Android 18 longevity

[Darkinx]

Why does she have longevity in her profile and not type-1 immortality? She doesn't age at all.

 

[Antoniofer]

I think it was stated that they do age, just slowly.

 

[Darkinx]

I think it was stated that they do age, just slowly.

Where?

 

[Dark649]

I don't remember about that, but Super 17 has Type 1 Immortality while the other androids have longevity or nothing.

I think we should set longevity or immortality for all the other androids and the arcosians, gods, angels, kais, cyborgs, lifeforms, dragons and beings like Janemba, Zangya, Bojack, Hirudegarn, Baby and Zen'o.

 

[Darkinx]

I don't remember about that, but Super 17 has Type 1 Immortality while the other androids have longevity or nothing.
I think we should set longevity or immortality for all the other androids and the arcosians, gods, angels, kais, dragons and beings like Bojack, Hirudegarn, Baby and Zen'o.

So you can confirm 18 is actually immortal and not just long-lived?

 

[Dark649]

No. 18 is not immortal as she can't last forever.

 

[Darkinx]

No. 18 is not immortal as she can't last forever.

The manga contradicts you though

 

[Dark649]

If you bring me the statements, i will tell this about the other users.

 

[Darkinx]

Ok, although in the manga Vegeta, Gero and Chichi state that 17 and 18 are "eternally youthful" and can't die, Toriyama contradicts himself in this interview: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/db-full-color-artificial-humans-cell-arc-06/

So, longevity is fine.

 

[Antvasima]

Type 1 immortality means that you do not age or wear down at all even after trillions of years. Extremely few characters should have the ability. However, regrettably lots of our profiles list it instead of longevity.

 

[Darkinx]

Type 1 immortality meams that you do not age or wear down at all even after trillions of years. Extremely few characters should have the ability. However, regrettably lots of our profiles list it instead of longevity.

I know! If toriyama hadn't stated what he stated in that interview, 18 should have had type 1 immortality though

 

[Fankid]

in page 77 they specifically state that she has eternal life, which qualifies her for immortality type 1 Read manga Dragon Ball Chapter 349 online in high quality, also, before anyone tries to pull the headcanon that they still age, there is no signs of age on any of them.

toriyama has been noted as a very forgetful person, so he could have forgot this.

 

[SITHISIT]

but can they die of natural causes such as diseases/etc.?


if that's so then its just longevity if they can still die to disease/etc.

 

[Fankid]

that's headcanon, they never displayed the ability not to, but at the same time they have not, so thereby they have not displayed it, as such they cannot be immortal for now, goodbye.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I suppose that they could get immortality type 1 then.

 

[Fankid]

nah, they never displayed immunity to illness, but they have not displayed the ability to die from it either. so not yet. this can be closed really, unless you want to keep it open for the future.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that type 1 usually simply means that a character does not age at all.

 

[Fankid]

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immortality type 1

"characters gifted with this type of immortality cannot die from natural causes, such as old age or convential illnesses, but can die from old age"

 

[AKM sama]

"Since they're human-based, of course they can become even stronger if they train.

In the case of modified-human types like No. 17 and No. 18, since they're human-based they can become stronger if they train. By the way, though they don't need to eat, they do need to hydrate. Also, their cells deteriorate slowly, so they age slowly too."

-Akira Toriyama

I think longevity is the safest option here. I am fine with whatever is decided though.

 

[Dark649]

I agree with Longevity.

 

[Antvasima]

Longevity it is then.

 

[Yui_KotegawaTLR]

17,18 Longevity 250 - 300 years

 

[Crzer07]

to not be affected by disease would require you to be in an artificial substrate, which means only robots. If you can repaire your telomeres an indefinite number of times and clean the "junk" in your cells you would be biologically immortal. Though not sure if Type 1 covers the BI and there are real life organisms that stop aging at a certain point

 

[Antvasima]

Well, since we seem to have decided to keep longevity intead of immortality, should we close this thread?

 

[Dark649]

Yes.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.