No, I came to it by myself
Dragon Ball isn't 1-AYou. Do. NOT. Need. 1-A. To. Survive. Shockwaves.
So your entire argument is literally wrong. This either means Shockwaves didn't reach afterlife (You are unintentionally or intentionally downgrading BoG feat) or simply afterlife is very durable but still same tier.
Shockwaves also didn't got infinitely stronger, you are not proving anything remotely close to that.
Outer construct being physically above, contained by the timeline and free to access to anyone with teleportation? Hell yeah I agree. Keep cooking my king.Those are more add on statements, when the main thing is shockwave moment. Also the first one talks about the scale, not just the separation, and the second one depends on the person's interpretation as the translator said
["Transcends dimensions" in original 次元を超越した天の国 can be interpreted by many ways: Word 次元 can mean "dimensionality" in mathematical way, or dimension( length, width, height). But it has third meaning: "point of view", "perspective". 次元を超越した天の国 - "transcends point of view", if literally. Probably, it means it's a place that is impossible to see/understand from human world. But why is unclear. Either it's something with dimensionality or it just can't be perceived cuz it's beyond human comprehension"]
No increase can bridge a 1-A gap.
Hulk is empowered by a High 1-A entity which is how he gets around this.
Guys, god ki is 1-AHulk is empowered by a High 1-A entity which is how he gets around this.
I don't wish to dogpile on you, but I would recommend reading the 'Are there any disqualifiers for qualitative superiority?' section on the Tiering System FAQ which explains why this wouldn't qualify for 1-A[in the battle of gods we see an infamous shockwave that was getting stronger and stronger with distance, and it's true because on the Earth(near the point of impact) even humans were okay, but unknown planets in the mortal realm were destroyed. However the Afterlife and everything in it weren't even damaged, but we know that it's separeted from the mortal realm and exist outside of it. As it's already approved, the mortal realm is infinite in size. So even the shockwave that got atleast infinitely stronger couldn't do a thing in the Afterlife, giving Afterlife qualitive superiority over the dimensional living world. As the object that could damage Low 2-C universe couldn't multiply itself in order to net Afterlife, making Afterlife beyond Tychonoff cube as an object can't reach this world by miltipling and vica verse Afterlife can't be reduced to 0-dimensional object.]
Next comes 9-B, 5-B via charged attacks. Be preparedIt passed
DB LS is more funny than It was before.
Nah that's wank, It should be Island level, Goku can't blow up a planetNext comes 9-B, 5-B via charged attacks. Be prepared
anyone?Question: do we have a scaling chain for 6 universes 2-C?
If so, does it start in the gods of destruction?
Nah that's wank, It should be Island level, Goku can't blow up a planet![]()
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Should be Here but some of the stuff may be outdatedanyone?