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thats base sonic lmao
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Archie Sonic vs Wally West
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He was talking about Wally
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@sanicspood Super Sonic blitzed the Wily-Egg Machine iirc. Either way, he can blitz Solaris just like his Game counterpart can. That's even how he damages Solaris to begin with, by dashing to it's core faster than it can react to and block.
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he needs to dash to blitz?
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Sonic is still faster, the dude disagreed on sonic being faster than it.
was talking about wally
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as I said, I answered the ''CRT first'' thing.
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No siree, that's just his speed. Super Sonic is always treated as exceptionally above his peers in speed. The only exceptions are Super Knuckles (who is tanky enough to make up for it) and Super Shadow (who is his equal). Hell, he's even above weakened Chaos Force beings like his time brawling Enerjak.
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the CRT is him being faster than sonic, i never said he isn't baseline. just said it needs CRT for being faster than Sonic, also now I reread it, I hadn't even noticed that it said "faster"
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No, u said ''CRT first'' to the dude that said that Wally was faster than Speed Force
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the dude said disagree with Sonic being faster than wally, that's the part that i cared, i didn't even see the other part
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alright
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What is even being argued at the moment? Miscellaneous?
Who is naturally faster?
Who is naturally faster?
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why it can't be added, and then the derail came
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U said ''CRT first'' to an entire text, how do I should know what you was caring about?
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ok it's my fault
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Regarding who’d be faster without the speed equalization:
Wally is MFTL+ normally, but his profile says he can be Immeasurable w/ the Speed Force or if he becomes enraged. In the latter case he can run faster than the Speed Force itself. Idk the specifics of that but I think it’s safe to say Wally is beyond baseline Immeasurable.
Wally is MFTL+ normally, but his profile says he can be Immeasurable w/ the Speed Force or if he becomes enraged. In the latter case he can run faster than the Speed Force itself. Idk the specifics of that but I think it’s safe to say Wally is beyond baseline Immeasurable.
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cool but the point of discussion is that sonic is likely still faster
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This is absurd....my vote is one wally on who is faster.
Plus am voting wally based on speed steal and blitze .
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Would still love to see the details presented, rather than basing it off of Assumption.
I know when I go in the debates for a Sonic, I like to lay out the details instead of going “Yeah, I assume Sonic is this fast or this strong”
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the point isn't who is faster, the point is who is faster so we can see if the willy victory can be added or not
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does even matter whos faster wally can just speed steal
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Why is that?
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Because of Sonic starts out faster, he has an advantage of likely using his Hax to attack before Wally
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And if Sonic's faster than the speed stealing means this can't be added.
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see my message above, specifically the 103
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if it's stomp, then it can't
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For me, I don’t see any good reason for why Wally would be faster, based on the info currently provided
Sonic has non-Speed Steal scaling
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It's stated speed is equal on the OP but I believe wally is faster still without equalizing speed.
Wally is faster besides,speed steal earns the victory for wally then he blitzes.
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I don’t accept assumptions
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my bad, i meant isn't*. Wally isn't faster without speed equalizzed
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Why?
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Why would Flash be faster? We’ve offered scaling for Sonic.
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due to a specific rule, it makes so that if a characthers with speed bost win against a naturally faster characther in speed equalizzed, it wouldn't be added. Sonic is naturally faster.
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Because Archie Sonic has outright blitzed Immeasurable characters while Wally is vaguely above baseline. Direct Feats > Vague Statements any day.
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Can I see the rule.
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So has Wally?
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